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totalnerdken posted...
Ok, so you're just going to engage in circular logic then?

You: You're engaging in X
Me: Can you show an example?
You: Your request for an example is also engaging in X.

This is like a quitencential example of bad faith posting.

*quintessential

And you of all people accusing folks of bad faith posting is absolutely laughable.

I'm not even the only one who's noticed your tendencies.
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It depends on the topic and who you're asking too. There's almost always a counter to everything. On one hand there's sealioning, and on the other hand, one who knows they don't have solid evidence could accuse the other side of sealioning to deflect. Then you go in circles and it becomes "no, you."

Another example, someone could say you're backpedaling if you change your stance, or you could not change your stance and they can say you're doubling down on being wrong. Sometimes it's not worth it.

People mostly remember the bad qualities they see in a person. You can spend hours offering detailed advice in weight loss social but have one or two silly arguments like this and be deemed a troll.
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LoveLikeJazz posted...
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A coplying? I am shockedshocked, I say!
Hmm...
BearlyWilling posted...
A coplying? I am shockedshocked, I say!
Well, not that shocked.
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Carljank posted...
Absolutely a tenlaar alt.
Lmao ok
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DnDer posted...
The default assumption of any police encounter where the accounts are differing should be that the cops are lying.

Every time.

They have proven that they will systemically, culturally, and institutionally take every opportunity to lie and abuse their authority and position in society. As a result, until we clean up and reform policing from the ground up, we should not ever give the cops benefit of the doubt in these contested cases until evidence comes to light that supports their position or statement.

They have to earn that respect and position of trust back.

Agreed. The only way to do that, IMO, is to have cameras and audio at all times. The only redactions that should come after the fact should only be personal identifying information of a suspect or witness, nothing else. The camera is the one witness that can not lie. BWC also needs more clarification in the FOIA and be universal across all state versions of FOIA. There shouldn't be any situations in which it is denied.

That's a start. Next step is replacing the conduct review process from the department control to civilians.

This also needs to happen from civilians. Always, always, always record any interaction with any government agent.
I do agree that police have earned their bad rep for the most part, although of course not every one of them is crooked or power hungry.

Its a sticky situation though because there are people who will abuse that given bias and make police out to be worse than they are. I suspect this happens less often but truly, how does anyone know who to trust?

It really should come down to cameras cameras cameras. And if thats not a possibility for whatever reason in practically 2024 then by default cops lose apparently. Why would anybody want to be a cop these days?
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It's really simple:

If the police release video within hours of the encounter then it's legit and their side of the story is an honest and accurate take of the circumstances.

If it takes the police months to release the video then they're just fucking lying because whenever they're not lying the video seems to magic into existence within moments.

So with that in mind, have the police released any cams yet?
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LoveLikeJazz posted...
there are people who will abuse that given bias and make police out to be worse than they are.

I don't know how that would be possible these days...
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why the hell did I read this as helicop crashes into LBGT bar?
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Arcanine2009 posted...
why the hell did I read this as helicop crashes into LBGT bar?
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Nothing to report here
Cops have changed the story again, from swerving to avoid a dog, to swerving to avoid a parked car, to now saying he was swerving because he was changing the radio station. They took no photos or investigate the crash scene, did not administer a breathalyzer test, and they are refusing to release bodycam footage.

New video also shows the officer running a red light as he was speeding seconds before the crash. They are also posting officers outside the bar, potentially to intimidate the place.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/18nin1q/the_police_who_crashed_into_the_lgbtq_bar_ran_a/
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CSCA33 posted...
Cops have changed the story again, from swerving to avoid a dog, to swerving to avoid a parked car, to now saying he was swerving because he was changing the radio station. They took no photos or investigate the crash scene, did not administer a breathalyzer test, and they are refusing to release bodycam footage .
Ok, so not only is everything they've said a lie, but that definitely proves that it was the cops that attacked first, not Morris.

New video also shows the officer running a red light as he was speeding seconds before the crash. They are also posting officers outside the bar, potentially to intimidate the place.
Utter fucking trash
Is the Mayor gonna do anything about this, or does the federal government need to intervene?

https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/18nin1q/the_police_who_crashed_into_the_lgbtq_bar_ran_a/
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People avoid accountability like it's got bad body odor and cooties. Those with authority can just create scapegoats and keep it pushing lol
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CSCA33 posted...
Cops have changed the story again, from swerving to avoid a dog, to swerving to avoid a parked car, to now saying he was swerving because he was changing the radio station. They took no photos or investigate the crash scene, did not administer a breathalyzer test, and they are refusing to release bodycam footage.

New video also shows the officer running a red light as he was speeding seconds before the crash. They are also posting officers outside the bar, potentially to intimidate the place.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/18nin1q/the_police_who_crashed_into_the_lgbtq_bar_ran_a/
So everything that we said from the word go turns out to be truth. It's almost like the cops are completely predictable.
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CSCA33 posted...
Cops have changed the story again, from swerving to avoid a dog, to swerving to avoid a parked car, to now saying he was swerving because he was changing the radio station. They took no photos or investigate the crash scene, did not administer a breathalyzer test, and they are refusing to release bodycam footage.

New video also shows the officer running a red light as he was speeding seconds before the crash. They are also posting officers outside the bar, potentially to intimidate the place.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/18nin1q/the_police_who_crashed_into_the_lgbtq_bar_ran_a/

Weird how quiet the sealions from earlier are about this...
But if we don't take the words of a group changing stories like underwear then we're the baddies. Just gott ignore the clear cover up like good enleminged, I mean enlighten civilians.

But I'm sure they were totally honest about the poor cop getting assaulted.
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Not sure why he changed his story again, I saw a video where it looked like he was avoiding a parked car. But we know he got distracted, and then overreacted leading him hitting the building.

The arresting the owner isnt justified either
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Murphiroth posted...
Weird how quiet the sealions from earlier are about this...
I don't think anyone who was accused of sealioning was denying that the cop's excuse(s) for crashing were bs.
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texanfan27 posted...
Not sure why he changed his story again, I saw a video where it looked like he was avoiding a parked car. But we know he got distracted, and then overreacted leading him hitting the building.

The arresting the owner isnt justified either

I could see a combo of swerving to avoid the car and changing thr radio station. No reason you'd have to swerve to avoid a parked car if your full attention was on the road.

Throw in it changing from a dog though....

Edit: just saw the video footage on another thread. If posted here I missed it. That was a helluva swerve to avoid that car. I know people that drive better drunk
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It could've been a variety of things. I think the radio station thing is unlikely though. More likely is that he was texting, but most likely I think he either dozed off at the wheel or was intoxicated, considering he ran the red light seconds before. If there's any truth to his fellow officers not administering a breath test because he appeared sober, well, no shit. Crashing head on into a fucking building will sober anybody right up. Doesn't mean they shouldn't have tested him just because of how he appeared with adrenaline pumping through him.
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streamofthesky posted...
Ok, so not only is everything they've said a lie, but that definitely proves that it was the cops that attacked first, not Morris.

Utter fucking trash
Is the Mayor gonna do anything about this, or does the federal government need to intervene?


The mayor? haha, they are usually the top bootlicker. You can't look to government to fix themselves. It can only be fixed by the governed.
Fuck these cops.
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LoveLikeJazz posted...
I don't think anyone who was accused of sealioning was denying that the cop's excuse(s) for crashing were bs.

If I followed this thread correctly (read all 23 pages) Gob was expressing doubt the cop actually said that (and thus wasn't BSing).

Ruvan22 posted...
If I followed this thread correctly (read all 23 pages) Gob was expressing doubt the cop actually said that (and thus wasn't BSing).
Do you not know about 50 posts per page or prefer not to use it?
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Update: there was no dog and bystander video has proven that the cop shoved the owner first.
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/police-crash-car-st-louis-gay-bar-arrest-co-owner-rcna130387

was the cop drunk too?

it would complete the story.
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Do you not know about 50 posts per page or prefer not to use it?

I just prefer ten since that's what I've had on since 2003. I've tried more and it just feels overwhelming
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CSCA33 posted...
Cops have changed the story again, from swerving to avoid a dog, to swerving to avoid a parked car, to now saying he was swerving because he was changing the radio station. They took no photos or investigate the crash scene, did not administer a breathalyzer test, and they are refusing to release bodycam footage.

New video also shows the officer running a red light as he was speeding seconds before the crash. They are also posting officers outside the bar, potentially to intimidate the place.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/18nin1q/the_police_who_crashed_into_the_lgbtq_bar_ran_a/

Every single cop involved in this needs to be fired, with no possibility to working in police ever again. Just fucking abhorrent.
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CoyoteTheGreat posted...
Every single cop involved in this needs to be fired, with no possibility to working in police ever again. Just fucking abhorrent.
you really think cops are gonna willingly give up their power and immunity? Not a chance
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Conflict posted...
Oinks gonna oink.
As long as people let it. Deep down people love the oink though.
Otherwise it would change pretty quickly
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DnDer posted...
Officer crashes into his building and then demands his ID, like the cop has a right to be there in the first place.
Yeah I'm no acab but this smells of bullshit

Also heard they arrested him just so they could hear him up in an alley.
shockthemonkey posted...
Oh yeah its so easy to take power away from cops
Collectively very easy indeed
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neccis posted...
Collectively very easy indeed
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shockthemonkey posted...
Oh yeah its so easy to take power away from cops
Very easy. All the cop has to do is be a GOOD cop. You know... Actually care about the communities they patrol, not abuse their power, report those who do, etc...

They'll eventually be directing traffic then directing themselves to the unemployment line.
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