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Let's kill CORRIK

Something something fear something something aggression

Heh heh

I'm immune to attrition < 6 I can take my time.

Truly.

I'll wait for all vibe lists to post a vibe list

It definitely makes sense to block me. My only response to SEP arguments is basically going to be to mock him and point out how pointless it is from now on. Because it is. He's a bad faith arguer.

Announcing it to the topic after claiming I was on the moral highground is gross hypocrisy though.

I'm not saying anything that's not the truth.

You literally derailed the topic for like 70 posts cause you'd rather win an argument than discuss the point actually being made. Then made a sub argument about whether you had a history of being mean to a person (which I explained is irrelevant)

See I'm supposedly the one playing highground and he's the one blocking me.

It's cool. You were never going to get any good conversation out of me again when you basically called me a bigot because I disagreed with you on something completely unrelated to anything regarding bigotry.

Joke user, not worth taking seriously in any discussion. You can fuck right off.

HashtagSEP posted...

Yeah, not engaging is probably the best advice I can take

I hope you realize you've been the one overly focusing on "we" and the main one that shouldn't be engaged with here

I was attempting to do that with my "ok"s but after you rambled on for a page in a righteous huff about whether you were attacking Maria or not I decided to explain why it wasn't an attack on Maria and just how you are

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You can see where one attempts to engage in a serious discussion and explain what the point is and the other is continuing to try to focus on something irrelevant to win an argument

That's pretty much it.

Maria unpacked it more

SEP chose to remain pithy rather than addressing the actual point cause he would rather win

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

basically a less substantive version of the same arguments GMUN, Tom, and SeabassDebeste are laying out in greater detail

Less substantive is entirely the point. If it was more substantive there would be more to discuss.

SEP's objective in posting is to boil down an argument into something he can win, even if it's an utter bastardization of what's important in the original point. The more focus on the little part that is wrong, the higher chance of winning.

Also SEP unblock Ulti please

I'm saying they were making different points than you. You can put your fingers in your ears and lalala all you want, whatever helps you cope, but they were not laser focused on the use of "we" like you were.

I don't make assumptions about you. Have literally seen your arguments for 15 years now. More than enough data to know you just argue to win, not understand, and will literally make things up about the other person and intentionally misrepresent their point to win.

I say you were bringing focus to a largely irrelevant point to try and win the argument here because that's what you were doing. No I don't like you. That doesn't make my points about you invalid. The cause of me not liking you is because you do these things-- it's not a matter of me fabricating these things because I don't like you.

I think some people care if there is a random female, trans, Indian or Spanish NPC in a game. And then there is another set of people who pretend to care and are very loud about it.

But by and large it's a laughable #1 goal for a video game company and is being focused on entirely to try and win points back from people who think Blizzard is a company plagued by socially archiac management. Further, the people who don't care I imagine don't care at all, generally, because to them they're playing games not thinking about that at all and wouldn't care if the characters were all genderless and raceless triangles and squares if said triangles and squares were cool character designs.

I wouldn't say SEP is picking on Maria per se. SEP just has a way of not being able to see the forest for the trees when it comes to arguments. Probably doesn't even realize that the stuff Tom and GMUN are going into ("this is important to me because ___") are in fact very different points than "you used we instead of I omg!!!" No one gives a shit about whether "we" encompasses literally every gamer because that clearly wasn't the point, and trying to point out "heh I won!" when this is pointed out was hilariously oblivious. The point was that many many people do not care about this at all (even if it's not 100% of gamers, doesn't matter, it can be significantly less than 100% to be a valid discussion point) and it's a dumb #1 priority for game design because of that.

StealThisSheen posted...

Just make sure you see a doctor if your hate boner lasts for more than 4 hours.

Got em

foolm0r0n posted...

(the anime crew, every single time)

Am I a part of the anime crew

StealThisSheen posted...

Neither am I? I specifically said it was a generalizing post.

Ok

I hate to break it to you but Tom and Gmun aren't arguing pure semantics here

StealThisSheen posted...

That's quite literally not true, from the replies in this topic.

Ok

StealThisSheen posted...

"'We' is a generalizing term.'"

That's exactly the argument I thought you were making

The argument literally no one but you cares about. Good job winning that point bud.

Which now I completely understand why you're on his side here. It does sound like the kind of point you'd make to soundly win an argument

foolm0r0n posted...

You sure you didn't mean to quote-lecture Lopen about this?

I'm clearly mocking SEP here, not cheering him on

Lmao got em

He would need to use the diversity tool on his posts to speak for everybody

swirIdude posted...

Girafarig is criminally underrated.

Because it is?

Oh

Misunderstood the poll criteria then lol

For some reason I always thought girafarig was Normal/Psychic. Not sure why.

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Gameplay is actually the bigger problem with the game but the story is an active detriment and screws up Dante's character to boot

Mantis
Hela

So the big thing here is while I expect a huge run up at the end of today and Monday, there is the possibility that because BBIG is a penny stock there isn't a lot of attention on it-- many short Hedge Funds and Market Makers aren't really following the filings, thusly the main driving force in pushing it up will be two things.

1. BBIG SP going up from those who are paying attention closing short positions and/or buying, driving the price up.
2. Tyde share audit forcing naked positions to be closed immediately, driving the price up. The hints that these exist with BBIG is the abundance of Short Exempt sales and FTDs that have existed for months and months and months.
3. Remaining short positions don't necessarily close until margin called. The timing on that, I'm not really sure. Sometime before or soon after the 27th.

I just want to get that out there for anyone in this with me. Don't panic sell if it doesn't crush on Monday. Monday is a big deal, but so is May 27th, and it's probably going to take a little while to unwind it all even after. My goal is $7 next week, $10 by May 27th, with my ridiculous numbers being on the table going into June - August, as they were with OSTK. That doesn't mean it couldn't be a lot more frontloaded than I think but yeah. It's not really panic time till July.

Hence why most of my calls are in July, and the short term ones are by and large May 27th rather than May 20th.

Loki
Thor

To put it in perspective.

BBIG has basically been moving independent of the market for months now. It hardly dropped or went up from any Russia stuff or fed inflation or any of that stuff.

It has two patterns

1. Slowly bleed out until it reaches its floor of low $2s
2. Goes up on its own good news such as Adrizer deal closing, Tyde record date known, bullish ER, etc, then aggressive drop to back to around where it was to continue slowly bleeding out.

If this was really a matter of market conditions, BBIG would have gone to lower lows and been brought back up with these pieces of good news. The logical conclusion to reach is the price isn't tracking with known things about the company or market conditions.

red sox 777 posted...

it sounds like the game is easy and it isn't easy to generate returns better than an index fund.

What I said can simultaneously be true and the game can still not be easy.

It's not easy because psychology works, and because your read isn't always right.

But if your read is right and you ignore psychology, then yes it should be that easy. Those are big ifs.

I've been thrown around enough by dumb stocks that I consider myself pretty proficient at ignoring psychology at this point, so it just comes down to the read, which I have no reason to doubt because of the price-- that's falling for the psychology.

Like I have my July calls. If the stock price hasn't gone up by then, I'm not going to keep investing in it. I will accept I was wrong. My Jan 2023 calls and shares are my long investment. Those stay regardless because those aren't my squeeze investment.

My theory has always been to shoot a few months behind the dividend with calls because that's how OSTK moved. I'm not showing any signs of being closer to wrong today about anything other than the date (which is now known) than I was months ago-- the stock price doesn't have to move linearly-- last time it moved huge it moved like 2-12 in a week. So the price not having moved yet is irrelevant. The next two weeks (Monday in particular), that will be relevant. No coincidence my short term calls are 5/27 expiry, as 5/27 is the day Tyde distribution takes place (5/18 is record date).

Current Stock Price should have basically no relevance to what you think the stock price will be. The timeline should be in your head, and the justifiable stock price at that time should be in your head. The price is just psychology to trick you into selling if the news hasn't warranted the drop.

The lesson to learn with Zoom is having a moment of reflection and considering why you thought that higher stock price was warranted to begin with. Is that still the case? If it's not, and you're not selling and are averaging down, you're not learning but are instead in denial. It's the opposite of learning. But the current price shouldn't mean anything to you. News and guidance is what should mean things to you.

So you average down when there is a solid bear case to support a drop on top of the market being junk and you're learning.

I average down when the price drops and refuses to hold gains on tons of good news in filings and PRs and the company direction being way more solid than it was when I got in due to better management, and more solid earnings guidance, and I'm being conned.

Just making sure we understand each other here.

Are you sure you're not just going deeper into a con? Not sure why Zoom at higher than its current P/E makes sense-- what's the growth thesis with Microsoft Teams taking more market share and remote work decreasing over time.

I mean if you're not averaging down and not selling I'm not sure you're actually learning anything.

HeroicCrono posted...

If you had aggressively sold the spikes and bought the deep dips you'd have made a fortune in BBIG already

Not really, no. I mean I made a lot in the 2-5 run. Buying at 2, selling at 3 repeatedly wouldn't really have made that much. If it runs to even $6 next week I'll make more than I will have made by doing that over and over.

HeroicCrono posted...

the market being allegedly manipulated

This is affecting all stocks right now, not just BBIG. I think that's where your confusion is.

I don't think BBIG being pinned here is any worse than say Netflix dumping 50% on losing 100k subscribers.

If you "realize" a stock "won't ever go up" and the known information on every front aside from stock price, has only played towards your hypothesis, you shouldn't have got in the stock in the first place.

My target price and date has always been the same. My confusion has always been "why is the date moving back" and "why is the stock price moving this way based on news." Now the date is here, so that doubt is gone.

If you're someone who thinks of GME as a "legitimate investment" you should know that stock price movement should generally be ignored.

You think I'm being conned, and I think you're not learning anything practical from following the stock market. We'll see who's right.

I mean don't get me wrong I do think it's going to squeeze SUPER hard but if I was just normally investing I would still buy at this price. Even if you factor in the next round of dilution being approved (it hasn't and can't be until late June, but if you assume it will be) it's super undervalued here. Next dilution would put float to 400m if approved-- if you think Lomotif is the low end of 4b that's still $10/share.

I just think it's hilarious that you think this fraud stock that is only pumped due to the same market games that you're saying aren't happening with BBIG, is legitimately at its proper stock price.

There are plenty of retail chains that actually make money that are valued lower than GME. Do you think it should be worth more than Kohls, Nordstrom, Dillards, Wendy's, Macy's, Dine Brands, Choice Hotels, almost as much as Dominos. These are all big name chains, with lower market cap than Gamestop at 120b, most of which with bigger footprints than Gamestop that make considerably more money than Gamestop.

I also think it's hilarious that you think BBIG is worth $0 when appraisals (and frankly, just comparing to other platforms in the space, that's reasonable) have Lomotif (which BBIG owns) valued at $4-6b which would make the market cap of BBIG 8x-12x from here alone. Not to mention it owns the advertising platform for it which already generates tens of millions in revenue per year without integration with Lomotif, and it has hundreds of millions of cash on hand and no debt. Like as though I'm literally just in this for a squeeze and not because I think the company is undervalued right now.

GME was undervalued at $3, but even with a generous valuation it's probably around $20-$30 or so. In the "chain that is known but loses money" category with stuff like Bed Bath and Beyond.

HeroicCrono posted...

Can you? How? Who are you going to sell it to? Loads of SPACs are now trading way below their initial $10 price from when the SPAC was just holding cash.

Okay, so let's say, for the sake of argument, everyone is funneling out and it dumps to $5 before you can unload all of your shares.

A $0.50 dividend on a $2.50 stock is completely absurd

How low do you realistically think it can go before people who want to sell can? Because talking pure dividend value, it's completely undervalued unless you're going to say people that want to can't get out until like SP $3 ($0.30 dividend on a $2.50 stock still probably causes it to squeeze for the record-- BGFV and RKT did on dividends that were much lower on percentage)

The number is irrelevant

I have no idea why Gamestop is worth market cap of 7 billion and you don't either other than stock price. I'm not interested in tautology stock speculation.

Also it has nothing to do with Tyde's "actual value"

I'm saying you're getting a stock that you can just sell for $10 per share. That's nothing to do with speculation that's just what you get.

Respectfully, I don't respect your opinion on this because you haven't really been following the stock and were arguing Gamestop's valuation was legitimate at $200 or something.

We'll see. Right or wrong winning points here has very little value compared to the money I'll make, so I promise I won't rub it in your face if it goes to like $40, but yeah.

Dividend record date is Wednesday

Last day to buy in Monday

Why on earth would that catalyst make it go below $2. You don't know how dividends work if you think that has any chance of happening.

This is basically, even ignoring all the snafu with naked shorts and difficulty in paying out share dividends you're short, a $1 dividend (Tyde SP $10, 10:1 ratio for Tyde) on a $2.50 stock. It will run.

The Death Kite?