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(Also I bet anyone $200 that Trump couldn't tell you what the Federalist Papers are)
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(Unrelated to Trump

Reading further, Hamilton entertains both sides of the argument that, in the singular case of the President pardoning someone for Treason, that it should also require legislative approval just in case the President is complicit. He successfully argues, to me at least, that it is much more likely to arise that a President may need to pardon someone convicted of treason ASAP in order to quell conflict. A peace offering situation, essentially, to save lives from being lost.

It never ceases to amaze me how wise most of the founders were.
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Reading the Federalist Papers section regarding the power of Presidential Pardon (#74)

Hamilton believed that Presidents would naturally be very selective in using this power, because

The reflection that the fate of a fellow-creature depended on his sole fiat, would naturally inspire scrupulousness and caution; the dread of being accused of weakness or connivance, would beget equal circumspection, though of a different kind.

I don't think the founders saw Trump coming
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yay fox
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MalcolmMasher posted...

That the President, who is supposed to be better informed than the average voter, is genuinely supposed to have authority to say "the criminal conviction of this person does not serve our national interests and I am negating it".

Where did voters come in here?

Is the President supposed to be better informed than the judge on the case?
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LordoftheMorons posted...

McCain on Arpaio:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SenJohnMcCain/status/901276851561222144

I don't think he should have acknowledged Trump having any authority to do it (as it undermines the case for, say, censure or impeachment), but otherwise good statement.

Holy shit look at that top response.

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https://twitter.com/phoenixnewtimes/status/901263384087334914

Another thread thoroughly examining and condemning Joe Arpaio's repugnantly twisted idea of law enforcement over the years, by the journalists who were there to witness it.
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I deleted a post where I was ranting about a grammatical error in the Arpaio pardon that upon second look was not an error. So that's one
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TheRock1525 posted...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-daca-idUSKCN1B52KZ

Anyone talk about Trump likely ending DACA?

He's gonna get those criminal children! Truly the real bad hombres
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As for the other investigation, even in the past few days you had the accounts of that Trump/McConnell call leak, where it's alleged Trump was yelling obscenities at Mitch for not "protecting him" from the Senate investigation.

Presumably that means they've been nosing about in his business, which is good!
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Like, I feel like the fact that we don't hear many peeps out of the Mueller investigation, either about leads drying up OR about progress being made, means he hired serious professionals who care more about getting things done right than anything else.

Whatever their investigation comes up with, or if it even comes up with nothing, I trust that they have exhausted all possible avenues of evidence.
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XIII_rocks posted...

Haven't heard much about Russia for a while either, for instance. Certainly it's not the big story anymore. Which is unreal - three months ago the former director of the FBI was saying, under oath, that Russian tampering is absolutely a thing (whether Trump was involved or not).

This is because, unlike Trump's lackeys, Mueller's people don't leak.

There is still a lot of great journalism going on, particularly at WaPo, about Trump's conflicts of interests. Heck it just came out in the last week that the Secret Service is broke because they spend so much money guarding his family, money usually spent at Trump resorts and hotels, naturally.
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Oh hey that SF rally we were talking about earlier got called off too.
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That's a bad doing
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/901188228174184448

Don't worry, Trump is monitoring the "doings" of the Hurricane
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This is...quite the thread of allegations against Arpaio
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https://twitter.com/wwm_shakespeare/status/901238993689481217

Shakespeare Criticizes Trump
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Excerpt from Gorka's resignation

He writes exactly like an alt-righter
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What's Gorka gonna do now, go join Breitbart?
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God dammit I was wrong. So angry I fucked up
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Literally above the Constitution

He certainly won't hesitate to pardon people in his campaign if he's willing to do this.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Plus I find it pretty hard to find CMLL stuff in general.

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC3lOpKjW4_j4PGXWLNTt4iQ

?
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Also the idea that Boston was "mass chaos" is weird

It's almost like they only get biased news
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SgtSphynx posted...

Found the screen grabs I saw...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIALGHTXoAAij1y.jpg

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Like, it's fucking stupid, but it is not outside the realm of possibility

It's really really stupid to think Antifa would start destroying things if there was literally no one there opposing them
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LordoftheMorons posted...

This probably isn't really a fair thing for which to assign blame to Trump, but of course this would happen:
https://twitter.com/danpfeiffer/status/901197915175010304

That's a very narrow minded look at it. In the long run, people and businesses PULLING OUT of Trump-owned spaces because of his handling of the rally has cost him more

I mean HIS KIDS, its cost HIS KIDS more, he's fully divested, surely! <_<
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I mean, as awful as they both are, relative to each other in a vacuum,

"we need to do what's necessary to keep all nations racially homogenous by eliminating non-white races from historically white countries"
is technically better than
"Whites are the master race and all brown people need to be killed."
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Kenri posted...

What's even the point of being alt-right if you denounce white supremacism and nazism?

I guess you can still hate women, but..

It's all about image and branding

That's why the "new-right" broke off from the alt-right. Too many alt-righters were being stupid about how openly racist they are, and the thought leaders in the movement could no longer associate with them and pretend it wasn't about race.

Now they CAN pretend it's not about race!
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The Mana Sword posted...

don't worry texas, easy d's got your back

https://twitter.com/TreyYingst/status/901160024696901632

Here it is on video.


https://twitter.com/ABC/status/901166628976689157

Can you imagine the "Patriots" response to Obama if he said this?

Barack Obama doesn't care about white people
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On the Berkeley one:

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Berkeley-denies-permit-for-anti-Marxism-rally-11957279.php

So that's moot
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SgtSphynx posted...

I saw something about a bunch of 4-chan trolls setting up fake rallies to try and wear down people.

For what purpose?

Ha ha we made the world so oversaturated with hate that people stopped caring!
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I have no idea how JR didn't slap him at WK 2015

I'm not a big JR booster these days but that would have been deserved
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Okay, seems like they started sketchy but as of late have cleaned their act up

From SPLC:

At his most recent rally, in Seattle on Aug. 13, Gibson openly denounced white supremacism and neo-Nazis. In subsequent interviews, he has taken lengths to explain that he now works to actively exclude them. There were no visible signs of white-nationalist members at the Seattle rally.

So that's good
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LOL the article says the one in Berkeley is calling itself an "anti-Marxist rally." They couldn't be more openly baiting Antifa to come start shit and look bad.

Gotta look into the Patriot group running the SF one.
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Yeah, Invictus and Chapman were both featured at the Charlottesville rally...
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Big alt-right rallies are planned in SF and Berkeley this weekend

Really hoping nothing bad happens

Who organized these ones? Or do you know?
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

that's not what the article says

Then why respond?
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Hey, Vacant has been a very respectable WWE Champion before.
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Stay safe Texas
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That makes sense
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Theoretically, could a ticket stay in power for 4 terms if they kept swapping which one was on top?
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UltimaterializerX posted...

I prefer the term "new right". Alt right is a term invented by Hillary and Podesta to label their opposition, of which there are some actual nazis. New Right is just a Trump-style republican.

You're not even trying anymore.

This post contains more factual information than the usual Ulti post though.
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What if they run Clinton again <_<
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HaRRicH posted...

I'd be pretty well shocked to see Kasich with a Democrat VP primary a sitting President after seeing the proven method of winning for Republicans has been to utterly disrespect Democrats. If he could get on the ticket though, it could be real interesting.

The article said they'd run as Independents
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xp1337 posted...

Snap reaction to that "unity" ticket.

no thanks

Don't get me wrong, it would be a massive improvement over the current administration. However, if Democrats can't win in 2020 I mean...

Would it really be that much dumber than them losing in 2016?
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Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Of course let's wait and see who the Dems nominate too.
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alt-right wants a white ethnostate by any means necessary

new-right wants a white ethnostate using political maneuvering
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Dancedreamer posted...

...and most liberals. I mean ideally for the democrats they take back the senate without needing a tiebreaker vote. So VP becomes absolutely worthless.

Kasich/Hickenlooper instead of Trump/Pence is a win for liberals.

Is it as big of a win as Warren/Harris or something like that? No. But it's a huge improvement.
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/901032475111116800

Few, if any, Administrations have done more in just 7 months than the Trump A. Bills passed, regulations killed, border, military, ISIS, SC!

I like how this list just degrades into nouns and letters

Also top response:

You just tweeted that Bills can't be passed because of 8 Dems. Now you says they are being passed? Dementia Much?

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Except Trump
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Dancedreamer posted...

Not a fan of Kasich, though he'd be much better than Trump.

That's the whole point!

And then a Dem VP to break Senate ties

EVERYONE WINS
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