Board 8 > Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard Aftermath

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LinkMarioSamus
06/14/22 4:23:11 PM
#51:


Honestly I said that about Depp mostly based on an anecdote from Roger Ebert's review of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas where Ebert brings up Depp getting arrested for trashing a hotel room in a drunken stupor, sarcastically asking if that was research for the film. And apparently Depp had a bit of a "bad boy" image back then. That plus some horror stories from the productions of some of Depp's recent films, perhaps most notably Pirates 5 made me wonder about him being like this all along. Not saying I don't side with Depp against Amber Heard though.

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red sox 777
06/14/22 4:44:02 PM
#52:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
Yeah... that dumbass is doing at least one of these three things:
* Supporting Turd by attacking Johnny's character here
* Attempting self-righteous validation for whatever dumb shit he said
* Trying to gain notoriety
I'm guessing the third is why it's going to trial despite him not having a lawyer. He's representing himself for $$$. Even if he loses, he's expecting appearance fees and such for other things, and may have written a book he wants to promote. There's no advertising quite like negative press covfefe. All he has to lose is time. He has no lawyer to pay and Johnny's not counter-suing (at least not yet). Even so, I expect him to get eviscerated. I can only imagine Camille saying "You're trying to attack Johnny's character for your own fame, aren't you?" as this guy cracks on the stand. Camille is a defamation specialist but after her performance in the Turd trial, Johnny will want her there so he can sue this guy's ass after the trial for defamation, or at least threaten to.

That said, even though this is absolute folly, I gotta admire this dodo's testicular fortitude by representing himself against the big dogs. That's probably the only nice thing I'd have to say about him based on what little I know.

If his only statements are within his lawsuit, there's no defamation because statements in a lawsuit are protected by litigation privilege. Otherwise, lots of winning parties to a lawsuit would file follow up suits for defamation.

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Leonhart4
06/14/22 4:58:54 PM
#53:


LinkMarioSamus posted...
Honestly I said that about Depp mostly based on an anecdote from Roger Ebert's review of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas where Ebert brings up Depp getting arrested for trashing a hotel room in a drunken stupor, sarcastically asking if that was research for the film. And apparently Depp had a bit of a "bad boy" image back then. That plus some horror stories from the productions of some of Depp's recent films, perhaps most notably Pirates 5 made me wonder about him being like this all along. Not saying I don't side with Depp against Amber Heard though.

Yes, it's well known Depp has had substance abuse problems. He's admitted this himself, so what exactly were you trying to contribute?

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TheRock1525
06/14/22 6:05:17 PM
#54:


Unless I'm misreading, everything says that the accuser in Depp's next trial has a lawyer. He isn't representing himself.

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BlueCrystalTear
06/14/22 6:28:04 PM
#55:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
He likely expected a settlement with the upcoming pressure of the Amber Heard trial, and he likely expected that settlement to be solidified because he assumed like most people Amber would have won that trial, making it more likely Depp would settled to get that one away.

Obviously that didn't happen, and now he's stuck with this upcoming trial that he may still try to get out of before it hits the court room.

But if he's banking on getting appearances and such to make up for the ridiculous amount of money he's likely spent so far, it's not going to make up for it. Not only that, he's also likely to pay for attorney's fees after they waste all this time with an obviously fake story. So he's just continually losing money at this point.

red sox 777 posted...
If his only statements are within his lawsuit, there's no defamation because statements in a lawsuit are protected by litigation privilege. Otherwise, lots of winning parties to a lawsuit would file follow up suits for defamation.
All this makes sense. Forgive my ignorance on 1) how legal fees and such work and 2) about defamation. I'd thought that, if your false accusations cause negative press covfefe and you partake in interviews of lies and such, that you could still be sued, but I'm no lawyer so I'm not the person to ask. Thanks.

TheRock1525 posted...
Unless I'm misreading, everything says that the accuser in Depp's next trial has a lawyer. He isn't representing himself.
It would help to have a source on that.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/14/22 6:53:48 PM
#56:


TheRock1525 posted...
Unless I'm misreading, everything says that the accuser in Depp's next trial has a lawyer. He isn't representing himself.
Actually, I'll have to eat crow on that.

I had read something about Brooks representing himself pro se during the Amber Heard stuff. Rocky Brooks is the guy Johnny supposedly assaulted, and they were talking about Mo Brooks, who is in a case with Donald Trump.

So my fault on that one. From what I can tell Rocky Brooks in the Depp case does have a lawyer.

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kevwaffles
06/14/22 9:13:17 PM
#57:


He should honestly be suing you for defamation for mixing him up with Mo Brooks, lol.

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ZannoL
06/14/22 9:49:04 PM
#58:


Amber continues to trend after her botched interview:

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red sox 777
06/14/22 10:12:43 PM
#59:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
...but biscuit WAS talking about a specific person? he was talking about the cop in the heard incident. he wasn't commenting on cops or gay people in general.

a better analogy (in that it's much closer to what biscuit was actually saying) would be if i said "remember when john said lopen hates phoenix wright? well, turns out lopen is... a board 8 poster. so, turns out john was lying. lopen likes phoenix wright." sure, it's likely that i'm right and that john is lying, but i was still using faulty logic to come to this conclusion.

But on the other hand, unless you are Lopen, you would have no way to know for sure. So as a reader of your statement, I would not understand you to be making a claim to certainty that you could not have. It would be more reasonable to infer that you mean "probably."

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/15/22 2:16:34 PM
#60:


Amber's interview keeps going poorly and she's just utterly unconvincing and gives non-answers to every question or outright lies.

At this point, Depp's team should be filing an injunction because these lies are absurd. I'm sure they don't want to bring her to court over these claims too, but they'd need to wait and see if there are damages. But fuck, she just can't stop and let it go.

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MegaWentEvil
06/15/22 2:56:31 PM
#61:


People complain about Amber Heard, but I remember a topic years ago when a dentist pulled out all of her ex-husband/boyfriends's(don't remember) teeth, and people made jokes like "I got 99 problems, and 32 of them are my missing teeth". I doubt there would be jokes if the genders were reversed. That dentist is also a piece of shit. Why did she get a free pass?

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BlueCrystalTear
06/15/22 3:08:54 PM
#62:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
But fuck, she just can't stop and let it go.
Her level of distortion is insane. Like... she thinks she's 100% right, a wholly guiltless victim who made zero mistakes, and that this was "unfair" and "horrible for women everywhere." Like... abuse victims sided with Johnny for a reason. Amber is proving she's a gaslighting psychological abuser. Her excuses don't line up with reality.

Also Camille is an inspiration to young women everywhere, so Amber's sexism is falling on deaf ears. Johnny certainly got what he set out to do: Restore his reputation... and hopefully have Amber torpedo her own career in the process. Both were a success. Good riddance.

MegaWentEvil posted...
Why did she get a free pass?
What do you mean? She's been renamed "Amber Turd" and I've seen people parodying/mocking her...

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ViolentAbacus
06/15/22 3:11:26 PM
#63:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
What do you mean? She's been renamed "Amber Turd" and I've seen people parodying/mocking her...

No opinion either way, but MegaWentEvil was referring to the dentist, not Amber.

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red sox 777
06/15/22 3:15:36 PM
#64:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Amber's interview keeps going poorly and she's just utterly unconvincing and gives non-answers to every question or outright lies.

At this point, Depp's team should be filing an injunction because these lies are absurd. I'm sure they don't want to bring her to court over these claims too, but they'd need to wait and see if there are damages. But fuck, she just can't stop and let it go.

There won't be damages worth another defamation case, because people don't believe her at this point.

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Hardcore_Adult
06/15/22 3:28:17 PM
#65:


red sox 777 posted...
There won't be damages worth another defamation case, because people don't believe her at this point.

That's what you get when you cry wolf. People will believe you once, maybe twice but when the actual Wolf shows up people aren't gonna believe you, even if they see it too.

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Obellisk
06/15/22 3:55:12 PM
#66:


Hardcore_Adult posted...
That's what you get when you cry wolf. People will believe you once, maybe twice but when the actual Wolf shows up people aren't gonna believe you, even if they see it too.

so all the would be Amber Heard abusers, nows your time.

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MegaWentEvil
06/15/22 3:59:34 PM
#67:


ViolentAbacus posted...
No opinion either way, but MegaWentEvil was referring to the dentist, not Amber.
That's right.

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kevwaffles
06/15/22 4:31:44 PM
#68:


Stupid jokes about a clear cut horrible act do not constitute a "free pass".

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Nok_Su_Kow
06/16/22 7:48:42 AM
#69:


I laughed when AH was like "but this was like a credibility contest where I'm being judged!" and Samantha is all "that's literally what this trial was. It happened. You just experienced it and your credibility was found to be lacking". I've never seen someone crash and burn only to rise like some extra crispy phoenix eager to do it all over again. It's insane.

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Waluigi1
06/16/22 9:36:09 AM
#70:


Lmao at the fake notes and her lawyer. At this point I kinda feel sorry for her lawyers for even having her as a client.

LinkMarioSamus posted...
Not saying I don't side with Depp against Amber Heard though.
Not saying it, just heavily implying it, gotcha.

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ZannoL
06/16/22 9:51:51 AM
#71:


A juror broke his silence and revealed that no one believed Amber and that her extremely bad acting was a dead giveaway:

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/News/video/juror-johnny-depp-amber-heard-trial-speaks-1st-85432746

https://www.justjared.com/2022/06/16/johnny-depp-amber-heard-trial-juror-breaks-silence-reveals-what-they-thought-of-amber-her-donation-testimony/2/

A lot of her story didnt add up the majority of the jury felt that she was the aggressor, the juror told GMA. The crying, the facial expressions that she had, the staring at the jury. All of us were very uncomfortable she would answer one question and she would be crying and two seconds later she would turn ice cold

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/16/22 10:59:28 AM
#72:


I am loving this juror speaking out. I'll tell you this though: that was not fabled juror #9 who loathed her. It was likely another one of them who heard Amber's bullshit and said "Nah, I think we're done having her gaslight the world still."

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LinkMarioSamus
06/16/22 11:12:27 AM
#73:


Waluigi1 posted...
Lmao at the fake notes and her lawyer. At this point I kinda feel sorry for her lawyers for even having her as a client.

Not saying it, just heavily implying it, gotcha.

I genuinely don't though. Sometimes you just have to identify the source of the problem. Depp wasn't bringing in the dough, so his career was suddenly vulnerable and studios were quick to drop him. Meanwhile Heard co-starred in the billion-dollar hit Aquaman. To provide some other examples of this phenomenon at work, The Weinstein Company's last movie prior to his scandal has a 10% on Rotten Tomatoes and two of Kevin Spacey's last three movies (including his last starring role Nine Lives) have similarly low scores. Also, all three films were box-office bombs (though I'm struggling to think of movies with sub-15% RT scores that weren't. Even now I can only list three off the top of my head and at least one of them is pushing it).

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/16/22 12:27:24 PM
#74:


And then of course these are the headlines and what the MSM uses for this. Not that they said that her claims were unbelievable and her evidence didn't match any of it, and not that they thought she was the aggressor, and not that they didn't have social media so that had nothing to do with it. They're just such trash.

https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1537460604440543233?s=20&t=4sgCeeIVynv6Kjl9GiTcNA

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Nok_Su_Kow
06/16/22 12:38:32 PM
#75:


Juror: we followed the evidence and didn't buy the into the bad acting.

AH and team: fuck fuck fuckety fuck
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BlueCrystalTear
06/16/22 2:17:24 PM
#76:


A few things to note here:
  • It's good that the jury recognized that Amber was being disingenuous. Like... her demeanor would change on a dime depending on what point she needed to get across. It makes literally everything that comes out of her mouth hard to believe.
  • Still don't think Johnny was abusive. Being difficult to live with does not constitute abuse. Abuse is deliberate, whether conscious or subconscious. Amber knew what she was doing, but she had this innate need to beat up on somebody for self-gratification. Johnny isn't like that. He is an openly flawed person; with him, you know what you're getting. And yet he tries. In Amber's blackmail video, he held back from laying even a finger on her despite being intensely dysregulated. She was just fucking with him to get leverage that, in turn, made it clear who was playing games. It wasn't Johnny.
  • Amber is still so clueless as to not understand how fake she comes off as. She's not a good actress. Johnny wasn't even acting; he wanted to show himself for who he truly is. He wasn't playing a part. Amber was. This is why she was a jury goat. She's the kind of person you want to sit next to in the finale because nobody takes her seriously.
  • This all still amuses me. That's good, right?

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Crescent-Moon
06/16/22 5:48:53 PM
#77:


The jury clearly saw her for the sociopath she is. It just confirms what we already knew.

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ChaosTonyV4
06/16/22 8:06:27 PM
#78:


https://twitter.com/mutantfate/status/1537504564102021121?s=21&t=-H0zTojTWZNspO7SnWGBYQ

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theawesomestevr
06/16/22 8:58:01 PM
#79:


I'd say making a bunch of money off clickbait youtube videos is factually a lot healthier than throwing away all of your money, your career, and reputation.
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Waluigi1
06/16/22 9:31:34 PM
#80:


That guys apparently a hardcore Amber defender, ew.

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StealThisSheen
06/16/22 9:36:18 PM
#81:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://twitter.com/mutantfate/status/1537504564102021121?s=21&t=-H0zTojTWZNspO7SnWGBYQ

Doesn't that just make the Youtube guy look smart since he's probably making bank off of low effort clickbait videos that he's only able to make because of how Amber Heard herself is acting?

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/16/22 9:47:25 PM
#82:


Yo, imagine going in on this dude about being obsessed when Amber, Eve Barlow, and Amber's legal team is actually fuming over him constantly. Like they tried to get his channel taken down, Eve Barlow has sparred with him on Twitter, and Amber and her legal team are so furious that he's exposing her shit to a wide audience that they brought him up in literal court proceedings to the point that the witness thought they were crazy for even asking him about them.

Like ThatUmbrellaGuy is one of those anti-SJW grifters, but he has always seemed more tolerable about it than your weirdos like TheQuartering from the few videos I've seen from him. But the man is making absolute bank off of Amber Heard just by exposing how she's a legitimately horrific person that has been lying to the world. Amber Heard about to put his kid through college and he barely has to try.

Meanwhile the person trying to dunk on him trusts Amber Heard unconditionally and buys into every lie she continues to tell. They're not Twitter's finest.

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ChaosTonyV4
06/16/22 10:28:01 PM
#83:


This is why this topic is so wild.

Dude made like 600 videos about this case and has the nerve to call someone else obsessed. Its a genuinely funny dunk, you guys dont have to defend him because you think Amber Heard is the devil lol.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/16/22 10:30:48 PM
#84:


ok tony

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Waluigi1
06/16/22 10:36:42 PM
#85:


I don't see anyone defending him...?

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StealThisSheen
06/16/22 10:42:48 PM
#86:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
This is why this topic is so wild.

Dude made like 600 videos about this case and has the nerve to call someone else obsessed. Its a genuinely funny dunk, you guys dont have to defend him because you think Amber Heard is the devil lol.

One is burying herself in a deeper and deeper hole with her obsession, and one is making easy money off of clickbait videos because of the former. Not sure we agree on which direction this dunk goes, is all.

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redrocket
06/16/22 11:46:07 PM
#87:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
This is why this topic is so wild.

Dude made like 600 videos about this case and has the nerve to call someone else obsessed. Its a genuinely funny dunk, you guys dont have to defend him because you think Amber Heard is the devil lol.

Does it count as obsessed if its literally his livelihood?

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ChaosTonyV4
06/16/22 11:51:14 PM
#88:


redrocket posted...
Does it count as obsessed if its literally his livelihood?

Yes because its weird as hell

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Nok_Su_Kow
06/17/22 12:01:03 AM
#89:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Yes because its weird as hell

Its not something I'd personally do for a side job, but given the amount of celebrity news gossip and tragedy coverage since the inception of entertainment media, you still find this sort of thing weird? Even when he was personally wrapped up in it? Okay. Again, not something I'd do, but also not out of the ordinary and certainly not a hill I'd go for. Especially if its some wayward defense of someone as vitriolic as AH. That'd be weird.
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StealThisSheen
06/17/22 12:11:08 AM
#90:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Yes because its weird as hell

It's celebrity gossip. That has existed forever. Is it really weird as hell when the earnings to effort ratio for such videos is probably insane? The videos are literally just him talking over a few screenshots. It's not like the dude's selling his own farts. He's making low effort celebrity gossip videos. This seems pretty normal, all things considered.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/17/22 12:20:04 AM
#91:


I dunno I think a dude spreading the truth about a topic that both he and his followers are interested in over the course of 5 years and making bank on it is less weird than a woman making up horrific accusations of sexual and physical abuse about a man for 6 years to become a spokesperson for abuse you never received and lying about giving $7 million to charity and also shitting in somebody's bed is less weird.

But I guess the latter is the sort of thing that makes Tony less uncomfortable idk.

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ChaosTonyV4
06/17/22 12:26:52 AM
#92:


Obviously you cant see why its weird with an extremely normal response like that, lol.

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Waluigi1
06/17/22 12:35:01 AM
#93:


I do agree it's kinda pathetic, but can't really blame him when he's making bank by doing something so low effort. 4 vids a day does seem excessive.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/17/22 12:38:30 AM
#94:


Well I only bring it up because you were so uncomfortable with dopes on Twitter Dot Com thinking Amber snorted coke on the stand, you just couldn't support seeing Amber get her comeuppance anymore over it.

So I think it's fair to assume Amber's behavior makes you far less weirded out and offended than various other things to the point you're willing to post a really poor dunk from some likely teenager on Twitter Dot Com who is a self-professed Amber Heard Stan who posts live action super hero fan cams.

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Waluigi1
06/17/22 12:42:11 AM
#95:


Oh I didn't even realize Tony was the one to share that lol. Makes sense though.

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ExThaNemesis
06/17/22 12:48:26 AM
#96:


I think this case kind of broke the algorithm a bit.

It is literally the first time we've seen a false accusation come with actual consequences and as such the pushback on it is going to be tremendous from everyone involved.

Amber can't just be quiet and take her L because people with more pull than her won't let her.

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ChaosTonyV4
06/17/22 12:51:17 AM
#97:


Well first of all, it was not dopes on Twitter dot com, it was dopes in this topic.

And yeah, one bad woman who lost her court case is way less worrying and offensive to me than the obsessive and unhealthy way this has been covered.

When the whole situation started I was 100% on team Deppand I still ambut many fans of this case are extremely unhinged, and theres good reason to be worried about other victims of abuse who are probably going to get sued and will become the next spectator sport or whatever, our culture is not healthy, my dudes.


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ChaosTonyV4
06/17/22 12:57:52 AM
#98:


Its like that MAGA guy who was filmed at January 6th yelling at the police you have to stop this, this is insane! This is the Capitol!

Like he was (presumably) at the Stop the Steal rally because he believed in the cause, but when the people around him went crazy he was like yo this is nuts! He wanted the same thing as those people breaking in, but he got really embarrassed by them and could imagine its not going to end well.

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Nok_Su_Kow
06/17/22 1:02:19 AM
#99:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
one bad woman who lost her court case
If only AH left it at that. That's why it's abnormal, aka weird. She continues to defy the verdict but at the same time only giving it more credence with lies and narrative twists, setting herself up for more potential problems.

When someone, who supposedly speaks for victims as an arbitor of truth, is called out consistently for lying so many times it becomes a joke, you get the usual social media shit storm turned up to 11.

A serial liar and narcissist did this to herself, not a victim of abuse. This is not a setback for women or victims of abuse. Quit floating that narrative.
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Nok_Su_Kow
06/17/22 1:06:47 AM
#100:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Its like that MAGA guy who was filmed at January 6th yelling at the police you have to stop this, this is insane! This is the Capitol!

Like he was (presumably) at the Stop the Steal rally because he believed in the cause, but when the people around him went crazy he was like yo this is nuts! He wanted the same thing as those people breaking in, but he got really embarrassed by them and could imagine its not going to end well.

Ok, media backlash of a serial liar and narcissist getting bodied is now compared to domestic terrorists. Is this the canary in the coalmine analogy you really want to put out there?
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