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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 126: Manufacturing Outrage
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 6:37:43 PM
#152
https://twitter.com/danpfeiffer/status/897926634715586561
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 126: Manufacturing Outrage
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 4:12:04 PM
#27
Jakyl25 posted...
http://www.theonion.com/graphic/panicked-john-kelly-ushers-half-naked-trump-away-p-56673

This will actually happen soon, watch

This one did!
http://www.theonion.com/graphic/trump-blasts-critics-who-judge-neo-nazi-groups-mos-56662
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 126: Manufacturing Outrage
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 3:37:03 PM
#13
Repeal and Replace dying + the Mooch was less than three weeks ago
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 126: Manufacturing Outrage
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 3:35:20 PM
#11
Suprak the Stud posted...
This past week has felt like two months.

Who knew that Nuclear Annihilation Week would lead to Nazi Week??
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TopicWhat show should I watch next
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 3:31:58 PM
#5
My Immortal posted...
Lost

Doesn't have blood & violence but doesn't get more character driven than this.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 2:46:02 PM
#451
SmartMuffin posted...
If we set up a winner-takes-all society wherein the party in power is fully able to oppress the weaker party, then yes. I would rather be the oppressor than the oppressee.

Yeah but what if we don't do that
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 2:36:26 PM
#446
Another straight white male not particularly worried about being subjugated here
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TopicJeff Zero & Leonhart in Different Houses: Life Will Change Edition [JZLF]
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 2:35:11 PM
#263
I always have to reset if I use any hint coins

Need a full count!
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 1:54:35 PM
#402
SgtSphynx posted...
https://twitter.com/HeyNickMurphy/status/897630431679582208

https://twitter.com/PresVillain/status/897522671860297728
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 1:38:42 PM
#388
Slightly before Trump's tweet:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-ceos-idUSKCN1AW23B

9 of 12 companies apparently voted to disband
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 1:35:44 PM
#384
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 1:32:33 PM
#380
The Mana Sword posted...
https://twitter.com/a_shekh0vts0v/status/897820293032497152

I believe @LordoftheMorons called it

I hope I didn't give them the idea!

We don't have any nazis lurking around here, do we?
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 6:42:36 AM
#333
Guess Trump wasn't a fan of today's WaPo:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/897763049226084352
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 5:58:05 AM
#328
LordoftheMorons posted...
Article on this:
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/trump-comments-james-fields-created-legal-headache-article-1.3414847

(Though if this summary of the relevant Supreme Court case is accurate, I don't really think the cases are comparable: http://iml.jou.ufl.edu/projects/Spring01/Woell/Sheppard.html)
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 5:53:43 AM
#326
Jakyl25 posted...
In a different twist on this subject, I wonder if there are any legal types irked by the part of Trump's conference where he's like

"Call him a terrorist, call him a murderer, whatever gets the quickest conviction."

Now of course, I think we are all in agreement that the police have the right guy and that he's guilty.

But from a procedural level, is that out of line for a President to say? Sounds like he already tried him.

Article on this:
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/trump-comments-james-fields-created-legal-headache-article-1.3414847
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 5:11:30 AM
#314
Hey now, let's not be advocating vigilante justice

Murder is unacceptable regardless of how good or bad a person the victim was.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 4:51:16 AM
#302
Wanglicious posted...

what is Skokie.
welcome to free speech.

Have there been any court cases establishing the right to armed assembly? I couldn't find anything definitive with my two minutes of googling. Obviously you separately have the right to bear arms and the right to assemble, but for the latter the government can impose restrictions (needing a permit etc); it seems feasible to me that they might also be able to constitutionally prevent the nazis from assembling an armed mob.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 4:30:28 AM
#290
This is pretty cool:

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/897601573857222656

(Also that biographical fact is now even more relevant)
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 3:43:35 AM
#253
Menu is a Brit iirc
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 3:42:18 AM
#251
Well, most people don't watch Fox, but it's the main source of news for a pretty significant portion of the population (it's one of three major cable news channels). If they're running with a particular narrative it will likely color how, I don't know, 20-30% of the country view an issue. They're not going to make the whole country accept racism as okay, but they're certainly a big part of the reason Trump's support hasn't totally collapsed (and why his base is able to rationalize away most of the dumpster fire).
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 3:32:13 AM
#246
MenuWars posted...
To rebut your fears Jakyl, each time those ideas have made it past the first stage of "nationalism approaching full blown racism" it's been because of free media blackout and propaganda. As soon as you open up discourse the vast majority always walks away from it.

It's when all your fed is lies and there's no availability for dissent that it becomes truly nightmarish. You get told something enough and it'll seep in eventually if it's not challenged.

Well, Fox's "entertainment" division is essentially running a propaganda operation to launder Trump's completely unacceptable comments. I'm sure in a few days when the polls come out you'll have 25-30% of the country saying "oh, maybe Trump didn't really say it in the best way, but his point was basically right!" (Whereas I'd guess 95%+ of the country would react to the video I posted earlier with disgust).
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/16/17 12:40:28 AM
#209
This 20 minute Vice documentary on what happened in cville is very worth watching (and also very disturbing):



By the way, @SmartMuffin, don't you regularly listen to this Cantwell guy? In this video he's literally arguing that Heather Heyer's murder was justified.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/15/17 11:37:46 PM
#190
Jakyl25 posted...
Would anyone here disagree that Trump at least SEEMED more pissed off about the Lee statue than he did about a white supremacist killing a person?

The thing he's most pissed about is that everyone is treating him "unfairly"

(And he definitely cares about that way more than the murder victim).
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/15/17 11:30:43 PM
#184
KamikazePotato posted...
Antifa is a thing but equating them to Nazis is a very flagrant use of false equivalence.

Yeah

There's also a lot of grouping in normal protestors with antifa going on
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/15/17 11:10:00 PM
#168
Moore has been removed* as Chief Justice of Alabama's State Supreme Court twice

*technically he resigned the second time, but all indications are he would have been removed again
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/15/17 11:07:08 PM
#165
Inviso posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Trump is REALLY supporting Strange, so it's good to see that the best he can manage even in a Republican primary is 32%


Isn't Roy Moore even worse?

Yeah, he's definitely worse (though it seems he may be a problem for McConnell like Rand and like the Freedom Caucus are for Ryan).

Mitch apparently spent his efforts and PAC money sinking Mo Brooks (who came in third). Brooks is a Freedom Caucus member and all around nutjob.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/15/17 11:04:39 PM
#163
Suprak the Stud posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
AL Senate primary results (to replace Sessions):

Moore and Strange advance to a runoff on the Republican side (with 40 and 32% of the vote, respectively)

Real candidate Doug Jones won outright on the Dem side, beating random guy named Robert Kennedy 64-19.


Aw man those polls with No, Not That Robert Kennedy winning handily were FAKE NEWS?

Now this is going to be all the more embarrassing when actual candidate Doug Jones loses in the general election by 50+ points.

Harry Enten from 538 had a few theories:
1. Bad likely voter screens (turnout was very low)
2. Voters researching candidates late (Jones' numbers increased quite a bit over the past week, though he also got some big name endorsements from Biden and some Alabama Dems)
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/15/17 10:58:31 PM
#154
AL Senate primary results (to replace Sessions):

Moore and Strange advance to a runoff on the Republican side (with 40 and 32% of the vote, respectively)

Real candidate Doug Jones won outright on the Dem side, beating random guy named Robert Kennedy 64-19.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/15/17 10:33:12 PM
#143
Jakyl25 posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
and there were weapon caches hidden around town


WHAT?

That's...something

Finally found an article (he mentioned it in a podcast interview):

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/14/donald-trump-charlottesville-response-washington
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/15/17 10:23:27 PM
#134
ExThaNemesis posted...
Anyway on that point, I would advise any of you that live near major cities to avoid going to any sort of political engagement for a long while.

It looks like bedlam could start at any one of them at any moment and if the Charlottesville police's handling of that situation shows you anything its that your safety is in your own hands.

According to Gov. McAuliffe the nazis were better armed than the police and there were weapon caches hidden around town

(Though I do agree that staying away from these types of events is the best course of action)
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 125: Her Name Is Heather Heyer.
LordoftheMorons
08/15/17 9:32:10 PM
#81
ExThaNemesis posted...
Not to undo any of the good will I built up by blasting Trump last topic, but you guys really haven't heard of Antifa before?

Like you just missed the part where they started violent riots in Berkley just to shut down Milo's speech? Featuring hitting some woman in the head with a pole?

Like I said, there was a time to criticize Antifa and name them and make the public aware of them. But to do it in the same breath as you're criticizing the Nazis who KILLED SOMEONE is fucking poor form.

The way I see it, it's pretty simple:

Most protestors here were doing so peacefully and weren't antifa. If you were nonviolently protesting nazis you have done absolutely nothing wrong.

Actual antifa do some shitty things (I was not a fan of their property damage here at Berkeley), BUT they have never been on the level of fucking nazis and shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 124: Still Heather Heyer. Deal with it.
LordoftheMorons
08/15/17 2:48:03 PM
#140
What's Trump down to with Republicans? 70-80 or so?

I could see it dropping to 50ish by the primaries, though he still may be able to get a plurality in that case with multiple challengers.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 124: Still Heather Heyer. Deal with it.
LordoftheMorons
08/15/17 2:20:14 PM
#138
The CBO has determined that not making the CSR payments will cost the government $200 billion over the next 10 years:

https://mobile.twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/897522471380942848
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 124: Still Heather Heyer. Deal with it.
LordoftheMorons
08/15/17 1:36:19 PM
#134
Man, I would love to hear the discussions among Republicans in Congress today

Oh actually come to think of it they're on recess. I'd love to know what they're thinking, though.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 124: Still Heather Heyer. Deal with it.
LordoftheMorons
08/14/17 11:29:26 PM
#68
Mega Mana posted...
You should read some articles, Ulti. Swift was badass.


Yep:

When Swift and her team told Mueller’s radio bosses about the alleged assault, they enclosed a photo that appeared to show Mueller with his hand behind Swift’s butt. In court this week, both parties attempted to use that photo, a sealed document that leaked last year, to prove their respective points. Swift’s side says it shows that she’s edging toward Mueller’s girlfriend and away from him, and that his hand is clearly far below her ribcage. Mueller’s attorney Gabe McFarland asked Swift why the photo shows the front of her skirt in place, not lifted up, if Mueller was reaching underneath to grab her butt. “Because my ass is located in the back of my body,” Swift replied. She offered a similar response when asked whether she saw the grope taking place. When McFarland pointed out that the photo shows Swift closer to Mueller’s girlfriend than Mueller himself, Swift answered, “Yes, she did not have her hand on my ass.”


(from http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2017/08/10/taylor_swift_s_sexual_assault_testimony_was_sharp_gutsy_and_satisfying.html)
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 124: Still Heather Heyer. Deal with it.
LordoftheMorons
08/14/17 10:50:24 PM
#50
StealThisSheen posted...
...How the hell did Swift win that case.

She said that the guy reached up her dress and grabbed her ass, and that this picture was proof:

https://images1.westword.com/imager/u/745xauto/9067327/taylor.swift.david.mueller.leaked.photo.tmz.jpg

But, uh... Even if his hand is on her ass (which that in itself seems unlikely judging by how low it is), it's definitely not reaching up her dress.

I believe there were eyewitnesses as well
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 124: Still Heather Heyer. Deal with it.
LordoftheMorons
08/14/17 10:49:28 PM
#48
From what I can tell that's all she requested in her countersuit (I've seen other articles calling the sum symbolic). I'm pretty sure it wasn't that the judge disagreed with the jury's ruling and tried to undermine it or anything.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 124: Still Heather Heyer. Deal with it.
LordoftheMorons
08/14/17 10:42:17 PM
#44
Taylor Swift won her countersuit against the creep who groped her (and his original lawsuit was dismissed):

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/entertainment/taylor-swift-verdict/index.html

Maybe Trump can be brought to justice for his serial sexual assault next

(Probably not, but I can dream!)
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TopicKCF's Top 40 JRPGs
LordoftheMorons
08/14/17 10:36:54 PM
#96
FFXII is great

(Besides Vaan who legitimately does suck)
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TopicBest Sonic Game
LordoftheMorons
08/14/17 10:24:59 PM
#21
Adventure 2 because I'm bad at 2D sonic and hate starting over from the beginning after a game over
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 124: Still Heather Heyer. Deal with it.
LordoftheMorons
08/14/17 9:47:05 PM
#42
transience posted...
hey guys remember russia

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/897229893339144193

If you read the WaPo story this doesn't really tell us much about the Trump campaign side (this dude was low level and there's no evidence that his efforts led to actual meetings), but it is even more evidence of the Russians attempting to sink their tendrils into the campaign.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 123: Heather Heyer
LordoftheMorons
08/14/17 8:10:44 PM
#483
HaRRicH posted...
Like, I'm super-happy to see it down in general, but I do sincerely wish these kinds of monuments were kept to museums so in that sense it's not right. I'm not gonna mourn too much, but this appropriate movement to remove the honor of the Confederacy in public spaces does suck in the sense that these pieces should still be available for historical study in a dedicated private space elsewhere.

I agree with this

They should be put in their proper context (i.e. this was a "significant historical figure" instead of "this was a hero"), but destruction is taking it too far (not to dismiss the legitimate grievances people have regarding symbols of the Confederacy).
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 123: Heather Heyer
LordoftheMorons
08/14/17 7:33:47 PM
#419
MenuWars posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Globalresearch.ca is a garbage site that you shouldn't be citing

(Not to defend the American prison system)


Why what's the problem with it?

It's a conspiracy theory site run by this dude:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Chossudovsky
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 123: Heather Heyer
LordoftheMorons
08/14/17 7:29:18 PM
#413
Globalresearch.ca is a garbage site that you shouldn't be citing

(Not to defend the American prison system)
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 123: Heather Heyer
LordoftheMorons
08/14/17 6:55:07 PM
#396
Would bet large sums of money that this is true:

https://twitter.com/danpfeiffer/status/897227275984281600
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 123: Heather Heyer
LordoftheMorons
08/14/17 6:24:22 PM
#371
transience posted...
http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346544-dreamhost-claims-doj-requesting-info-on-visitors-to-anti-trump-website

this is not cool

what the fuck
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 123: Heather Heyer
LordoftheMorons
08/14/17 4:03:28 PM
#296
Charlottesville murderer had a history of domestic violence against his mother:

https://apnews.com/ffec757d4c084bcda2c9ee4224e91c36/Mom-previously-accused-Charlottesville-driver-of-beating-her
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 123: Heather Heyer
LordoftheMorons
08/14/17 2:54:52 PM
#261
Corrik's been very good in his response to the nazis. Also in general, though I usually disagree with him, he argues in good faith which I can't say for certain other people.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 123: Heather Heyer
LordoftheMorons
08/14/17 2:46:13 PM
#253
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 123: Heather Heyer
LordoftheMorons
08/14/17 2:39:58 PM
#244
The Mana Sword posted...
SupremeZero posted...
A few hours ago, Daily Stormer moved to Google as their host.

A few hours later, Google has kicked Daily Stormer.

Why did they think that would work?


time for angelfire to make a comeback

Guessing they'll end up with a .ru site
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