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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/09/17 12:32:03 PM
#498
She gained her own integrity for one thing
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/09/17 12:22:57 PM
#495
So why do you think it's better to just let the police steamroll you and sort it out later than to stand up to them when they're out of line?
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/09/17 12:16:35 PM
#493
So is it your assertion that everyone in any crash is a DUI suspect? Why would there be any suspicion of DUI at all?
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/09/17 12:10:24 PM
#491
http://ktla.com/2017/09/05/utah-hospital-changes-protocol-with-law-enforcement-after-nurse-arrest/amp/

Though the man was not a suspect in the wreck, which killed another driver, police asked for his blood to be drawn.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-nurse-arrested-20170902-story,amp.html

In the video, Wubbels, who works in the burn unit at Utah University Hospital, explains she's protecting the patient's rights and she can't take the man's blood unless he is under arrest, police have a warrant or the patient consents.

None of that applied, and the patient was not a suspect.



I can keep looking
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/09/17 12:04:27 PM
#490
Corrik posted...
You don't invoke implied consent on the person to order blood if they are not suspected of intoxication, whether you believe they are or not. He was a suspect. He wanted to draw his blood to remove him being a suspect of a crime from the equation.


He wasn't a suspect. That's the whole point. If he WAS a suspect then they could very easily get a warrant and the nurse would have to step aside.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/09/17 11:43:54 AM
#487
So you basically have no idea what actually happened
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/09/17 11:28:02 AM
#485
TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 418: McGregor vs Mayweather II in a Punjabi Prison
Jakyl25
09/09/17 11:21:30 AM
#476
Hopefully not by that dastardly Samuel Shaw
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/09/17 11:17:41 AM
#483
Trump's new Twitter header image is kind of funny IMO

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_banners/25073877/1504954675/1500x500

So phallic
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/09/17 11:10:27 AM
#482
Anyways, a lot more good was accomplished by her being arrested than would have been by her following Corrik's plan, so at least she has more of a spine than him.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/09/17 11:08:13 AM
#480
Corrik posted...

There is zero chance it would have been admissable and might have been grounds to skate the charge all together (though that case seems to be a lot more than meets the eye as far as just bringing in a suspect)


What charge? What are you talking about? This wasn't a suspect, this was a victim.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/09/17 11:07:04 AM
#478
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik, should Rosa Parks have just gone to the back of the bus?

Huh


I mean, it was the rule. What was she accomplishing by disobeying, right? Should have just voiced her complaint and complied
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/09/17 11:05:26 AM
#476
Corrik posted...
Would have been thrown out in court. Who cares if he would have or not? Was inadmissable regardless.


That's putting a LOT of trust in courts that I am not willing to grant them
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/09/17 11:03:06 AM
#473
Corrik, should Rosa Parks have just gone to the back of the bus?
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/09/17 11:01:54 AM
#471
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
So you think the Utah nurse should have acquiesced to the cop?

Yes. I don't think she accomplished much by refusing to. I think she should have made it aware that she felt she was being ordered to do what she felt was not proper before doing so however.

It would have been thrown out anyways. Hell, the person probably wish they had drawn their blood as they could have maybe skated charges all together over a technicality.


Wait, what? She didn't accomplish much? The cop didn't get the blood sample, did he?
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/09/17 10:47:06 AM
#462
https://twitter.com/sethhanlon/status/905824189696880644

House GOP blocks measure to get Trump's tax returns.

So weird
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/09/17 10:31:25 AM
#460
So you think the Utah nurse should have acquiesced to the cop?
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 418: McGregor vs Mayweather II in a Punjabi Prison
Jakyl25
09/09/17 2:43:28 AM
#473
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/09/17 2:26:42 AM
#452
https://twitter.com/williamsjon/status/906368107437891585

This is a truly amazing image. "Awesome" in the classical sense of the word.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 418: McGregor vs Mayweather II in a Punjabi Prison
Jakyl25
09/08/17 11:40:12 PM
#472
Watched some of tonight's CMLL because Dave linked to the stream.

Dragon Lee is really good!
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 8:57:32 PM
#401
JeffreyRaze posted...
To be fair, his point is that what BLM is doesn't actually matter here. If people are easily duped into thinking BLM is evil, then they aren't evil for opposing it.


This is a good post.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 8:56:49 PM
#399
Corrik posted...
It is literally two different scenarios. And, I feel confident that Jakyl was specifically referring to the 2nd scenario.


If it helps, take out "pulling a gun" and replace it with "pointing a gun"

Erratic flailing would be pointing since I assume it's finger on the trigger
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 8:38:23 PM
#393
I just want to say to Corrik that he's relying heavily on violent anti-police rhetoric as muddying BLM's cause

I wonder if you realize a lot of those are fake? Or at least not from actual BLM rallies

The one that gets passed around the most is from before BLM even existed
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 6:51:19 PM
#361
Here's a question for Corrik:

At what point would you say blacks achieved full societal equality in America? Not legal equality.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 6:47:49 PM
#360
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
If a police officer shoots someone wrongly they should be charged as a murderer and prosecuted.


And yet that almost NEVER happens, ESPECIALLY if the dead person is black...

Should happen every time regardless of the colors represented. Do you have proof of white victims having cops prosecuted in similar circumstances?


This is a fair counter. Cops rarely get arrested for murder no matter what the race of the victim is.

But still
According to the most recent census data, there are nearly 160 million more white people in America than there are black people. White people make up roughly 62 percent of the U.S. population but only about 49 percent of those who are killed by police officers. African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot and killed by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population. As The Post noted in a new analysis published last week, that means black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/11/arent-more-white-people-than-black-people-killed-by-police-yes-but-no/
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 6:39:35 PM
#357
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Corrik posted...
If a police officer shoots someone wrongly they should be charged as a murderer and prosecuted.


Honestly, when have you ever heard of this happening?


To be fair, the murderer of Philando Castile was charged and prosecuted.

But of course found Not Guilty
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 6:38:33 PM
#355
Corrik posted...
A lot of if is in response to justified shootings of criminals or suspects who did not comply to orders.


Also no one should ever be shot because they "didn't comply to orders" unless that non-compliance literally means they pulled a gun.

Most murders that attract the attention of BLM are of unarmed men.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 6:36:52 PM
#353
Corrik posted...
If a police officer shoots someone wrongly they should be charged as a murderer and prosecuted.


And yet that almost NEVER happens, ESPECIALLY if the dead person is black...
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 6:34:04 PM
#351
Not_an_Owl posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Are you arguing that Black Lives have never mattered?


THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT

YOU'RE SO CLOSE!!!!!

O.o if you are actually going to argue that...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws

oh yeah those post-civil war southern people sure did value black lives didn't they


It's not even so much the OVERT, institutionalized racism

It's also the general notion that black lives are more expendable than white lives, which is sown into the fabric of the country from birth to now.

You see it now with Hispanics and DACA. Opponents of DACA don't see them as humans, just as non-Americans that don't matter as much as white Americans
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 6:31:11 PM
#349
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Are you arguing that Black Lives have never mattered?


THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT

YOU'RE SO CLOSE!!!!!

O.o if you are actually going to argue that...


Yes! That's what we are arguing!

Black
Lives
Have
Never
Mattered
In
America
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 6:27:56 PM
#342
Corrik posted...
Are you arguing that Black Lives have never mattered?


THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT

YOU'RE SO CLOSE!!!!!
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 6:27:17 PM
#339
Corrik posted...
I don't think a police officer has killed in the name of Blue Lives Matters.


...what exactly do you think Black Lives Matter is a response to?
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 6:23:37 PM
#332
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
He's saying it's not an actual group, but the words are used as a chant to shout down Black Lives Matter

And?

What makes it racist?

"I want cake"

The teacher corrects lil johnnie...

"We all want cake".


"Black Lives Matter"

No.

"All Lives Matter"

Again it comes back to a muddled message where it supposed has silent words implied to the message which are not there.

If it is ACTUALLY named "Black Lives Matter Also", you wouldn't have that retort and an apt name to support your message.


You really think that if it was called "Black Lives Matter Also" that we wouldn't still have racists flooding out of the woodwork to shut them down?

You really are naive
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 6:21:50 PM
#329
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
but it has failed to create a proper message,


The message is "stop killing black people."

This isn't hard.

Fuck the police. Kill the pigs. Ambush in Lousiana. Ambush in Dallas.

Seems like the message is a lot more muddled than you let on.


I'm sorry that you believe the lies that conservative media feed you. I truly am.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 6:14:15 PM
#324
He's saying it's not an actual group, but the words are used as a chant to shout down Black Lives Matter
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 6:06:45 PM
#318
This page is like peak Corrik
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 6:04:43 PM
#315
Corrik posted...
but it has failed to create a proper message,


The message is "stop killing black people."

This isn't hard.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 5:59:21 PM
#311
"I'm not a feminist! That's sexist. I'm an egalitarian!"
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 5:58:31 PM
#309
Not_an_Owl posted...
Corrik posted...
Black Lives Matters is more inherently racist btw as it singles out one race of people whose lives matter. The too being understood is not a relatively good argument.

I know a lot of good people are probably involved with it, but a few have done violence in the name of Black Lives Matters because it has not done a good job at differentiating between it being a black power group and a call for civil rights group.

Arguing Blue Lives Matters, All Lives Matter are racist before Black Lives Matter just seems like a convenient argument and not a sound one.

Is the NAACP a racist organization?


You know he's gonna say yes
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 5:51:26 PM
#303
Corrik posted...
Black Lives Matters is more inherently racist btw as it singles out one race of people whose lives matter. The too being understood is not a relatively good argument.


God this is the most ignorant understanding of the world
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 5:49:08 PM
#302
Nah I think you're just naive.

Especially with regard to All Lives Matter. That's even more obviously dismissive of Black Lives Matter!

Like, what do you think the point of Black Lives Matter is, and why do you think people felt the need to respond with All Lives Matter?
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 5:35:57 PM
#296
Do you not understand how Blue Lives Matter was brought into existence as a counter-movement denial of Black Lives Matter?

Context matters!

You're looking purely at the name and not the circumstances of its existence. It's not just "supporting police."
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 4:22:22 PM
#293
TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 418: McGregor vs Mayweather II in a Punjabi Prison
Jakyl25
09/08/17 4:21:12 PM
#465
Lose a lawsuit and have to erase all Don West commentary
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 418: McGregor vs Mayweather II in a Punjabi Prison
Jakyl25
09/08/17 4:19:55 PM
#464
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Look at all of these people boycotting the unfair treatment of Jeff Jarrett!

But in a serious note, apparently GFW is going to have a WWE Network kind of thing for them. It is $7.99 a month.

Let's discuss what hilarious TNA-like thing they can do to fuck this up.


Only put up footage since the GFW name change.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 418: McGregor vs Mayweather II in a Punjabi Prison
Jakyl25
09/08/17 4:17:23 PM
#461
Lopen posted...
I mean I know there's been a lot of drama with TNA on the business end but did they do something with the product to turn everyone off too?


Maybe people don't want Eli Drake as Champion?
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 418: McGregor vs Mayweather II in a Punjabi Prison
Jakyl25
09/08/17 4:16:39 PM
#460
Seems like only yesterday we would mock TNA for being a perpetual 1.1M viewers machine on Spike for eternity
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 418: McGregor vs Mayweather II in a Punjabi Prison
Jakyl25
09/08/17 4:14:50 PM
#458
227,000 viewers for Thursday night's Impact, third lowest they have ever done on POP and 41% drop from last week


Good work Anthem
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 4:08:58 PM
#291
When you use it as a counter-movement to Black Lives Matter, it is.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 131: Deferred Action by Childish Administration
Jakyl25
09/08/17 3:45:09 PM
#289
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