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I can only speak for the school district I went to and the one my children are currently in, but they both offered/offer a myriad of vocational courses. I literally had my cars radiator fixed back in 1996 by my classmates that were taking automotive classes my senior year of HS.

My nephew currently spends half the school day at the local Boces learning carpentry work.

Im guessing the people that keep saying these Why doesnt high schools teach real life things? dont really look into the classes high schools are actually offering.

I've always felt that everyone should be passionate about one thing that has absolutely no real bearing on the world.

Whether it's collecting something, watching Star Wars, playing baseball, going to plays, building Lego sets, etc.

Otherwise your world is just either your school or your job. You end up taking life way too serious, and no one really enjoys hanging around people that are serious all the time.

For me it would all hinge on role and responsibility.

I havent been put under for surgery since I was in Kindergarten and had hernia surgery, so I dont remember the experience at all, but Ill be put under next Monday for my colonoscopy.

I have no reason to fear it though.

Ok.

Unless they tried to slip some BS into the bill, I REALLY need someone to explain to me why you would vote against this.

DnDer posted...

About that...

Like I said, I can only go by what I know about my state.

Although New York state law does not require teaching credentials for parents providing home instruction, the key requirements to follow include:

1. File a notice of intent to homeschool within 14 days of beginning, and every year thereafter.
2. Provide an Individualized Home Instruction plan to the District Superintendent.
3. Note the subjects required to be taught at specific grade levels.
4. Maintain attendance records.
5. Complete 900 hours of school instruction per year in grades 1-6, and 990 hours for grades 7-12.
6. Submit your quarterly informational reports to the District Superintendent.
7. Submit an annual assessment with your final quarterly report, which includes a norm-referenced achievement test or written evaluation, depending on grade level.

NYS has very specific requirements to homeschool your child in the state. The regulations listed here are a summary to help parents get started. Check out the NY Department of Educations website for the latest information on staying compliant.

Tom_Joad posted...

Which is why Gen-Xers are less affected, as they're cynical as fuck.

We don't respond to emails or phone calls from people we DO know, forget about people we don't.

Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

It helps that no one under 40 answers their phone

That was my point.

The difference is more the fact that Gen Z is online almost 100% of the time they're awake, whereas the average boomer maybe has one email and a FB account that they check 2-3 times a day, if at all.

It's more about opportunity than anything else.

Tenlaar posted...

No it wouldnt, it would still be nothing and a stupid thing to try to moralize over if a Democrat did it.

Doesn't stop them from doing it.

Hannity did a 10 minute segment on how much a disgrace that Fetterman guy is becasue he wears sneakers on the Senate floor. So much so he spun it into a "Sneakers are made in China. Any chance he doing this as a paid advertisement for the Chinese Government?"

From TheHill.com:

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) called the new dress code disgraceful, while conservative commentator Monica Crowley called Fetterman a revolting slob.

Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.) accused Democrats of trying to transform America, to take us to a place that is much less respectful than we historically have been.

And this was over a pair of SNEAKERS.

Raikuro posted...

Just sounds like younger people just have more opportunities to get hacked across multiple profiles while a boomer would just have one email and maybe one social media account.

That's basically it.

majin_nemesis posted...

and you should be charged with child abuse for not allowing your child to learn
and the country should have an universal curriculum so you have no choice but to teach the child what the child should learn, there's stuff that kids should learn regardless of the parents feelings like math,science, biology which means things like sex too, language, history and culture, you shouldn't be able to deny your child from learning all of that just because you are bias against knowledge
your kid isn't your property or a continuation of you,they are their own person and need to learn things that will help them as they grow up and become adults

I wasn't saying to not have your child learn at all, I just meant going to a particular school.

Even home-schooling has a state approved set of guidelines and regulations that the parent/guardian must adhere to (at least that's the case in NY). Which includes submitting the child's work and test for approval by the Department of Education.

But yes, if I parent pulls a child from a school and decided then to teach them NOTHING that is approve by the Board of Ed, then it 100% should be considered abuse.

And I'm all for a base level Universal curriculum on a National level, regardless of the school being public, private, or home school.

Travis.

But OK. Good for him.

Ok.

Now do the same study on phone scams.

FortuneCookie posted...

Creative has 90 days to brainstorm what to do with these potential acquisitions.

My guess is bring them in, hype them up like its a huge deal, then throw them in a midcard faction

DKBananaSlamma posted...

I was hoping to lose 7 more lbs so I could fuck mad Asian chicks when I get to Japan. But I still lost 35+ lbs overall and I'm sub 180 lbs,

Do Asian women only sleep with men that we less than 175 pounds?

Like, do they keep a scale next to the bed?

MarcyWarcy posted...

the monoculture is mostly dead and cable tv took one of the heaviest blows in that regard. if anything the viewership wwe and aew get despite that is more remarkable than anything. wrestling is pretty cold at the moment, but it's still a reason people keep at least a remnant of their cable packages

Funny thing is, while it doesn't have the mainstream appeal it had on the late 90's/early 2000's, or that it had in the 80's, it's (especially WWE) actually the hottest it's been in a while, when you look at live attendance numbers.

Hayame_Zero posted...

There was a show in the early 80s called Manimal about a guy who can turn into animals and solves crimes. It was canceled after one season and was a late night talk show punchline for reaching an astonishingly low Nielsen rating of 10.1.

The current highest rated scripted show in 2023 is NCIS, which is frequently below a 10.0.

So yeah, they're mostly irrelevant to compare now, not just with wrestling.

You don't even have to go that far back.

The Finale of Season 1 of Survivor (Aug. 2000) had 51.69 Million viewers.

The Finale of the most recent season (May 2023) had 4.41 Million viewers.

People just aren't watching TV as it airs unless it's sports.

I've been told that my teeth and smile are my best feature.

Don't know what the says about the rest of me.

Cemith posted...

Oh I quoted the wrong post lmao. My b. Supposed to be #327

CE on mobile really do be like that

Oh Ok. I got really confused.

Cemith posted...

You really just irrefutably dense.

Please do not reproduce.

I'm dense?

How so?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if it is the wrong opinion.

However, that opinion should have no influence on something they have zero control over.

Like the example in this thread. A parent can have the opinion that Anne Frank is inappropriate subject matter for their child. But that opinion should have zero bearing on whether or not it's still part of the curriculum.

When you eat more calories than you burn, you gain weight.

The End.

I love how this guy wearing a hoodie was a "disgrace", but Blowbert giving her client, ahem, her boyfriend, a handy in public was "no big deal".

Gobstoppers12 posted...

When it relates to your own child, yes you should have a very large say in it. Some of you guys really hate parents and I find that saddening more than anything.

We covered this already.

As a parent, you're allowed to have your opinion on how the school should be run/what the curriculum should be.

But unless you're a school administrator, you have no say on how the school is run/what the curriculum is.

You 100% have the choice of pulling your child out of the school if you feel you do not agree with the curriculum.

TonyKojima posted...

WWE has worse ratings than the WCW ever had at its lowest point.

That doesn't mean much, because networks are paying more for the rights than they ever had.

It's been discussed ad-nauseum, ratings all over the place are lower than they were 20-25 years ago.

There are very few shows that have Raw's longevity, but you can compare it to shows like Survivor or The Simpsons that have been on as long, and they are also pulling in a fraction of the ratings they were pulling in 15-20 years ago.

cjsdowg posted...

The Hurt Business was hot.

Not necessarily because of him though.

As long as it had MVP and Lashley, the other two could've been anybody.

Sariana21 posted...

Parents worst nightmare. My daughter is in HS marching band, and they take busses to competitions. So scary.

I think about it anytime my daughter takes a bus to an away football game for cheerleading.

Priere posted...

They let Shelton go?

Fucking why? Dude is so damn talented.

He fell victim to the worst possible thing you can be in WWE.

A really good wrestler with little to no personality.

Very few wrestlers break through in WWE when their gimmick is only "I wrestle really well".

Starks posted...

Tragic. Basically everyone on the bus is injured.

Despite its name, Farmingdale is the corporate heart of the island.

I didn't know band camp during the school year was a thing.

Yeah. Not a lot of news is coming out as to why the entire Freshman class were heading to the camp. But 6 buses carrying 300+ kids and teachers and chaperones.

Slight. Correction

The buses were carrying the ENTIRE School's freshman class. They were heading to Pennsylvania for some sort of band camp.

There were 6 buses overall. 5 are heading back to Long Island.

This was the High School I went to, and some friends still live in that district.

https://abc7ny.com/bus-crash-orange-county-wawayanda-i84/13810016/

The bus was carrying students from Farmingdale High School in Nassau County when it overturned on I-84. They were headed to band camp in Greeley, Pennsylvania.

The crash happened westbound on I-84 in Wawayanda at 1:20 p.m.

Westbound lanes are closed at exit 15 for the investigation. New York State Police said the highway was expected to be closed for several hours.

The person killed in the crash is believed to be an adult. The five passengers who were critically injured are all believed to be juveniles.

Avirosb posted...

You shouldn't have children because of climate change and the rising sea level. And constant school shootings.
Y'know, ethical reasons. People also like to claim the US "shut down" but if they did they sure made a piss job of it.

Choices, man.

So humanity should just cease to exist becasue you have a 1% of 1% of 1% chance you might get shot going to school.

Good Lord dude.

Avirosb posted...

If you're gonna combine essential work with being a parent, well, that is a choice people make.

Are you basically saying that if you're a Doctor, Nurse, Firefighter, etc you shouldn't have children for fear of a pandemic that might shut down your city?

That's definitely a take.

bigtiggie23 posted...

They can always fit them into another tournament.

And then everyone in the tournament will become a stable.

FortuneCookie posted...

AEW doing a hiring fair tomorrow.

They need the 90 days, but AEW in the new year should be fun for that first month when the all show up and then the promptly can't figure out what to do with all of them.

A_Good_Boy posted...

That did happen. Idiot parents were crying across the country because of common core math curriculum. You don't see those stories quite as often anymore because those people have moved on to crying about LGBTQ and black history in schools, but they absolutely are crying about math too.

In their defense, the actual teachers can't stand common core math either, but not because it was "woke" but simply becasue it took a very simple process and made it as complicated as possible.

And as someone who had children in elementary school which the change was being made, along with a Brother-In-Law and best friend who were teachers during the change, none of the complaints were because "Math went Woke", it was because it took a very simple concept like "carry the 1" in an addition equation and made it as convoluted as possible (round up the the nearest tenth, add, then subtract from the original number)

No.

I'm also a 45 year old man.

My kids (15 and 17) however, wear them all the time.

I can't leave the house without being properly dressed. Only time I ever do is in an emergency, like my kid missed the bus and I have to drop them off and I haven't showered yet.

Mysterio400 posted...

WTF! He was Ezekiel this whole time!?

I read that and I was like Wait? Elias was Zeke all along? KO WAS RIGHT!!!

She has the show off your butt for IG pose down to a science.

DnDer posted...

Every red state that's outlawing any kind of gender affirming care, which are also the same states trying to ban any reference to LGBT people's existence in school (and public) libraries.

Those parents don't have rights in those states. Up to the point of Florida literally allowing themselves to kidnap your child if you come to Florida with a trans kid.

I mean in this topic.

Youre yelling at people who agree with you.

AnsestralRecall posted...

Hey @ everyone going on about parents rights...

What about the rights of parents to be caring and affirming with their trans children? Or wait ... that's not what you mean? Hmmmmmmm....

Who's saying they shouldnt?

All anyone is saying is they have their right to their opinion, even if its wrong.

The discussion was whether or not the opinion of a select few should be a big enough influence to change a schools entire curriculum. Which everyone seem to agree that it shouldnt.

BeantownHero posted...

Its almost as if crafting curriculum around every random John Q. baby maker's opinion is dumb.as fuck and extremely counterproductive.

Just home school them, but that might actually require those who feel their just as qualified as teachers to put in the work...much easier to just scream at administrators to have YOUR values validated

I said it above, there's a difference between expressing your concerns and trying to change the curriculum.

And schools recognize that. Both of my kids are now HS age, and at least 2-3 times a year we will get an email or a letter home letting us know that they will be coving a book or text with what is considered "sensitive" material. They let us know what it is, and makes the material available for us to review. I know for a fact one of them was when they read Anne Frank in 8th grade, and just last year we got a letter home when my son was about to begin reading "of Mice and Men" becasue it deals with basically (spoiler) a murder a the end of the story.

I know every school district is different, but mine gave us the option of a "alternate lesson plan" if we deemed the material inappropriate. Whereas some may just throw this information at the kids with no warning to the parents.

And I could see how a story like of Mice and Men, and how it ends could trigger (no pun) some children, depending on their home life.

Schools work best when the school and the parents can work in unison

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Not that I agree with this counter-argument, AT ALL, but the counter-argument could easily be "They are both theories, why can't both be taught?"

But I agree with you in the sense that the school puts educators in place that will put a curriculum together that they feel will best suit all of the students. It is then up to the parents to decide if that curriculum is good for their child. They then have the choice to send their child to that school or send them to a different school/home school.

They shouldn't have the decision to change the curriculum. That is something they are simply not qualified for.

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Only thing I'll defend is that the parents have their right to express their opinion.

Even if their opinion is wrong.

Should their opinion mold how the school builds their curriculum? Probably not. But unfortunately that's not the world we live in right now.

darkace77450 posted...

If this teacher's claims are documented, then the inevitable wrongful termination lawsuits seems like a slam dunk to my layman's eyes.

That's what I was trying to say at the beginning of this topic, that the issue here whether or not the teacher used a version of the text (regardless of what the book was) that was not approved by the school, not that the text that was used was inappropriate.

If it wasn't approved, then yes, they should have been disciplined. If it was approved, then the school is obviously in the wrong.

But, naturally, I was flagged as a troll because no one was understanding that point, and assumed becasue I slightly sided with the school, I was obviously a horrible person.

VRX3000 posted...

why would fbi even raid in the first place? I mean, even if people suspect rigging a football game, does that really need the fbi?

I dont think thats what theyre looking for if the rumors online are true.

He was in some shit. Shit of the under age variety.

El_Marsh posted...

I heard about the Williams resignation but don't know what to make of it outside of "something" happened, since coordinators don't typically resign after two games in a season. They've been fired that quickly but voluntary resignation is not normal, so it raises a few questions..

Combine it with the fact the the FBI raided his house and have obtained a warrant to search his office at the Bears facility, it leads me to believe this is more than just the "I need to step away to focus on my family and my health" reasoning he gave in his statement.

Calwings posted...

I don't know if it depends on where you live, where you get them, or something else, but they were always free for me. I never paid a dime for the original vaccine or any of the boosters since.

I haven't either, but I usually go to urgent care where they offer them for free.

I'm not sure if the local pharmacies do them for free. I just happen to be there picking up a prescription and asked about the,

Tom_Joad posted...

8th grade *IS* high school...

Depends on the district.

In some NY Districts, becasue of the size of each grade, HS doesn't start until 10th Grade.

KI_Simpson posted...

Even if we pretend this is only about sex, banning children at an age where sexual desires are awakening from knowing that other people go through that awakening is still harmful and stupid.

I think it may be one of those situations where some parents may have an issue with which class it's presented in.

Health class, at that age, it's pretty much understood that SexEd will eventually be a topic.

History Class may catch more people by surprise.

But it's also Texas, so they may have an issue with it being taught in Health Class as well.

Murphiroth posted...

"Wasn't defending it, so I'll spend multiple posts defending it!"

Y'all are always so transparent with this sealioning shit.

I wasn't. I was ONLY defending the school's decision to not allow a version that wasn't pre-approved.

But reading further into it, there seems to be a disagreement on whether or not that version was approved or not. Teacher has gotten an attorney and is fighting that is was.

If it was approved, than I hope she sues the district for every dollar they have.

District officials claim the adaptation of Anne Frank's Diary has never been approved, yet it was on a reading list sent to parents at the start of the school year. So while the district is implying the teacher went rogue, parents believe someone higher than her knew about the book being part of the class.

That's why they want the investigation to continue.

Following the district's decision to release the teacher, a source close to her contacted Angel San Juan to tell him the principal of Hamshire-Fannett Middle School had approved the syllabus with that version of the book in it. That source also tells us the teacher has an attorney. We tried to speak to the principal, Cynthia Jackson, Ed.D, to see if she did approve the book's inclusion in the curriculum. She referred us to the superintendent, who has only issued the statement about the teacher's dismissal.