Lurker > tennisdude818

I swam competitively, sucked, and then focused only on tennis.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

Ilove4chan posted...

Yes. If you say no you're a literal racist and also an ignorant idiot

You make a compelling case.
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gamepimp12 posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

gamepimp12 posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

They don't. But if writing a check today would mean no more affirmative action, identity politics, or race card BS, who do I make the check out to?

it wouldn't remove any of those maybe diminish some, but either way it would take a few generations for the effects to really show up.

If it's like AA, reparations would be a "temporary meansure" that never goes away. I remember seeing a video of Sowell in a debate about AA in like 1980. He was saying that it still wasn't working, and asked how many more years of failure we need to see before we move on. The liberal professor he was debating said we need to give AA more time. About 4 decades later...

I don't see AA action as a temporary measure, I don't even see it as something that was supposed to force equality, just prevent obvious cases of unequality.

Ideally reparations would act as a huge investment into black generational wealth, so the effects wouldn't show up for like 50 years

The welfare state as envisioned by LBJ is more than 50 years old and we saw how that worked. American blacks went from having stable nuclear families to off the charts single mother households.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

gamepimp12 posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

They don't. But if writing a check today would mean no more affirmative action, identity politics, or race card BS, who do I make the check out to?

it wouldn't remove any of those maybe diminish some, but either way it would take a few generations for the effects to really show up.

If it's like AA, reparations would be a "temporary meansure" that never goes away. I remember seeing a video of Sowell in a debate about AA in like 1980. He was saying that it still wasn't working, and asked how many more years of failure we need to see before we move on. The liberal professor he was debating said we need to give AA more time. About 4 decades later...
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

ArchiePeck posted...

We ****ed the place up and didn't fix it afterwards. See: the rise of IS in Iraq - that was at least in part because of how we ****ed that up after removing Saddam Hussein from power.

The Iraq situation is similar to Libya and what would happen in Syria. Afganistan appeared to be a failed state to begin with. I'm not super familiar with Afganistan though so I might get Scott Horton's new book, "Fool's Errand".
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

They don't. But if writing a check today would mean no more affirmative action, identity politics, or race card BS, who do I make the check out to?
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

AlephZero posted...

We'll be in Afghanistan for decades more. No President wants to be the one that pulls out and allows the Taliban to regain control.

I mean if the outsider who ran on "America first" isn't doing it, I don't know who will. Unreal.
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luigi13579 posted...

My only problem with that cartoon is that the calendar assumes the war will last less that 100 years.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

UnfairRepresent posted...

Jesus: "You should invite the poor into your home and help them. Share what you have, give them food and clothing, love them as you love yourself."

Conservatives: "I'm a good God-fearin' Christian don't you take mah Jesus! WWJD BABY!"

Black guy: ""You should invite the poor into your home and help them. Share what you have, give them food and clothing, love them as you love yourself."

Conservatives: "fucking racist piece of pinko shit needs to STFU! Idiot! What a moron hope he dies!"

Wanting to have control over the stuff you earn? Selfish

Demanding that other people give you what they earn? Totally not selfish at all.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

This isn't what I voted for. And when Trump pulls a 180 on foreign policy I hope his voters don't act like Obama voters and look the other way.

I think we are still there because no president wants to lose the war that was lost before it started. The war isn't as ugly as Vietnam in terms of media coverage and US casualties, so Trump is content to just keep this quagmire going for 4-8 more years.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

It would end affirmative action, which would be a good thing. Every job and college applicant in America would identify as a black woman.

Imagine, equality in a color blind society.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

Green Day
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

Highwind07 posted...

People know the difference heritage wise between the two names, right?


Right?

Asians with their last name spelled as "Li" instead of "Lee" may be able to breath a sigh of relief... for now.
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/08/22/espn-pulls-asian-american-announcer-from-virginia-football-game-because-has-confederate-generals-name.amp.html

The network's full statement: “We collectively made the decision with Robert to switch games as the tragic events in Charlottesville were unfolding, simply because of the coincidence of his name. In that moment it felt right to all parties. It's a shame that this is even a topic of conversation and we regret that who calls play-by-play for a football game has become an issue.”

How much longer before liberals demand the below statue in LA be torn down?


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Kineth posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

The illegitimacy rate in some inner cities is around 80%. Thanks goodness some statues 1000 miles away were taken down though.

Because those 2 issues are fucking related. gtfo with this lazy ass deflecting garbage.

It would be nice to see people energized over issues that matter instead of always looking to external solutions for internal problems.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

The illegitimacy rate in some inner cities is around 80%. Thanks goodness some statues 1000 miles away were taken down though.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

littlebro07 posted...

Why does a 16 year old even like Trump

Other than the obvious answer that kids generally support who their parents support

Gen Z appears to be much more conservative than millenials. Maybe kids are naturally anti establishment.
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GOATSLAYER posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

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_Squirtle_ posted...

It's just a hat

jesus christ

So if someone went to a private Jewish school wearing a swastika hat, it wouldn't be a big deal?

60 million people voted for Trump. That hat doesn't mean what Keith Olbermann tells you it means.

No offense, but I wasn't talking to you. Also, I don't know who Keith Doberman is.

I know. Sometimes I respond to terrible arguments even when the post was directed at somebody else. Olbermann is a dime a dozen "Resistance" character. Just replace his name with somebody from MSNBC.

Why would I voluntarily watch MSNBC? I feel like you're losing this argument

I'm not going to tell you how to feel. But considering the fact you compared a Trump hat to a swastika, I'm not taking your word for it.
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GOATSLAYER posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

GOATSLAYER posted...

_Squirtle_ posted...

It's just a hat

jesus christ

So if someone went to a private Jewish school wearing a swastika hat, it wouldn't be a big deal?

60 million people voted for Trump. That hat doesn't mean what Keith Olbermann tells you it means.

No offense, but I wasn't talking to you. Also, I don't know who Keith Doberman is.

I know. Sometimes I respond to terrible arguments even when the post was directed at somebody else. Olbermann is a dime a dozen "Resistance" character. Just replace his name with somebody from MSNBC.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

GOATSLAYER posted...

_Squirtle_ posted...

It's just a hat

jesus christ

So if someone went to a private Jewish school wearing a swastika hat, it wouldn't be a big deal?

60 million people voted for Trump. That hat doesn't mean what Keith Olbermann tells you it means.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

So... Trump was right again.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

cuteandkawaii posted...

CrimsonRage posted...

cuteandkawaii posted...

Jabodie posted...

cuteandkawaii posted...

IIRC its working out for Chinese immigrants pretty well.

There are some tensions rising when it comes to Chinese students at University.

As China continues to expand their influence in the region with money, don't be surprised if you see anti Chinese sentiments start rising in the next couple decades.

well then proves my point. A whole country cannot be multi-ethnic and truly successful.

Isn't your gimmick about how much you want to screw different ethnic women?

How are you gonna accomplish that if you're not in a multi-ethnic society?

I want US to be multi-ethnic. I'm not white. I'm Chilean. But let's be real. This shits not working out. It never has, and it maybe never will.

I think it could work with no welfare state and if all groups are held to the same anti-racist standards (that's my perception of Singapore btw, but maybe I'm wrong about them). But the version of multiculturalism in West today is just leftist politicians changing demographics to get more votes and virtue signal. "Come over and vote for me, I'll even make my political opponents pay your bills."
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

cuteandkawaii posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

It sounds like singapore does ok, but it's tiny. As far as I know they don't have a Singaporean version of our pop culture and academia attitude of "f*** white people" so that may keep tensions lower.

Singapore is a city though.

America is a giant ass country with different regions, cultures, etc.

Hell, going from any random rural town, to NYC, you might as well be in a different country.

America isn't getting out of this in one piece.

Yeah the US will probably split up eventually.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

cuteandkawaii posted...

Like what we are seeing with BLM, Trump, antifa is just the result. Multi-ethnic societies usually don't work. Only Canada, Australia will really work out, because they don't just let any immigrants in

It sounds like singapore does ok, but it's tiny. As far as I know they don't have a Singaporean version of our pop culture and academia attitude of "fuck white people" so that may keep tensions lower.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

They have different problems from us. They are probably the most Keynesian country in the world, so naturally they've been in a 20+ year economic slump. They are dealing with an aging population, but they aren't making the problem worse like Germany and Sweden by importing as many culturally incompatible people as possible who use a lot of welfare and fill up prisons.

They promised too many entitlements, so the yen will collapse and Japan will move on.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

If there is any value in BLM, it's that they are showing the US that racism isn't only bad when white people do it.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

No, I do not support the Alt Left.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

Homeless guys screaming at the world.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

CE no, Gfaqs yes. Back in 2005 or 2006 I got in a really cringy and stupid videogame character debate. I was too stubborn to walk away, and the other guy was unstable to begin with so he was freaking out. Not a proud moment for me even though I wasn't having the meltdown.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

I get why they play the same game. Smash 4 is fun, but it's very different from Melee. And obviously they don't use items during competitive matches.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

Samurontai posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

Waiting for the DNC to denounce socialists over this act of political violence.

Samurontai posted...

Can someone post some actual, clear evidence that the person who did this was Antifa or.... socialist (?) related?

We learned from the backlash against Trump that the condemnation must come before the facts are known.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

Waiting for the DNC to denounce socialists over this act of political violence.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

TroutPaste posted...

I know that. Capitalism is the best. I was just saying that's not able to be correlated

Here is the correlation.

Communism --> Totalitarianism --> Mass murder

Nazis were totalitarian to.
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TroutPaste posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

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KingCrabCake posted...

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M_Live posted...

Just a reminder that Nazis will always be worse. This is objective.

Nope. Antifa is communist. Communists killed about 100 million people in the 20th century. Hitler didn't hold a candle to Mao and Stalin.

Basic history 101

Capitalists have killed people
I am capitalist but there's a difference
False correlation lmao

.....wow

You can't say "political ideology = specific regime that ax-murdered people"
If they were being Stalin, Mao, Castro followers... yes, that is wrong

The American education system doesn't teach logic anymore.

You realize that Stalin and Mao weren't the only communist leaders that also just happened to be butchers, right? I realize that "the American education system" doesn't like to talk about this subject for political reasons, but if communism didn't prove itself to be a massive failure on a genocidal scale in the 20th century, I don't know what failure is supposed to look like.

A move towards capitalism on the other hand pulled hundreds of millions of Indians, Chinese and others from the 3rd world from poverty towards the middle class.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

M_Live posted...

Just a reminder that Nazis will always be worse. This is objective.

Nope. Antifa is communist. Communists killed about 100 million people in the 20th century. Hitler didn't hold a candle to Mao and Stalin.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

Donomark posted...

"If you vote for a thrid party to steal part of my paycheck every month and send it to you, that's still theft because you can't morally delegate rights you don't hold yourself."

Well, you voted and knew we were going to vote, and understood the consequences of the vote, yet you participated anyway and remained within the country, extracting benefit from it.

We have to just agree to disagree. I don't agree on the use of terminology. I don't consider the income tax to be 'stealing'.

The analogy between an errant robber and a functioning government does not work because it completely ignores the consent given by the People, the parties' (taxpayer and government) expectations, and the purpose of the taking of money. It ignores the structure that contextualizes the taking.

I don't really see the purpose of using the word 'theft' if you're not going to make a moral claim. It's less moral to have benefitted from the government all your life, stay here but not chip in, and complain afterward.

You're framing a situation where voting is like entering an optional business arrangement. It's not optional and no social contract actually exists. So the government took money from people to build roads and I use those roads. Does that show consent? Not to be melodramatic and say that my life is similar to that of a North Korean, but that's like saying if I eat prison food given to me I consent to being a prisoner.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

Notti posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

If you want me to pay for your groceries and you mug me for the money, everybody recognizes that as theft. If you vote for a thrid party to steal part of my paycheck every month and send it to you, that's still theft because you can't morally delegate rights you don't hold yourself.

The society you live in does have that right though. Did you forget what multiple people above have said and VOTE?

Oh, your policy positions are unpopular and heartless? Not voted for. Move to a state or another country then I guess.

(yes, sometimes votes even pass 51% vs 49%! So unfair to those 49%... except you don't have a better system. No regulation is the best regulation is just naive and myopic)

Obviously I was referring to voting. You're not describing anything that could be considered a universal principle unless you think anything is morally legit as long as 51% of people in a certain geographic region vote for it. I doubt you want to go down that road.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

Donomark posted...

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

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CoinBoxBaller posted...

Imagine being an ancap.

You can try to make the case that taxes are necessary. You can't make the case that they aren't theft.

Agreed. The posters here made a fair point that taxes do help your neighbor (i.e. the common good). It does help other people when the money is used properly. Unfortunately, they have not explained how it is not basically a racket, as in similar to the extortion that a gang would force on a shopkeeper for "his own protection." You either pay it or men with guns come to your house and you could end up in a cage, or you flee by leaving town, which is what many here have said is a legitimate option.

But, more to your point, I think you're making a moral case here, I have not been persuaded that taxation (or 'theft') in your eyes is immoral, inefficient, or wrong, in its own terms. It is not literally the same as a mob enforcer coercing you to provide money for protection. On the contrary, I'm eager to hear your idea of why taxation is immoral or how a government as large as the United States' is supposed to function without the 'theft' of taxation.

If you want me to pay for your groceries and you mug me for the money, everybody recognizes that as theft. If you vote for a thrid party to steal part of my paycheck every month and send it to you, that's still theft because you can't morally delegate rights you don't hold yourself.

I think the last bold part is what is really hanging you up which is understandable. It's not comfortable call violence from the government by it's true name. Libertarians are split between minarchists (minimum government, basically just cops, military, and courts) and anarchists. Neither will be achieved in our lifetimes and neither are supposed to fund a massive government with bases all over the world, a shitty public school system, and trillions in entitlements.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

CoinBoxBaller posted...

Imagine being an ancap.

You can try to make the case that taxes are necessary. You can't make the case that they aren't theft.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

Taxation isn't theft because "social contract" and infrastructure. Now I'm going to mow your lawn for $4,000 whether you like it or not and if you don't pay, men with guns will come to your house.
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Esrac posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

Strange to see 17 out especially considering how OP he is in DBS.

To be fair, they probably had the roster decided and mid-development before the newest DBS story arc. Maybe they'll add him later as DLC.

He could just be like 18 with a slightly different moveset (such as his energy shield). Maybe Arc is really trying to make all the characters different. If that's the case, I can respect keeping 17 out.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

Muffinz0rz posted...

So, can someone explain what exactly is causing this much hype for this particular DBZ fighter game?

Like there are probably a dozen other DBZ fighters, but this one seems to have everyone frothing at the mouth for it, saying it'll put Tekken and SF to shame and stuff like that.

Arc System is developing this one. That sets it apart from all the other DBZ games. These are they guys who make Guilty Gear and Blazblue. While those games aren't super popular outside of Japan, they have cult followings and are highly regarded by fighting game fans who give them a chance.

So we get a combination of a big name license and (finally) a developer who makes excellent fighting games.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

Strange to see 17 out especially considering how OP he is in DBS.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

Muffinz0rz posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

I love it when cyclists think a road without a bike lane during rush hour is their personal gym.

If traffic is at a standstill and there's a little sliver of open road between me and the curb, and I see a biker driving on that little sliver to pass everyone (even though there's a SIDEWALK on the other side of the curb in the area that I have in mind), I will inch close enough to the curb to the point where they'll have to stop when they get to me.

That would be an especially good move at a red light so you don't have to pass the same biker 6 times.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

I love it when cyclists think a road without a bike lane during rush hour is their personal gym.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

Starfox Zero by the sound of things.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell

You can visit a bunch of European countries at once.

Japan is fun though. My in-laws live there so I've been about 3 times.
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

shit, the last report i saw said no one had died

With 50 injuries, I hope the death count doesn't keep going up.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-17/van-plows-crowd-people-barcelonas-city-center-many-injured

"A terror attack took place in Barcelona when a van plowed into a crowd in Las Ramblas, killing at least 13 and injuring over 50"

"The Spanish passport of a person of Moroccan origin was found at the scene of the attack, TV3 reports."

"This would be the deadliest terrorist attack in Spain since 2004 bombing, when Islamist militants placed bombs on commuter trains in Madrid, killing 191 people and wounding more than 1,800."
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DifferentialEquation posted...

Antifa should be condemned in general. It's even okay to talk about the violence at Charlottesville from Antifa. But it wasn't their side that murdered someone and gloated about it on social media. And they don't have the same vile history in this country that the neo nazis do. Before have talking about what Antifa or other counter protestors did wrong, there should be strong and immediate condemnation of the neo nazis and the other white supremacist groups which Trump failed to do.

The history of socialism is much bloodier than the history of fascism. If "punch a Nazi" leads to a counter culture of "punch a commie", things will get much more violent.
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"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell