Lurker > Corrik7

I dont think death claimed anything, corrik.

any reasons why?

Ok you know what, I'm getting fucking sick of this. People keep popping in calling me scummy with basically no evidence. Sultan, I'm going to ask you directly: What makes me so scummy? Describe how I've been anti-town

This reads like Corrik being frustrated as scum that the super miller claim might be allowed to live

Maybe I need a ??? stack on my list. A few people I'm not sure about.

the fact that someone used something on Han to stun him doesn't mean it was scum attacking town. could be town on town. could be town on scum. could be third party on scum. could be third party on town.

Nothing about that act means Han = Town

Also there is no reason to belive Han being stunned confirms him town.

we were told there is a 1 hour twilight period. perhaps you'll be allowed to use actions during that period? (assuming you have any, that is)

I don't think it confirms me Town.

If I get lynched today and flip Miller, what does that say about Lea? Do you think she has the balls to claim Miller as scum?

Really, the idea of this ultimate miller existing as some ultimate lesson to town to not meta at all is the most likely scenario?

Lea moved back on and fourth on Kirby several times at Ulti levels of speed. So you completely agree with a point Hb made but it could be made neutral so he's probably scum. What kind of weird logic is that? It was a good point.

There is at least one scum in Kirby/Lea, you are not convincing me otherwise. At this point I'm almost leaning both.

But also shop delayed and I'm not staying up another hour so goodnight

unless otherwise noted

My DM has been read, it seems. In due time, we shall have our answers.

... Though Lea is right. The shop exists, therefore I can't be compelled to use an action every night, right?

What do you say about that, Corrik?

I do believe Kirby being decoy and having those things but that doesn't mean town. Kirby was also trying to reach the conclusion of both him and Lea being town it seemed rather than just testing her. As red is getting at, "essentially miller" is still a weird way to describe Miller Decoy.

Man, I don't want to meta and I don't need to either, but man Miller Decoy would be cruel.

This just sounds like headcanon theorycrafting nonsense. Would you please shut up and wait for me to hear back from Isquen before speaking in absolutes like "a town role HAS to be compelled to act"

If he is town, his role has to be compelled to act. The whole point for the role is to be anti-town and appear scummy and confuse scanners. If he is scum, it is to screw up items, scanners, and what not.

(and mechanically I suppose a defaulted illusion target would make it so that Kirby is seen... visiting himself?)

I've understood Corrik perfectly. He's arguing that Kirby's role makes absolutely no sense as town if it's not obligate, and since he never mentioned it being obligate he's probably scum. Do I have this right?

Corrik I dont know why its so hard to parse.
Kirby is claiming his power has two targets, he said so from the very start.
What you are lost about is that he was talking about the second target automatically going towards him if he doesnt pick one. (Not the first target: the illusion maker)

You need to read.

If I make an illusion AND DON'T SPECIFY A TARGET AFTER MAKING THE ILLUSION, the ILLUSION THAT I JUST CREATED visits me by default.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID

I don't know if I'm compelled. I'm asking the host this.

If anything, I'm compelled to PICK A TARGET FOR THE SUMMONED ILLUSION, and if I don't pick a target, THE ILLUSION DEFAULTS TO VISITING ME.

I'm seriously not trying to escalate this further, but what the hell is so confusing about this? You clearly misread my initial post.

I...

What?

If I don't make an illusion, what the fuck do you mean "who is the illusion visiting me"? I would presume that if I can choose not to make an illusion, THEN THERE IS NO ILLUSION THAT VISITS ANYBODY.

Ya dingus

My ability makes illusions of people, and those illusions visit other people at my behest.

Suppose I make an illusion of Corrik. I tell the illusion to visit chang. Thus, it will appear as if you (Corrik) visited chang.

Suppose I make an illusion of Corrik, but I don't specify who the illusion should visit. By default, it will visit me. So it will appear as if you (Corrik) visited me.

Does that make sense? Idk why Isquen specifically mentioned that condition.

Anyway, I'll go DM Isquen regarding those actions. Hard to do all of this on my phone.

I had to make sure I wasn't just being bad at articulating. If I don't specify a target for the illusion to visit, then the illusion visits me. That's what I was told.

Am I just confusing, or does Corrik not read?

You know, that's a good question. I never considered just... not using my ability, and I didn't ask if it was mandatory or not. All I know is that if I don't specify a target, then the illusion defaults to visiting me.