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EDumey posted...

Corrik did you roleblock FD N1/D2?

I was waiting to let you reveal at your own discretion. But you'll remember the other thing I saw on FD. He was roleblocked at the start of D2.

None of our three claimed roleblocks have claimed that yet, meaning it was likely a scum action. Because of the timing, scum either has a N1 ability that role blocks town, but o ly starting the following day. Or they have a D2 ability, that they were able to use at the start of day to make sure FD didn't get any day actions off.

You keep saying there's no reason that scum would have visited FD twice with the poison, but it seems to me that they poisoned AND roleblocked him. Why would they poison and roleblock the same person instead of spreading out their actions unless they thought maybe FD had something worth killing?

Here's my BIG BRAIN (read: tin foil and 95% chance of being wrong) theory. We have had confirmations every day about day actions. But no claimed day actions. What if scum day scanned FD, and knew he was a big threat and put ALL those resources into discretely getting rid of him? The only way for that to work would be for Ashe to be a Ninja day scanner, which is only one step away from what he actually claimed.

But that's just me trying to figure out why the hell they would poison and roleblock FD. Please tell me you're the one responsible for his roleblock and I can take my crazy pills.

I did not visit FD night 1.

htaeD posted...

Well he may have just wanted to make up a target whose scan would reveal nothing to us.
Actually I need to check something first.

I may have turned my shit purple and now it smells like rainbow sherbert too.

I mean, he literally could have just said he was straight vanilla and had no powers than a ninja, give a target, who happens to have been poisoned, who didn't flip due to a box, and who would just conveniently corroborate his story later.

You got like 6 steps to this being scum here. And 1 to being town.

I'm not voting Ashe. Screams town and it's telling that the openly claimed survivor wants to vote Ashe instead of connect the dots here on why he is probably town.

Brohan had my good will at the beginning of the game but he has slowly eroded that to nothing. No idea how he is skating by.

htaeD posted...

I get the part about him claiming ninja, since thats just weird to do if you are actually a scum ninja.

But we have no proof that Ashe actually went to FD night1 other than Ashe's word.

So you are saying Ashe as scum went to someone else but just for giggles lied and said he went to the poisoned person? What's the point? Did he know someone was gonna get this scan on FD to confirm he was a ninja and then the other scum being on him would absolve him?

That's so convoluted. The easiest answer is usually the right answer.

htaeD posted...

Now this I dont follow.

He scanned actions on FD. FD was poisoned.

2 entire days prior Ashe said he is a ninja. Thus, Ashe's actions wouldn't show up on FD.

Him seeing a poison on FD means scum went to FD and that Ashe also went to FD as well. Ashe had zero reason to claim being a ninja day 1 as scum unless he just actually was ninja. He wouldn't claim something that could make him easier to catch in a lie. It's highly unlikely scum Ashe went to FD IN ADDITION to the poisoner. Thus, it is highly likely Ashe is town and the scan actually absolves Ashe of being scum and doesn't make him scum at all.

EDumey posted...

Call me crazy, but I kind of want to try letting Sultan's auto lynch ability resolve. >_>

I know it's ALWAYS the wrong decision to try and leash the indy, but it sounds fun. If Sultan isn't lying, then we put someone like Ashethan at -1, then vote a second person we think is scum to -1 and Sultan auto hammers. There should be no fear of a scum rush on the other player, and it gives us a tiny margin of error if we're wrong? Eh. No the only way that really works is if we're already confident about the first person. But if we were confident enough to vote them out anyway, then "risking" a scum rush on them isn't that much of a big deal anyway because we were already going to ML if we were wrong?

I am talking myself in circles. And the worst case scenario is scum Sultan gets us to put up a second person to -1 for an easy scum hammer either today or tomorrow. Probably safer to not get cute with it.

Kind if wish you had told us about this ability on a previous day though, before we feared MYLO. I think it would have been really fun to use this yesterday. Could have sold it as a one time town ability or something.

I don't think anyone is lynching Ashe today. Your scan kinda clears him.

I kinda wanna lynch brohan but then Sultan says hey look at me I'm survivor.

This game wtf is going on.

Sultan just threw up a flag to the scum team that he is survivor. Oh boy.

I could make compelling arguments for Ashe, Wallz, BCT, and Edumey being town.

I'm considering maybe its best to go off the beaten path here. = /

Wallz seemed genuinely to feel cool that he complemented me. Does he seem that way if he is scum. Hmmm.

Ashethan posted...

Yes. I mentioned both Mystic and Quiet, and said what they did when I claimed. You were the one who asked me to claim, so I'm surprised you don't remember. you told me 'claim or die'.

Aight then yeah it doesn't make much sense for you to claim ninja if you actually moved as scum.

EDumey posted...

Corrik did you say who you blocked N1?

No I did not.

htaeD posted...

He said he was ninja both nights

When he initially claimed?

Wait. Ashe is ninja with night 2 and not night 1?

Obellisk posted...

are we finally lynching wallz?

I been trying that since day 1

I'll give him a chance to claim first.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Okay then. I'll just get to the point.

I've already claimed, but in detail...
Odd nights I am Felix Richter, SOLO QUEUE "Quiet Eye Candy" (Vanilla Ninja)
Even nights I am Caleb Quinn, SOLO QUEUE "Inventor Marksman" (Roleblocker)

##vote: Wall

Let's kill the claimed scum, shall we?

And so we're clear: Yes, I blocked Dumey N2 (hence why I knew he took no action and why I said he would've known about it), and subsequently used that erroneous read of mine to confirm him town. (Keep in mind I replaced in)

In what way? He still lied more times than I'd think a town-aligned player would, and there hasn't been a huge push to lynch him, which makes me think scum either believes he's expendable... or there are only four of them.

Whoa...

Actually, I wanna strike that somewhat. Ashe could still be scum. Nothing clears him in totality. But, it does seem a bit unlikely that he had the forethought to multiple days in advance say he was ninja and doesn't show up anywhere and then get third hand corroborated as not showing up on someone who was targeted by scum days later. This requires Ashe not being Ninja. Claiming ninja day 1 and opening himself up as a liar for literally no reason.

Edumey thinking he had Ashe I think kinda solidifies him as town as I don't think he would sell out as scum here. And what a backfire fail that woulda been too.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Right, I guess I didn't think that through, my bad.

And so it's #1, got it. I can feel good about you being town, Corrik. Can you feel good about me being town?

I haven't really said you were scum but somebody has to be. It's not looking like it's Ashe anymore either. This makes me wonder if I was wrong to so blindly buy in like Ben did on sbell and igcd. I need to probably go back to the drawing board and start from scratch. Nobody is free of suspicion. Something isn't adding up here.

3. If I am scum with Ashe and my teammate Ashe was roleblocked, I would have to know Town roleblocked him. Thus, Town would claim the roleblock on Ashe and then want to know how the fuck I know that he was.

That makes literally zero sense BCT. Nor has anyone claimed responsibility for the roleblock otherwise. So it's revisionist.

2. If I am scum roleblocker, then Ashe is town. Again we can't be scum together. But, why did I help him out corroborating what happened and not just stay silent and push him instead? Not too likely.

1. This is speculation.

4. I haven't outted completely that is correct. But, if I had seen a scum roleblocker in action, I doubt I would be holding onto the info instead of you know... killing them?

htaeD posted...

He said he didnt get his info until night3
He apparently targeted me night1 and nothing happened to me..
He targeted FD last night and got info on everything that happened to him.
Pretty strong power really. But again I dont think he can be lying about it.

If Ashe is ninja which he said from day 1 and had no reason to lie about. And a poison was seen on fd night 1. It means either scum went to fd twice in one night or Ashe is town.

Interesting. Hmmm.

wallmasterz posted...

Corrik I need to ask you something

On odd numbered nights do you have a trait that starts with the letter t

and if so without needing to go into more specifics than you want, can you tell me the name of that trait

Yes. Tormenting

wallmasterz posted...

You claimed to know Ashe was actually roleblocked two posts after Ashe said they were roleblocked, it means absolutely nothing about Ashes alignment and there could be any combo between the two of you but I strongly believe youre scum. This feels like a question meant to lead down a rabbit hole.

So you think i opened up all kinds of possibilities to be found out as lying before people spoke today to confirm Ashe was indeed roleblocked? I mean, you are jumping through major hoops to avoid logically coming to the conclusion that we both can't be scum together.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

So it makes me think dumey is town even more wouldn't someone on a scum team know Ashe claimed ninja day 1 and be like dude that's a terrible fake claim in that case?

I said, what if both are town. I'm not saying Ashe is town. I am saying I know he didn't do the nightkill last night. But I am saying if edumey is town who scanned what he thinks damns Ashe and Ashe is actually town because he wouldn't show up to the scan, then your it is edumey 1 for 1ing if Ashe is actually town is a wrong assumption.

wallmasterz posted...

Re-read the quoted post and I get it now.

As scum yes. But you know I cant get you lynched so it doesnt matter lol

So if I outted myself as scum. And I know Ashe was roleblocked. Then you think Ashe is town then?

Follow me through your logic.

wallmasterz posted...

If youre protection and say Im our protection then yes. But I doubt youd ever do that as protection since Ive seen you be the only one not to participate in your own mass claim. I think its a scum move.

I also said I know Ashe was roleblocked too.

Did I out myself.

wallmasterz posted...

How likely do you think this is since youve posted a minimum of three, and I believe it was actually four times, specifically to say Sultan is town. Which yes I find that weird.

I don't think Sultan is saying that as scum. I am saying it could be an error to assume what he is assuming.

wallmasterz posted...

Even if youre town I completely doubt you would just out yourself as protection. From what I have seen youre either the last one to claim in a mass claim or you let everyone else claim then you dont claim lol.

Did I out myself.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

##Vote:Ashe.

Scum if he isn't we kill dumey and have 0 mislynches left. I mean would Scum go 1 for 1 on this I highly doubt it. They have pretty much 0 reason to

The problem with edumeys claim is that it wouldn't have seen a ninja and Ashe claimed a ninja on day 1 I think.

It's possible both could be town here and your justification is actually a game sealing set of mislynches.

I think it's time to massclaim.

I don't think a ninja would show up to edumey btw. That seems completely nonsensical.

The fact we haven't lost yet at mylo with the votes on me is interesting. Possible 4 scum with a 3rd party still.

Wallz is scum. But unless igcd is scum also, then there isn't 5 scum. Or we already would have lost. Unless they are wary of some day power or something to nullify their rush.

Or they just haven't lined the rush up yet.

Chang was probably just killed because they are searching for power.

EDumey posted...

100% Town
Dumey

90% Town
BCT

75% Town
Sultan
Red
Death

60% Town
Corrik

POE-Ville
IGCD
SBell
Brohan
Wallz

99.5% Scum
Ashethan

This revision is mostly assuming my catch on Ashethan is accurate and correct. If so, I think Death earned himself a lot of Town cred with me yesterday.

Wallz is probably scum, btw. Avoidant of his scum buddies is probably going to be the major catch for him here. Not someone we can lynch today I think, but if we start lynching scum now, and whoever is looking back sees that Wallz never pushed any of the confirmed scum, get him on that.

I still believe in my initial D1 votals analysis, that I think one of the last four votes on Ulti was scum. Well FD and Crescent/Chang are flipped town now. So that leaves at least one of Brohan/IGCD, who are both conveniently just sitting in PoE range because theyve done nothing else to separate themselves.

Red and Corrik, if the both of you are Town like I think you are, I need you to go into solving mode and carry my ass.

I hear ya but there is a lot going on this game that makes things difficult. Like let's say i knew JCs role and alignment before he flipped, nothing he did with it makes any sense. Like why would he ever kill? I don't get it.

For the record, Ashe was actually roleblocked last night.

Trust me... I would know... lol.

Also, Edumey, I was on Ashe day 1 as well.

JC not being 3p is literally just insane.

wallmasterz posted...

Corrik, based on the two latest flips, has your Poe changed at all and if so, how?

The end of the day was a tad weird. If Ben and me are wrong about IGCD and Sbell that could have messed a lot up.

Igcds votes were weird, but he tends to do chaos regardless of alignment.

Also. Mafia isn't gonna sell out before mylo on a lynch. Your argument is dumb. I said board 8 is dumb because if they specialed me they were specialing their protection out of nowhere to save the 3rd party. Woulda been apt.

wallmasterz posted...

Just ask yourself if you got 3 people voting you or planning to vote you in the span of two minutes who you thought were definitely not town or in one case 50/50 chance not town, would your kneejerk reaction be b8 sucks at mafia or would it be wow this feels coordinated af

I didn't even know the votals. I asked for them repeatedly.

I'm our protection though. So... lol.

Btw, JCs play after reading his flip is literally nonsensical.

Very opportunistic at mylo. Probably gonna lose the game to a rush if any of you are town.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Also, everybody will say "these polls are meaningless this far out"

Obviously. Let's go, Nikki!

HanOfTheNekos posted...

It's literally the guy who you are replying to

He seems like a swell guy.

LightningStrikes posted...

There is literally a topic for this where this very poll is discussed!

Oh. Is it someone with me on ignore or did I just miss it?

Obviously far out, but I saw someone lamenting that Trump is basically ahead of Biden in every swing state in polling right now. They are basically right, but you know who is really killing Biden in polling right now everywhere? Nikki! Too bad she can't win the nomination.

Sultans town

Kill JC. He is trying to prevent me stopping his win. Wallz is scum too.

Obellisk posted...

oh I don't like a corrik lunch

It's okay. Board 8 sucks at mafia. To be expected lol

Chaeix posted...

##unvote
##vote: corrik

claim? i can move to brohan if people don't move to corrik

Nope.

5 minutes to go. Choo choo

Chaeix posted...

You guys cant even agree if Im scum or Indy.

Doesn't matter. And this is the second time you like tongue in cheeked you are 3p now.