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Didnt see any topics on it, but gangs have more or less taken control of the entire nation. They're threatening civil war and genocide if the government doesn't resign.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-68531759
More details in the article, but basically:
A prime minister unable to return, violent gangs in control of the capital and dead bodies piling up on the streets: Haiti is currently a nation about as close to a failed state as it's possible to be.
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Yeah I've heard overwhelming warnings telling people not to travel there
^ Hey now that's completely unfair!
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Absolutely sad to see. I was wondering why I was seeing so many Hatian asylum seekers and immigrants lately. I knew things were bad over there, but not THAT bad.

At the same time, I really hope we don't go over there to reestablish order, but I don't know what else can be done.
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I read earlier Marines were sent in to help get U.S personnel out from the embassy overnight.

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Huh. How do you come back from that?
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It really can't be overstated just how badly the rest of the world has failed Haiti over the course of its history.
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Didnt drumpf used to call haiti a shithole?
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Huh. How do you come back from that?

You wait for a warlord to rise from the ashes of the old country to reestablish order, then give them diplomatic recognition. I do not see any othee way, honestly.
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Yeah, the current Prime Minister planned the assassination of the last one per the judge who oversaw the case.
...I think I'm done here...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
It really can't be overstated just how badly the rest of the world has failed Haiti over the course of its history.

Haiti remains my go-to counter to every moronic conservative pointing to Venezuela as proof that socialism doesn't work.
darkace77450 posted...
Haiti remains my go-to counter to every moronic conservative pointing to Venezuela as proof that socialism doesn't work.

<_>
I've read this over 3 times and I don't get it. Haiti, the failed state, is the counter to the antisocialist argument?
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Hayame_Zero posted...
Yeah, the current Prime Minister planned the assassination of the last one per the judge who oversaw the case.
Pretty much.

Which is why I've constantly pushed back at the calls for the US to "intervene" militarily. Because those requests came from the illegitimate government of Haiti, asking us to help them quash the rightful protests to their usurpation of power via a coup.
Seriously fuck the current Haitian government and I hope the "tree of liberty" is nourished soon (which is about as vague as I can get w/ my sentiments on here, I think)
UnholyMudcrab posted...
It really can't be overstated just how badly the rest of the world has failed Haiti over the course of its history.
Not just failed, actively fucked them over for decades at a time.
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Could another country step in to temporarily take over the country, then once they have the situation under control, hand it over to a caretaker Government until elections could be held?

It just seems rather sad that the country has been in decline for decades. I wonder if Wyclef Jean & Jimmy Jean-Louis could use their celebrity status as famous Haitians to call for an end to the violence.
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Guide posted...
<_>
I've read this over 3 times and I don't get it. Haiti, the failed state, is the counter to the antisocialist argument?

Conservatives often point to Venezuela as proof that socialism doesn't work. In so doing, they ignore all the examples of successfully implemented socialist policies (particularly regarding healthcare) in other, more successful countries. By highlighting Haiti, a capitalist country screwed over by other capitalist countries, one demonstrates how flawed an argument predicated on cherrypicked examples is.
darkace77450 posted...
Conservatives often point to Venezuela as proof that socialism doesn't work. In so doing, they ignore all the examples of successfully implemented socialist policies (particularly regarding healthcare) in other, more successful countries. By highlighting Haiti, a capitalist country screwed over by other capitalist countries, one demonstrates how flawed an argument predicated on cherrypicked examples is.

That broadly makes sense. I was simply confused because arguing against capitalism is not necessarily arguing as a counter to antisocialist arguments.

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SgtBash posted...
I wonder if Wyclef Jean

This dude literally stole millions from hurricane relief charity for Haiti. Why do you want him to do anything?
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So the gang plan is to work out a pecking order first and then to woo government officials and corporations?

This is why you need strong trade unions. The people are not organized.
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Huh. How do you come back from that?

You don't. Not for a long time.
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Tyranthraxus posted...


This dude literally stole millions from hurricane relief charity for Haiti. Why do you want him to do anything?

Read & quote the rest of the post
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but conan assured me it was paradise on earth
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Yea, they've been completely fucked over by that assassination.

I'm unsure what's happening now, but the first person to rise to power was the leader of a gang and a former top police officer.
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The new president is a gang boss called Jimmy barbecue and he eats people?

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On the verge? What does a country look like if it has collapsed, then?
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
It really can't be overstated just how badly the rest of the world has failed Haiti over the course of its history.

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SgtBash posted...
Could another country step in to temporarily take over the country, then once they have the situation under control, hand it over to a caretaker Government until elections could be held?

It just seems rather sad that the country has been in decline for decades. I wonder if Wyclef Jean & Jimmy Jean-Louis could use their celebrity status as famous Haitians to call for an end to the violence.

outside intervention is why Haiti is the way it is. it has a history of leaders being assassinated or deposed all the way back to the 1500s. This is just the latest one.

the US didn't give enough aid after that major hurricane disaster a few years back(no, Trump throwing paper towels at people doesn't help rebuild after almost the whole country is destroyed). almost all the aid we sent was misused and and didn't help the people at all.
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SgtBash posted...
Could another country step in to temporarily take over the country, then once they have the situation under control, hand it over to a caretaker Government until elections could be held?
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SgtBash posted...
Could another country step in to temporarily take over the country, then once they have the situation under control, hand it over to a caretaker Government until elections could be held?


How could this possibly go wrong?

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Haiti has no natural resources to be taken.
Thats why nobody want to go intervene.

Its loss with no chance of profits.
So is the government the villain, or the gangs, or is it two crappy groups ruining it for the innocent civilians?

I know the US pretty much ruined the place years ago, but what else is going on here?
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Is this all started from the Prime Minister's murder?
Two centuries of turmoil are enough, when will Haiti break the cycle?
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Potentially Haiti has natural resources. They grow half the world velveteen oil. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysopogon_zizanioides

and they could grow other high end herbs or spices. Maybe rare orchids.

Haiti has an awesome coastline and bay. There has to be a way of turning that to an asset.

Before C Columbus it was a great place to live.
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Saw that a lot of people were posting videos online of that Barbecue guy eating someone's leg. This is fucking insane.

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Saw that a lot of people were posting videos online of that Barbecue guy eating someone's leg. This is fucking insane.
Wait for real?
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_____Cait posted...
So is the government the villain, or the gangs, or is it two crappy groups ruining it for the innocent civilians?

I know the US pretty much ruined the place years ago, but what else is going on here?
In the end, everything is the US fault, isn't it.
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_____Cait posted...
So is the government the villain, or the gangs, or is it two crappy groups ruining it for the innocent civilians?

I know the US pretty much ruined the place years ago, but what else is going on here?

When it comes to this kind of situation its almost always both sides being assholes one way or another and the only sympathetic party is those caught in the crossfire. Just like Hamas vs the IDF.

But thats just a guess. It could be different in this case. I havent looked into it.
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RadDude9000 posted...
In the end, everything is the US fault, isn't it.

Not everything. The USs history of fucking things up pales compared to the UKs.
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Verge?

The only thing its "on the verge of" is not having ANY internationally recognized "official" government until some tribal gangs fight it out and decide who gets to tell each other to do stuff.

It has been in a state of collapse for quite some time now.

Edit: seriously, feral humans are a thing there.

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If I remember right, the first nation to fuck over Haiti was France
Zikten posted...
If I remember right, the first nation to fuck over Haiti was France

Ah, cant forget France. And Spain. And Portugal. As far as general fuckery goes, not Haiti specifically.

But as far as fucking people over globally goes, the UK has gotta be up there. It was extorting other countries and stealing their resources (up to and including their literal human resources) before the US even existed.
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So Haiti has become the Somalia of the West?
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So I am reading this article on VOX news
https://www.vox.com/world-politics/2024/3/12/24098422/haiti-prime-minister-ariel-henry-resigns-gang-violence-g9

but I have never figured out who VOX is. There is a right wing Spanish party called VOX.
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