Lurker > Corrik7

I think he has 3 votes.

We could probably get the next day up tomorrow if people vote now.

Radix posted...

no smash bros courtesy of nintendo

What did you expect when Sony bought Evo?

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Well aside from the fact I don't think scum ulti goes after town red like that, he has come off to me as extremely genuine and willing to help. I have known scum ulti to play up his unlikable persona much more than he did eod1. Additionally, death's vote on him day 1 is all but clearing.

To be clear, Deaths vote does not clear Ulti. At all. And Chris knows this.

PunishedBen posted...

That's Chris. You can tell because he said "tbqh", which I have noticed Chris has said at least like 60 times this game.

I heard he only says that when he is scum tbqh.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I have a very hard time between new and scum, and always have. I give you far more credit as a player than Muyo.

You have been very inconsistent with your new player credit this game.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

PrOpEr PeRsPeCtIvE

Correct.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Well clearly it does because they didn't use a strongman on me n1 because they thought I was vanilla.

Checkmate

They didn't use it on you because you are scum. Lol. Your not speaking from your proper perspective as town.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Yes, so that scum would not brutally murder me night one like they usually do.

In fact my claim really only makes sense from that regard since I wasn't pressured at all but yeah

They have a strongman. They could have brutally murdered you at any time. In fact, you unclaimed is the most obvious save target and has gotten you through night 1 on that alone. Not knowing how to get you beyond protection. Your logic does not line up, Chris.

ScareChan posted...

I hope you appologized Chris

Funny part is Chris knew he was scum all the time. Lolol.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

But yes let me claim Lissa, town vanilla as Chrom's sister and cleric that would have disguised me perfectly lmao

You never had to claim. That again is the thing. You were never under any pressure to actually claim. You chose to.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I breadcrumbed Lissa before I ever even claimed or before I knew there was a scanner zzz

You fished for Lissa, yes. Breadcrumb means you used the name in a way that someone wouldn't outright see it unless they could follow the dots to get to it, which good scum can fake breadcrumbs anyways.

Most notable breadcrumbs is the first letter of each of your first posts spelling the name out or such. Outright saying the name isn't a breadcrumb. Its bait. You were looking for someone to take it.

Rule of 3 is literally the dumbest thing I have ever heard. It only really applies to someone in their first couple of games of scum.

I'd argue every argument here in your favor for being scum is stronger than the argument you have made about anyone else today. That is before your role clearly doesn't fit, you changing your flavor in the face of a possible scan, and also saying as doctor you possibly claimed a used flavor that would have imploded town day 1.

Every angle points to you being scum. Every single one.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

For the record I have never tried to say I got Death to claim, <_<

It's the fact you felt compelled to do stuff after I said I noticed you not taking part in the claim on someone who was indeed scum.

I think tomorrow everyone is gonna be claiming and explaining their roles fully. At that point, everything should make sense.

Oh I actually led the Death claim brigade. Not you. Haha. During it, Chris, you didn't get involved enough to the point I called you out and said I see you. It is only after we got scum Deaths claim and I said I noticed you not taking part that you go wild getting claims later on.

ScareChan posted...

Sheep came in and voted Death off his first post because he didn't like it. You don't do that to your vig like that.

His first post day 1? That means nothing it's the joke phase. I was the hardest after Death early Day 1 until the Ulti stuff and Chris shotgunning phase started. In fact, Chris was arguably even gaslighting during this phase by claiming it was town behavior to claim early to him. That's not true at all and has the connotation if you don't succumb to his demand that you are scum.

Was Death the one he immediately cleared as town for quick claiming? Or was that red?

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Why did Death vote for Ulti EOD 1 when I was trying to save Ulti then

It's a fair point in Ultis favor, but Death also didn't do a late enough vote and kept posting fake votals. Sure maybe just pure accident but if the deadline was 7pm like I thought then I accidentally lynched IGCD instead of tying it to Ulti. I am not entirely convinced Death wouldn't have flipped last second if he needed to or in an OT.

It doesn't clear Ulti at all. You being scum and puppeteering away from his lynch is more damning than what Death did. Maybe you wanted the unclaimed player. Thats possible and a fair point in ultis favor also. But, Ultis bungled format of his claim didn't speak to him being Vanilla as he claimed either.

Chris, Ulti, and Muyo are probably the last 3 scum. Outside chance chang.

What really disgusts me would be if Sheep and Chang were scum together but there is basically 0.1% chance at that.

ScareChan posted...

Is this what it's like to read one of my down the rabbit hole posts?

I honestly don't know what he is doing. If I wasn't 100% sure Chris is scum, I would be paranoid that Sheep was lining up mislynches for after he flips.

The weirdest thing is that Chris is definitely scum, yet he is looking for people that supposedly would be scum if he were town, instead of his scummates. Which is just odd. It almost reeks of scum putting in fake content and trying to low key establish paranoia on chris' lynch. But I have been confident sheep is town so I guess it is just him being weird.

Sheep007 posted...

oh god if Chris is town last scum after Corrik/Muyo is probably fucking Scare if it's not MZero god dammit

Quick reminder in case y'all need it that scum mayor IS a shit role but it does exist and Scare should not be treated as 100% confirmed if he does have it, although I think this is a very unlikely scenario. Just warning everyone because I have horrifying memories of a game where I got cop and Scum FD used mayor to kill also scum Panthera or something like that before making it to final 4.

For the record I don't think Scare is anything like scum and a lot of things have to be funky for this to be close to possible but whatever we can deal with that later

And there's also a chance that it's a three man scum team with scum mayor, Strongman Ninja or some shit and Tidus as a third party idk

Okay, that's my paranoid outburst for the day done. Thanks for listening.

Tsk tsk

Sheep007 posted...

I mean, I know it happens, hence why I'm not following Han's reads over my own despite him being the better player. But I think it'd also be dumb to completely ignore them.

Gotta take them in context.

Fun fact. Killing a strong player that's reads were off then using their wrong reads as justification for lynches after does happen a lot. Just fyi. Han didn't have the information we have today to make his reads either. You should only put so much stock in reads from before.

Is Mzero the guy who usually late in games brings it on and is insightful as town or is that panthera?

Sheep007 posted...

And I'd also like to add that there was no clear indication to us that there would be a flavour cop ability in this game at thee time he claimed, and with it being one shot and fairly weak I don't think it's too likely that scum have protection against it. If he picked a sword character fakeclaim with a sword character's flavour that's a very, very fortunate crapshoot

This is where I was going with it. A. If scum was scared of the scan they would have roleblocked it.

So B. Why didn't they if it would nail Chris? Then I remembered how gleefully he claimed basically unprompted. He wanted to claim and probably found the challenge fun.

But C. If Chang is scum, he didn't care about the scan either because his fake claim already aligned with what would come up.

In either case, I don't think scum cared about the flavor scan in any way. That's why I asked if red was roleblocked. If he wasn't then they had no way to stop it. So it becomes more was what it was instead of decision behind it.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Red hasnt officially claimed it, but hes heavily implied it.

Why would he have not claimed it? Surely scum would know who they blocked if they did.

Do we have any confirmation that a roleblocker even exists? Trying to wrap my mind around something.

Ulti what was your flavor claim again?

ChichiriMuyo posted...

Sounds like you're personally hurt by what Ulti said there

What?

UltimaterializerX posted...

Man. If Chriss buddies are Death/Corrik/MZero then its no wonder he checked out. No one could carry that team without extreme luck.

Death rolled over out of literally nowhere yesterday.

ChichiriMuyo posted...

I don't care. I still think you're scum, Corrik. And I think it's a dick move for anyone to force Chris "prove" I'm scum when they've said they're going to eliminate him anyway.

Weirder post.

I can't even tell alignment of this random tirade. It's just so weird. Lol.

ChichiriMuyo posted...

You know what, Sheep, that's just some dirty fucking shit. If you want to vote for me then do it, don't fucking ask Chris to bend over backwards to "justify" it for you. Just fucking vote for me. Oh you're X% sure of this and X% sure of that? No. No you are not. I get why people are thinking Chris looks bad here, he lied. Who hasn't? Don't twist him up like he's some kind of play thing. If you think I'm scum come at me yourself. It's not his job to prove your pet theory and get punished for it at the same time.

Weirdest post of the century.

Need a new topic

MZero posted...

Chris lynch is bad

I'll be back when I get off work

This reminds me of the Beer Bad episode from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. There is a reason why it is universally regarded as the worst show in Buffyverse existence.

TidusOfTheX posted...

Are you implying that hammering will benefit the town?

Depends on the game. Obviously not right now as I don't think everyone has even checked in yet. But, people absolutely need to stop feeding info to scum because they are bored.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I see you.

Ok James Cameron.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

This should concern everyone. Like,you are supposedly catching scum chris and you expect to be sapped? Stop trying to rush the day, scum

lol

This day serves two purposes at this point. To drag out and sap town of energy. And for people to do silly stuff like keep outing claims to the game for no reason.

nevermind i just looked it up

How does Mayor work again?

You guys are literally falling into a scum trap and claiming needlessly over and over.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Anyway scare which two fine people are my scumbuddies this game

Muyo and Ulti.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I would be remiss to not point out that spending a day training the claimed doctor really is a bad thing for town. Even if you believe I am scum there is a wealth of information and discussion that should be going on.

Just gonna spread Wifom and by now all your scumbuddies are on you already. Hell you been trying to get claims off of people already.

No it is not perfect balance then.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Actually assuming I am scum there is no protection for a night one targeted vig. As long as they avoid the auto BG and BP its a free kill. So mafia could have free access to any claimed power they like this game n1 if I am lying.

Does that really make sense?

They wouldn't know that and have to operate as if a doctor and you conveniently changed the Bulletproof to 1 shot to make your claim fit.

Nice try.

TidusOfTheX posted...

You convinced me to say it, yes, I have a protection item, it is the elixer
my third and final ability remains a mystery

Say no more. Don't give scum info. This lynch is set.

It happens.

Chris, are you in such shock from being caught you can't even process at this point??? When is the last time you lost as scum???

DoomTheGyarados posted...

No one has said why I am scum tbh

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