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So now in a state that hasn't legalized abortion on its own, a woman can be freely raped and won't be able to get an abortion? More proof conservatives are stuck in 2016.

So this accomplishes absolutely nothing besides causing a whole lot of headaches. Great court!

So these judges essentially care more about fetuses than the people giving birth to them, all because of religion? Yikes.

Democrats: Spend too much time arguing with each other to get anything done.

Republicans: Tend to get stuff done which just makes things worse.

What a country.

Does this illegalize abortion completely or does it only do so in states that don't specify it?

Looks like the conservatives are striking back!

A frequent criticism of the movie has been that it doesn't do enough with the multiverse concept. I understand that but didn't really feel that way when I was actually watching the film. I suspect more will come eventually and that this movie was meant as an introduction. Let's be honest: No Way Home only really used the multiverse for the sake of fanservice. This movie at least used it for the more fulfilling purpose of cosmic horror. I get the feeling John Carpenter would be proud.

Oh maybe Leon took issue with me bringing up other films for comparison. Might be getting too many ideas from TV Tropes. Or maybe it was me bringing up The Flash again. I still find the DCEU troubles fascinating to watch though and felt like elaborating on that so I didn't seem like I found Ezra Miller's actions "glorious" somehow!

I didn't bring up YouTube randos! Unless you count me mentioning what has been one of the most common criticisms of Doctor Strange 2.

I feel like another reason some of my MCU takes might seem so weird is because I'm interested more in the storytelling possibilities of the superhero "genre" than in the characters per se. Although on that token I feel like Multiverse of Madness has made for an effective enough introduction to the multiverse idea seeing how this is the first time a character from the main universe is travelling through it (as opposed to a time-displaced Loki finding out about it through sheer happenstance, a cartoon showing off other universes, and characters from prior film continuities showing up in the MCU), and in hindsight I feel like the criticism that the movie doesn't do "enough" with the multiverse concept may be more because of how the whole idea has become more common in media as of late, e.g. Crisis On Infinite Earths, Into the Spider-Verse, Everything Everywhere All At Once. That's another reason I feel like The Flash is doomed even discounting other PR headaches, but that's another topic.

Speaking of, I've seen Into the Spider-Verse twice and both times only found it decent. Other members of my family love it and I get the hype, but I feel like it might have raised expectations a bit high for some which might be affecting views on Multiverse of Madness in particular and maybe to a lesser extent No Way Home.

Is it just me or does the right in America hate the left more than vice versa? I REALLY don't want to demonize people solely for their politics.

The lead actress supporting police brutality in Hong Kong and Disney actively coordinating with the oppressive state government of Xinjiang.

The last one being the main reason I brought up the Blizzard connection. Even then I admit it's not anywhere near as impactful as Blizzard's treatment of Blitzchung, although Chapek outright funding the Florida Bill and then refusing to take a stance against it when asked has shades of it.

Thinking about it, neither is that big of a deal and just comes off as big corporation works with whoever it wants in the name of money.

2018 - Firing James Gunn.
2019 - Jettisoning Spider-Man from the MCU
2020 - Mulan
2021 - Underpaying Scarlett Johansson
2022 - The Florida Bill

Is Disney going the way of Blizzard?

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Part of me feels like if Hillary Clinton had run in 2020 against Trump without having run against him in 2016 she might have been able to win. This is probably faulty logic since a big part of the reason Trump won in 2016 was because he was "not-Hillary".

Saw Multiverse of Madness. I lots of fun and got the cosmic horror adventure I wanted but I recognize most of the criticisms and I feel like only Sam Raimi could make this work.

Hey I'm not the one who pivoted this to Star Wars talk initially. I will take full responsibility for not noticing which topic this was though.

That's honestly how I feel though. I don't find the criticisms problematic, just the sheer level of vitriol aimed at Disney-era Star Wars, The Last Jedi in particular. There's disappointment and frustration, and then there's whatever this is. It frankly crosses the line into vindictiveness, spite, and downright entitlement.

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I still feel like Disney is just progressively sucking the life out of every bankable aspect of the series without adding anything new to it. This from someone who considers The Mandalorian the best streaming series I've seen, even above Stranger Things or any of the Disney+ Marvel shows.

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Sometimes movies can overcome controversy relating to someone involved. Recent examples include Coco, Deadpool 2, and Bohemian Rhapsody. But in those cases it was the film's director at worst. This is the lead actor.

Anyway I do feel a little bad for making this topic. Like I said I find it amusing how much bad publicity The Flash is getting in a masochistic way, but I don't feel remotely the same about what Ezra Miller is doing. I more just feel like the DCEU is beyond salvaging at this point, at least as a big franchise to compete with Marvel.

Sorry I didn't understand what that meant. Actual situation with the DCEU or with Ezra?

Yeah I'm more and more realizing my logic was faulty in any case. That being said I still think the DCEU has no chance whatsoever to compete with the MCU, so The Flash is probably still doomed even if you somehow discount Ezra Miller's...antics.

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CassandraCain posted...

Most definitely not the problem.

I'd say the majority of us do indeed keep up with movie news, we just don't repeat what we hear on youtube and instead form our own opinions to express. For instance, we all knew what was going on with Ezra before you made this topic, and you didn't even mention anything about the actual situation in your op.

LMS would you believe me if I told you that pretty much everything you talk about is not news to us?

Actual situation with Ezra? I did give a view on the problems with the DCEU, although I'm starting to realize it's a little flawed. The logic being anything that follows on directly from Batman v. Superman and Suicide Squad will scare away audiences who hated them while anything that specifically tries to jettison the DCEU from them will get backlash from those movies' fans.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

I feel like the venn diagram of marvel and star wars fans is going to be pretty close to a perfect circle.

That might only be true for streaming series. Or if we're talking about Disney-era Star Wars.

Okay I got that last anecdote from TV Tropes.

scarletspeed7 posted...

There's a difference between news and what you post.

And if you think The Suicide Squad "flopped", you've forgotten it came out at the height of the pandemic and was also released on HBO Max. I mean, come on, dude.

Fair, but it's still a $185 million R-rated follow up to a critically-panned movie. That was always going to limit its audience.

Also I suppose by "news" I should have meant general goings-on.

It's Trump all over again.

Speaking of Captain Marvel, I realized only recently that Monica Rambeau's increased role in Wandavision and her frustration with Carol's absence were simultaneously meant to alleviate concerns over Monica's portrayal in Captain Marvel being potentially racist (since she does nothing but cheer Carol on) and make Carol seem less "perfect". Huh. This is actually kind of interesting!

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Could also be because of Chris Evans being vocal about opposing people who object to movies for racist or sexist reasons.

Oh my god The Marvels is going to be fun.

Fair, but Garfield's and Maguire's involvement wasn't officially known beforehand. Plus, at least those two are also Spider-Man. I'm getting BvS vibes here moreso than NWH ones.

I think the problem here is that much of this board doesn't follow movie news a whole lot, so a lot of what I write comes out of left field as a result. I'll also admit I was partially inspired to make this topic by seeing the first Wonder Woman for the first time recently and having seen 1984 first, it really felt like Patty Jenkins needed others like Zack Snyder to cover up her worst excesses. Wonder Woman clearly fit into Snyder's plan, but the stench of Batman v. Superman caused the DCEU to move forward by excising the Snyder-isms which led to stuff like the theatrical cut of Justice League (refuse to call it 'Josstice League') and Wonder Woman 1984. I also feel like Birds of Prey and The Suicide Squad flopped financially because of being associated with Suicide Squad in the first place along with not having the things that made that movie so popular to begin with.

I guess I should clarify since I didn't elaborate why I think The Flash is going to suck. To me the emphasis on all the extra characters reeks of not having enough faith in the title character or his actor (even discounting the bad press) to carry a movie - EXACTLY the same hole Batman v. Superman dug itself into by being the follow-up to Man of Steel instead of a second Superman movie, which was only exacerbated when Wonder Woman's and Doomsday's roles in the plot were spoiled in trailers beforehand. With speculation surrounding The Flash possibly writing the Snyderverse out of existence while simultaneously repeating one of Batman v. Superman's sins...this is worse than I thought. THAT is what's glorious. There's nothing glorious about Ezra Miller's legal problems.

That's awfully circular logic there. Yes I'm still bitter.

Apparently Clinton is still a right-wing boogeyman (woman?). Convinced people are just sick and tired of her since she has been a fixture of US politics for decades now.

Sorry I didn't mean to make light of the whole Ezra Miller fiasco. I do personally find it hilarious how much bad publicity the Flash movie is getting before it's even out, but I feel like it's shaping up to be a BvS-level disaster anyways.

(have I actually seen BvS? Not fully, but I have like no desire to anymore. The days when I wanted to watch the early DCEU films out of sheer bile fascination are done)

Is there honestly ANYTHING they could do to make it work? Any attempt to follow on from Batman v. Superman and Suicide Squad will scare audiences who hated them away, while distancing the franchise from the pre-2017 stuff only serves to alienate the built-in audience. Zack Snyder's Justice League doesn't count, it was a relatively low-budget streaming release.

The more I think about it, even if you magically ignore Ezra Miller's legal troubles that Flash movie is shaping up to be a disaster. And it is GLORIOUS.

It feels like basically any big blockbuster game that doesn't have much contest strength is "casual". Minecraft is not really something that comes to mind when it comes to "casual" games, especially considering how notoriously intimidating the game was to newcomers before tutorials were added. So even if it is "casual", it sure isn't in the same vein as something like Call of Duty or GTA. To say nothing of mobile games!

I guess you're talking more contest strength but boy is it strange.

Oh no I went back there.

TBH I think Abrams is talented, it's just the flaws in his general style have become so apparent due to how influential he is within the industry. IIRC Tom Cruise hired him to direct Mission: Impossible III because he was impressed with the action in Alias, and then everything just ballooned from there. Not helped by Abrams having directed a grand total of one film not part of a franchise and even that was basically a proto-Stranger Things. Also huh Abrams sure likes his action heroines, can't say I'm complaining though. And not just for that.

It started as a joke before The Force Awakens came out that if the movie sucked J. J. Abrams would be nicknamed Jar Jar Abrams forever. Needless to say, people who didn't like the movie latched on to the nickname and it only intensified with The Rise of Skywalker.

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We'll instead have a cameo from Jar Jar Abrams obviously.

This is more meant to poke fun at people who use that nickname. I used to and now I regret it. Got old real fast.

Leonhart4 posted...

Well yes, but he lost lucrative roles because of Heard's accusations. To act like nobody wanted him before that because he had a few box office flops (as most big actors do) is disingenuous.

He didn't lose them ENTIRELY because of Heard's accusations. And it's not a "few" box office flops, he hasn't had a major financial success since the 2010 Alice in Wonderland. Even his box-office successes like Pirates 5 and Fantastic Beasts 2 were deemed domestic underperformers that needed foreign grosses to be profitable. There are lots of people within the entertainment industry in general who have been accused of far worse yet suffered little career repercussions for it.

Leonhart4 posted...

You're really running with this take and feeling good about it huh

It's simple: Hollywood will forgive anything and anyone until they stop bringing in money and/or is outed by many as a monster. And typically it has to be both. Mostly just hate the whole idea of cancel culture though.

ExThaNemesis posted...

Actual victims of abuse should be furious about this, but more-so that Amber Heard used their good faith movement to destroy a man's career/life and got caught out on it.

She didn't singlehandedly destroy Depp's career. Depp himself destroyed it through his behavior on movie sets and being in so many high-profile flops like Dark Shadows and The Lone Ranger (gee, how's that Armie Hammer fellow doing?).

Anyway, good to see Heard is a Donald Trump-level bad sport. Slightly amusing to see how both genders are equally capable of this crap considering how many use these behaviors to slam the opposite sex.

Waluigi1 posted...

Lmao at the fake notes and her lawyer. At this point I kinda feel sorry for her lawyers for even having her as a client.

Not saying it, just heavily implying it, gotcha.

I genuinely don't though. Sometimes you just have to identify the source of the problem. Depp wasn't bringing in the dough, so his career was suddenly vulnerable and studios were quick to drop him. Meanwhile Heard co-starred in the billion-dollar hit Aquaman. To provide some other examples of this phenomenon at work, The Weinstein Company's last movie prior to his scandal has a 10% on Rotten Tomatoes and two of Kevin Spacey's last three movies (including his last starring role Nine Lives) have similarly low scores. Also, all three films were box-office bombs (though I'm struggling to think of movies with sub-15% RT scores that weren't. Even now I can only list three off the top of my head and at least one of them is pushing it).

charmander6000 posted...

Probably still one of the strongest PC only games on GameFAQs, so a midcarder.

Was mostly curious about the possibility it would be punished for Blizzard's current scandals. Probably distant enough but who knows?

I wonder how StarCraft performs the next time it appears in a games contest.

Inviso posted...

The thing about Trump, in my opinion, that sets him apart from the countless posers all trying to position themselves as the next Trump, is the television background. He knew how to tailor himself to appeal to an audience because he's done it for years. Someone like MTG/Lauren Boebert or Ron DeSantis/Ted Cruz can say inflammatory shit, but at the end of the day, they all either come across as awkward, stumbling dumbasses (there is a difference between this and Trump), or someone who's trying to play dress-up and ACT like Trump. And it's noticeable.

That makes me think of the jokes in Back to the Future regarding Doc Brown trying to come to grips with Ronald Reagan being a future POTUS.

Also I know I'm well-known on this board for always citing other peoples' opinions, but I can't help but bring up Roger Ebert's review of Wall Street where he discusses how people with a business background are often spoken of as potential candidates for the Presidency because they know how much they can get away with. He even specifically cited Trump! I think Trump even addressed the notion of running for POTUS at the time, and he said he wasn't interested then but he detailed his economic policy and it seemed similar to what he actually did. On another topic, I feel like Trump's election caused Hollywood to look for reasons to expel Harvey Weinstein due to his surface similarities to Trump in background and temperament and boy did they hit the jackpot there.

For what it's worth when I was obsessively simulating matches using the GOTD x-stats I kept getting a nagging feeling Fallout 3's quarter and Shadow of the Colossus's eightpack were too high.

I still think Majora's Mask won 2010 on its own strength with maybe a slight bandwagon at best, not that it suddenly got loads of strength out of nowhere. It swatted aside Pokemon GSC, Wind Waker, and especially Metal Gear Solid 3 like they were nothing. Do not bring up Super Metroid in 2015. Super Metroid is just that good.

Also remember that Draven and Undertale had to be against weak(ish?) competition in Round 1 to go anywhere.