..yes, assault is illegal even if the person wrongs you first.Youre assuming the police are even telling the truth about what happened.
..yes, assault is illegal even if the person wrongs you first.
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St. Louis PD might be one of the worst police departments in AmericaAs a Saint Louisan who was in both the Michael Brown and George Floyd protests, you are absolutely correct.
Officer crashes into his building and then demands his ID, like the cop has a right to be there in the first place.
Does Missouri even have a stop and identify law that could remotely justify such a ballsy move? (Not that I can really imagine it applying inside someone's business you just crashed into...)
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so uh, did they ever attempt to explain why they swerved an suv through three lanes of traffic into a storefront or are they just going to sweep that under the rug since a cop got pushed
..yes, assault is illegal even if the person wrongs you first.
scroll down like 6 more postsJust saw this (after the second post)
Any other application is a violation of the 4th amendment. So, no, police can never demand ID if you're not operating a vehicle without reasonable articulable suspicion of criminal activity.
St. Louis PD might be one of the worst police departments in America
Update: there was no dog and bystander video has proven that the cop shoved the owner first.
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/police-crash-car-st-louis-gay-bar-arrest-co-owner-rcna130387
https://twitter.com/javadesq/status/1737152152991051783Yeah... About the only way that I would view this as anything other than him explicitly doing it on purpose is if he fails some level of a drug test.
Dude was seeing imaginary dogs
yeah I should have read the whole tweet.
I'm assuming they'll have to release the dashcam/bodycam footage
It's just a guess, but it honestly seems like the cop might've been intoxicated.
He sees a dog that wasn't actually there, driving what appears to be way too fast at night, crashes, then gets aggressive after he crashes.
Idk, it's not definitive, I'm not going to say he was intoxicated for sure, but at this point, it wouldn't surprise me if he was.
The cop driving has already lied saying he swerved to avoid a dog, but the security cam on the street shows no dog.We know it's a lie because a cop wouldn't swerve to miss a dog.
Where is the swerved to avoid a dog thing coming from? Thats not anywhere in the Riverfront Times article in the OP or the more recent ABC one.That was from the original local news story. I haven't seen it repeated since then though.
That was from the original local news story. I haven't seen it repeated since then though.Ah, gotcha, the article linked in the article in the OP. Thanks.
I was thinking that too, but the added bit at the end where the cop is just hyper aggressive makes me think alcohol or something was involved.
But you know, cops are often just hyper aggressive by default. So it could've been texting as well.
On the surface this seems like crazy deflection but why are we so certain the cop will not face charges himself for crashing into the building? A big deal is made of the cop turning it around on the club owner, and yeah that's probably him deflecting as I said, but the reality is he was still an officer on duty and you can't just assault him lol or anybody for that matter. The owner is rightly pissed off but maybe he should've used his words and played it smart. Before anybody cries that I'm "victim shaming", imagine how much worse it would've been for the cop if he had been the only one in the wrong here. He'd take all the heat from all sides, there would be no way for him to deflect.
On the surface this seems like crazy deflection but why are we so certain the cop will not face charges himself for crashing into the building? A big deal is made of the cop turning it around on the club owner, and yeah that's probably him deflecting as I said, but the reality is he was still an officer on duty and you can't just assault him lol or anybody for that matter. The owner is rightly pissed off but maybe he should've used his words and played it smart. Before anybody cries that I'm "victim shaming", imagine how much worse it would've been for the cop if he had been the only one in the wrong here. He'd take all the heat from all sides, there would be no way for him to deflect.