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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 8: Attention Boardaytan Workers!
wallmasterz
03/13/23 6:40:23 AM
#86
Chaeix posted...
And wallz I've been doing some thinking about this - ctes coming in D1 and claiming vig right away doesn't really make sense if he's scum? What if town actually has a killing role and he gets countered immediately? There's tremendous risk to making that claim.

I do agree with you that the spectre of Chris is worth worrying about though. Not at all lost on me.

ive become a red shirt due to all the wine being placed in front of me

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 8: Attention Boardaytan Workers!
wallmasterz
03/13/23 6:37:43 AM
#85
##Note: To be clear, 8.071 is a quote by ctes from d1 and I did not intend to vote for sultan. Yes its obvious if youre reading but adding this in case someone skims looking for votals or doesnt read well enough.


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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 8: Attention Boardaytan Workers!
wallmasterz
03/13/23 6:31:58 AM
#84
##unvote

jeez I accidentally voted for sultan. Sorry I was quoting ctes

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 8: Attention Boardaytan Workers!
wallmasterz
03/13/23 12:14:22 AM
#71
This is ctes 4.008

I'm still not completely caught up, or have at least only skimmed parts of the latter half of topic 3, but I want this vote on record

##vote: Sultan

For someone that is generally viewed as easy to read town, Sultan just haven't looked good. Most reads have been off, and I've felt that he has been trying to argue his that his opinions are right after having decided on the opinion.

Is it just me or is this shit reasoning to vote for someone before youre even fully caught up?

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 8: Attention Boardaytan Workers!
wallmasterz
03/13/23 12:08:50 AM
#70
Chaeix posted...
and what are you doing to help assess the situation wallz

Im asking ctes to explain why he was the sole vote on chris blatantly obvious mislynch candidate, then ctes didnt move to death when there was a train on the guy, and then killed town death n1 as if Chris flipping scum somehow made death a more appealing option?

try an iso of ctes. It will take you 5 minutes (unless on mobile lol) to get to topic 4. He barely bothered even pretending to try solving the game until a little bit of d2 where he didnt vote for anyone. His biggest effort d1 was being Chris list making assistant. He has been most vocal today which has been a shit show for town so far, and in my eyes a golden opportunity for ctes to look busy without getting us any closer to actually solving the game.

jc I feel like youre actually trying to solve the game. Maybe youre scum and doing a good job of convincing me. But Im concerned theres one, at absolute most two scum between Isquen, BCT, you and Dumey, and we are just going to lynch ourselves into oblivion.

From what Ive been told of Chris, I find it incredibly hard to believe scum is just waiting around afk 80% of the time. I think at least one member of team scum is playing 4D chess and as of now I think its ctes. He claimed town vig and sure he didnt have to claim flavor but Im sure interested in knowing. Killing a townie and using that to clear yourself simultaneously is the sort of sneaky crap I expect scum to pull. I think theres a lot of in-fighting around town today and its been irritating me.

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 8: Attention Boardaytan Workers!
wallmasterz
03/12/23 11:41:22 PM
#66
I have a feeling death and crescent are just perpetually facepalming in dead town chat

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 8: Attention Boardaytan Workers!
wallmasterz
03/12/23 9:08:18 PM
#42
I apologize for my misuse of the word literal. Its been a day.

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 8: Attention Boardaytan Workers!
wallmasterz
03/12/23 9:07:53 PM
#41
Ah sorry fat fingered

if you lacked the conviction to vote for death when he was a viable lynch candidate why would you kill him n1?

then d2 why did you vote for no one?

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 8: Attention Boardaytan Workers!
wallmasterz
03/12/23 9:03:48 PM
#40
ctes, can you walk us through your reasoning for how youve voted so far?

d1, you voted for sultan. You were the only vote on sultan at day end. Chris tried to force sultan so hard it was a literal red flag for many people. Now, sultan is on your relatively short confirmed town list (presumably because Chris flipped scum). Whyd you vote for sultan d1?

n1, you shot town death. If you lacked the conviction to vote death d1 when he was a viable Lynch candidate why would you

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 8: Attention Boardaytan Workers!
wallmasterz
03/12/23 8:22:51 PM
#21
soundtrack to day 3

https://youtu.be/iJYvCHm3Ov4

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 8: Attention Boardaytan Workers!
wallmasterz
03/12/23 8:21:32 PM
#20
Jc thats a hell of a list my friend

I like how Lea, the person who was instrumental in lynching Chris is your least confident town read and Dumey is higher based on Lea confirming the neighborizing occurred lol if Dumey and Lea are both scum then they could lie about neighborizer entirely

I also believe its factually wrong to say ulti has to be lying if scum didnt shoot him? I think Han, ctes or both alluded to that in their responses to my comment

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/12/23 6:04:09 PM
#435
HanOfTheNekos posted...
So I didn't believe Ulti, and I would guess Scum didn't either.

I thought Ulti was faking Doctor to cover for Crescent. But even if you believe he is Doctor and do something to make sure to kill Crescent (like an unblockable), it's still not super likely to believe Ulti is BP. Unless they tested him N1... which, again, is very possible.

i blame dst and lack of sleep but Im sorry I dont get this. If they tested ultis bp claim n1 he would either be dead if he was bluffing or a prime unblockable kill target if telling the truth about being bp, no? Why would they test him, hes bp and then they dont use unblockable on him?

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/12/23 5:14:59 PM
#422
I think the likeliest explanation is scum does not have an unblockable kill because why in the world would they not use it on bulletproof doctor.

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/12/23 4:38:49 PM
#402
*d3 read

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/12/23 4:38:43 PM
#401
I would also like to ask Dumey what question(s) he has for isquen since Dumey conceded isquens vote on sheep looked worse than mine

and yes Dumey Ill address your question later

i am going to do a whole d3 later

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/12/23 3:25:09 PM
#348
One thing seemed clear before and is more obvious than ever, jc and ctes are linked for sure

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/12/23 3:24:36 PM
#347
EDumey posted...
Ulti I hate to engage in this kind of WIFOM argument, but do you really think I as scum would sit here and just let a scum buddy get lynched without aggressively pushing for another option? It's not like scum Sheep dying gives me any kind of town cred.

Dumey based on this post, in a hypothetical world where youre scum, would you say if a scum buddy is in danger youd work on pushing for another option?

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/12/23 2:48:15 PM
#335
Dumey I promise Ill respond later when I have a bit more time.

I was convinced crescent got a guilty scan on isquen and was trying to tell us without explicitly telling us in hopes jc was town and she could maintain some illusion of being Miller and not cop. Ill try to collect them all this evening if no one else has done it by then.

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/12/23 8:51:31 AM
#252
EDumey posted...
5AM Post Go!

This reads very nervous to me. Sure, I mixed up the name when I was going back and forth with BCT. But for you to bring up the idea that you don't think I read D2 very well like four times because I mixed up a name is a little bit condescending, don't you think? Why are you so nervous?
It sounds like you had no idea why Sheep was lynched, and just voted him because people you see as established town was voting him.
This is kind of a textbook bandwagon.
Wallz I'm not saying you're the "face" of the Sheep lynch. The reason (which I stated before as well) I think you look the worst on the Sheep lynch is because I think you just put yourself on that train and sat and let Town lynch itself. Others on that lynch have reasons why they wanted to vote Sheep. You jumped onto the wagon with

Your previous posts to that are all just jokes with the gang as well, nothing to point to as a catalyst for this vote. It just looks like you jumped on at an opportune time.

I'm very not confused Wallz. Please don't hide behind this veneer of "maybe you should re-read?"

So you didnt like me saying we might as well get the show on the road? If thats what ends up getting me mislynched then so be it but no I dont feel bad for saying that lol. The latter part of d2 absolutely dragged. A handful of folks werent active at all, and a (in-hindsight) sheep-saving special seemed extremely unlikely.

You mentioned your approach to d3 involved thinking crescent was sus/scum, possibly in part because she had the same attitude. She verbalized wishing d2 ended in 24 irl hours with an isquen lynch. You were wrong about crescent and it means nothing coming from me obviously, but youre wrong about me as well. If you are town :) which you probably are because I dont see you making a claim Lea could demolish in 60 seconds.

if you felt I was condescending, I apologize. the premise of your initial question only made sense after you quoted the post where I vote for sheep. When you said my vote looked the worst I interpreted that as me voting for sheep looked the worst not my literal vote post. Im not the only one who found this confusing, look at BCTs initial reaction (BCT is a different can of worms but my point still stands).

on d1 I left my vote on sheep longer than anyone after the initial suspicion towards him died down. I had my own reasons for voting sheep, and i wasnt totally convinced he was scum but I wasnt 100% convinced anyone was at any point in this game, and either way I thought his flip would give some really good info. Not to mention sheep sort of hung his head and accepted his lynch without even attempting a compelling effort to convince town of his innocence. I think it was crescent who said sheep seemed like scum content with their fate and I agreed with that.

Look, Im not trying to be a jerk. I do think your initial post where you said my vote looked the worst and asked me to answer your question wasnt the clearest. Between you using the wrong name to BCT and it seeming like you were grasping at straws at first glance, yeah it seemed like you mightve been confused and I was annoyed to be tasked with summarizing the sheep lynch when I didnt see why my vote was different than anyone else. Sorry if I had an attitude as a result.

i dont see how you think Im hiding, though. I made a good faith effort to answer your question despite not understanding why you were singling me out and then said Id be happy to give you more details if you want. Whether youre town hunting as town, scum hunting as town or trying to set up a mislynch as scum, its early d3 and Im here to answer any question you may wish to ask, regardless of how out of the blue it may seem.

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/12/23 3:37:24 AM
#247
And at this point ulti is the most confirmed town in the game so if he says to claim, Ill support it. Not to mention it seems all town power is out in the open now and we lost our cop.

I am Mr. Boothby, Groundskeeper at Starfleet Academy and town vanilla. Ive seen maybe a couple eps of classic Star Trek and the first Abrams movie and I have never heard of Mr. Boothby lol. Or dont remember him at the very least. The flavor gives me the impression hes kind of the Star Trek worlds equivalent of boy meets worlds Mr. Feeny so thats cool.

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/12/23 3:30:46 AM
#246
Dumey let me preface this by saying I think youre town. Especially if Lea can vouch for your claim. I just dont think you paid very much attention to how the vote on sheep went d2 like at all.

in 7.184 you incorrectly state I hammered the lynch on sheep. That was isquen.

It is perfectly reasonable for you to ask me to give my thoughts on the sheep mislynch but it literally boggles my mind to read you say I specifically looked the worst after sheep flipped town. Perhaps its less weird considering you obviously are mixed up on a detail or two, but I digress.

Sheep was pinging my scumdar for all of d1. But by the end of the day I had moved on. Then come d2, a lot of people I had town reads on started voting or suspecting sheep. Lea (and ulti once I saw no one countered his doctor claim) primarily, crescent and Han to a lesser degree. I actually defended sheep vs ulti and I was on jc early d2. Personally speaking I thought sheep did a mediocre job justifying keeping his vote on Han, and I agreed with the crowd that sheep calling the scan on crescent really bad didnt sit quite right. If you go back and re-read d2 (which no offense but based on you wrongly thinking I hammered, you probably should lol) youll see Lea calls sheep probable scum, crescent, Han and ulti all suspect sheep, and Im a little late coming back to that party.

Sheep himself admitted he didnt have a great d1, and a handful of veteran players said sheep was acting weird/different, too many for it to just be a scum narrative. Between people I believed to be town questioning Sheep based on past games I had no insight on and my own observations, I was comfortable going along with the sheep lynch which had already been started.

Im happy to give you more details if you want but I really think you should just try re-reading d2 unless you had different motives for asking me this. Im still a little puzzled by you making me the face of the sheep lynch for reasons(?), im sure. But hopefully this answers your question.

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/12/23 3:13:28 AM
#245
Have you ever walked into a bathroom stall and theres smeared crap all over the toilet seat and floor but you still have to take care of business

that is what catching up with the latest posts itt feels like lol

Dumey Ill respond to you, anything else may be later because its 3am for me

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/11/23 8:57:48 PM
#160
Happy d3 everyone and RIP Crescent.

Just a heads up Im very sleep deprived (thanks 11 month old Wall Jr) so I wont be posting much tonight. I read d1 today and plan to re-read d2, it seems obvious in hindsight she got a guilty read on someone she was very in favor of lynching yesterday.

isquen im honored to be in your PoE along with uncountered doc claim ulti

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/10/23 7:46:35 PM
#125
And to state the obvious my last post is based on the assumption sheep flips scum. Otherwise yeah no need to rush the day bc well have a lot to talk about

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/10/23 7:45:05 PM
#122
Crescent-Moon posted...
Everything Isquen has done reeks of scum intentionally trying to fail to catch up before the day is over to get a free pass and the idea of specialing him is actually tempting but I don't see how it stops tomorrow from being a repeat of today.

I think town should aim to end d3 after 24 hours so things dont drag so painfully as they did d2. Isquen will have the irl 24 hour n2 and so that gives him basically 48 additional hours starting now. No hard feelings if he cant catch up all the way or doesnt care to, but anything he wants to say to make a case for himself, he will have had a fair amount of time imo since replacing in.

We will need 6 votes and I think we can get there

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/10/23 6:42:27 PM
#62
Crescent-Moon posted...
One thing though, for Han to be scum requires yesterday to have been a town/scum/scum split where the scum were voting each other.

^^^

han also voted Chris before crescent and bct

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/10/23 6:33:42 PM
#55
ctesjbuvf posted...
I thought so too at the time and actually briefly considered shooting Ulti too, but not at this stage.

lol if youre actually vig that wouldve been ironic because death wouldve lived. I think ulti is bulletproof doctor but Im convinced hes not lying about the bulletproof part if hes scum

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/10/23 6:23:49 PM
#51
Sheep007 posted...
I'm happy for everyone to answer the same question tbh, I think it's the best place for y'all to start when I die?

1.001

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/10/23 6:22:35 PM
#50
ctesjbuvf posted...
If you flip town, then yes, that seems quite likely.

Though Wall would still be in mine as well. I have enough respect for what I've seen from him to think he could be scum despite being "new" and literally ever player accepting him as town is a bit worrying. I would not go that route first, but he's definitely still in my PoE.

I appreciate the respect but while I havent been a target of serious scrutiny yet, I wouldnt say everyone is accepting me as town by any means. Maybe Im mistaken but when everyone included me in their veto list for Chris exercise, I assumed I was just being included because Im the new guy and it was d1. I think that might be skewing perception a bit.

at minimum, crescent and isquen are definitely skeptical of me

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/10/23 6:15:29 PM
#45
Im around too sheep

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/10/23 5:30:57 PM
#38
EDumey posted...
Ulti I hate to engage in this kind of WIFOM argument, but do you really think I as scum would sit here and just let a scum buddy get lynched without aggressively pushing for another option? It's not like scum Sheep dying gives me any kind of town cred.

this is certainly a post

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.
wallmasterz
03/10/23 3:36:25 PM
#8
Im late to say TVA is the recommended kingdom hearts bbs playthrough order

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 6: I'm a co-host, not a doctor
wallmasterz
03/10/23 2:37:11 PM
#443
UltimaterializerX posted...
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See you guys tomorrow. I trust Sheep is toast no matter what, yes?

bye ulti I genuinely hope you have a good day

yes Im definitely not starting the vote ulti revolution once you leave

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 6: I'm a co-host, not a doctor
wallmasterz
03/10/23 2:32:52 PM
#438
Isquen posted...
Well maybe you should take some advice that I get and not be so darned unlikeable :)

So, while I'm still collecting my thoughts... why, of all people, was DEATH targeted with the night kill? That makes no fish.

we believed that by killing death all townies would achieve immortality

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 6: I'm a co-host, not a doctor
wallmasterz
03/10/23 12:57:35 PM
#401
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Thank you for quoting that to make sure Scum saw it, Wall. Very kind of you.

And Cop on, Lea.

i was trying to shit post and posted too soon, but also youre welcome

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 6: I'm a co-host, not a doctor
wallmasterz
03/10/23 12:56:07 PM
#398
HanOfTheNekos posted...
I want to clarify that this is not a breadcrumb, Scum. I am not Doctor. Please don't kill me.

mother of god

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 6: I'm a co-host, not a doctor
wallmasterz
03/10/23 12:54:39 PM
#396
HanOfTheNekos posted...
I want to clarify that this is not a breadcrumb, Scum. I am not Doctor. Please don't kill me.


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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 6: I'm a co-host, not a doctor
wallmasterz
03/10/23 12:46:34 PM
#388
Anyone else feel strongly about pronouns and care to mention it now so theres no more hard feelings?

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 6: I'm a co-host, not a doctor
wallmasterz
03/10/23 12:44:31 PM
#384
BlueCrystalTear posted...
And as for pronouns, I only accept "he/him." Anything else is offensive to me.

im 99% sure I used they/them to refer to you numerous times in this game so it kinda seems like someone mentioning the slightest possibility youre scum is whats actually offensive to you

but noted and will stick with he/him going forward

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 6: I'm a co-host, not a doctor
wallmasterz
03/10/23 12:43:09 PM
#383
*runs through topic with cowbell*

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 6: I'm a co-host, not a doctor
wallmasterz
03/10/23 12:25:51 PM
#365
I took a few minutes to read all the recent posts again, particularly those by ulti and crescent and now I think Im just a dummy lol

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 6: I'm a co-host, not a doctor
wallmasterz
03/10/23 12:20:56 PM
#362
UltimaterializerX posted...
Crescents role makes godfather a small possibility, and I think those two are most likely. Wall more so, because he panicked at the thought of being scanned when he thought cop was a flavor scanner before being relieved it was just innocent/guilty. But I learned the hard way a long time ago not to hunt for godfathers too early. Take the sure thing with the most info (Sheep in this case) and go from there.

panicked and relieved are strong words (not accurate either and I think you know that ulti). I suspected ulti was either scum or town power based on his energetic start to the game which maybe was naive of me since Im new, or maybe its just coincidence, but I honestly feel like I called that one.

for the most part I think ulti is town now but Ive been on his case on and off since literally my first post, so I think crescent taking issue with that so called progression of mine is much ado about nothing

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 6: I'm a co-host, not a doctor
wallmasterz
03/10/23 10:21:33 AM
#326
Exactly, when youre town its important to read everything the person you replaced said to ensure total consistency wrt your role

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 6: I'm a co-host, not a doctor
wallmasterz
03/10/23 8:38:45 AM
#272
Makes total sense. I shouldve thought about that

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 6: I'm a co-host, not a doctor
wallmasterz
03/10/23 8:35:11 AM
#270
Actually, first. Jc should tell us who he would target if he didnt get any input from townies

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 6: I'm a co-host, not a doctor
wallmasterz
03/10/23 8:32:15 AM
#269
Maybe since we plan to spare jc at least one day more, town can try to reach a consensus on where our alleged lazy tracker should go tonight?

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 6: I'm a co-host, not a doctor
wallmasterz
03/10/23 8:29:23 AM
#268
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Anyways I'm good with sheep or JC both give us alot of info upon flip.

Im not sold on JC being town but all other things equal it only makes sense to give the claimed town power a chance to, yknow *imagine stick figure do something meme*

with sheep and Dumey both claiming vanilla, ulti should move his vote too. Plus Im inclined to believe Han.

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 6: I'm a co-host, not a doctor
wallmasterz
03/10/23 7:21:10 AM
#240
ulti is definitely questionable. Imo the best thing going for him right now is no one has counterclaimed doctor

ctes I really really think youre town but shooting mislynch candidate death to claim town vig and then crafting the narrative (why would scum kill death?) under the guise of getting advance reactions from everyone is the sort of galaxy brain play I think youre capable of lol

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 6: I'm a co-host, not a doctor
wallmasterz
03/09/23 11:41:39 PM
#217
##Unvote
##Vote: Sheep

Well I doubt were going to get the votes to end day early but heres hoping

Question for anyone interested/bored enough to answer. If sheep flips town, what do you make of it and what would your proposed next steps be?

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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 6: I'm a co-host, not a doctor
wallmasterz
03/09/23 9:55:39 PM
#181
Crescent-Moon posted...
Ok this feels like town snark.

meanwhile

ulti: my entire argument for not being scum hinges on the fact I would never do that thing
crescent: oh he absolutely would do that thing
also crescent: doesnt vote for ulti

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