It suddenly struck me that RE games are a great example of heteronormativity.

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I'mma be real, that might not be the right word. And this is entirely pointless meandering

I'm talking about how a lot of times people are criticized for believing two same-sex characters being attracted to one another, being accused of reading too much into things. Like Castiel and Dean from Supernatural or Bashir and Garak from Star Trek: DS9. Or the way people even try to argue away canon same-sex relationships like Ellie/Riley and Frank/Bill from the Last of Us or Korra/Asami from Legend of Korra.

But in RE, so many people just naturally pair Billy/Rebecca, Chris/Jill, and Leon/Claire when not a single one of those characters ever show any kind of attraction to one another. Leon has a romantic arc with an entirely different character and the only time we see him and Claire together after RE2 is in the Netflix show, but a lot of people still swear the two of them belong together solely because they're the male/female protagonist of a video game.

Compare it to Korra/Asami which people swear come out of nowhere, but it was at the end of a season where Korra had pushed away everyone else, spent months writing letters solely to her, and then paired up a ton. There's even a scene where Asami compliments Korra's haircut and Korra blushes. If Asami had been named Fred, that alone would have been ample evidence that they were the endgame couple.

I suppose my basic point is that Chris and Wesker were boyfriends and that's why they have so much personal animosity, thanks and good night.
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Claire in RE2R clearly wanted to fuck him
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Irony posted...
Claire in RE2R clearly wanted to fuck him

All the women want Leon tho.
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It might just be projection, but Claire has always kinda pinged as ace to me.
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Sorozone posted...
All the women want Leon tho.
Except Hunnigan
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That's just shipping culture.
FratMilkyHolme posted...
Isn't it interesting how in RE6 the two legacy characters of Leon and Chris are the leads of their campaign but for Sherry's campaign, as the legacy character she's the Player 2 of the campaign while the male newcomer Jake is the lead. Also a coincidence that the remakes they've put the most effort into are the ones with male leads while RE3R was clearly skimped and they skipped CV and 0, two female led games entirely, and it's questionable if they'll do them. Also RE7 and 8 are solely a male protagonist while the female led Revelation are spinoffs.

Even with all this, there's a section of the fanbase that's been complaining that the female characters that exist are too strong and is "cringe magical girl"
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Jake got top billing cause they were trying to please weaker fans mad at the end of RE5
The plot is still about sherry while Jake is more of a macguffin that everyone is after.

Anyway as for the topic at hand I know a lot of people who think piers had feelings for Chris
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Nemu posted...
That's just shipping culture.
Yeah and surprise surprise most people are.... you guessed it, heterosexual.
Games where the characters don't have relationships are....examples of heteronormativity?

HUH

This would be asexuality
FratMilkyHolme posted...
"cringe magical girl"

What the hell is this supposed to mean?
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Thats what I like about RE. The story is nonsense so ignore it. Just fuck up some enemies and speedrun the game
heteronormative would have been if in RE6 we find out Chris had a bunch of kids and see his family

yet none of these characters have even got with anyone in fifteen years of RE2

this is not normative at all
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WingsOfGood posted...
heteronormative would have been if in RE6 we find out Chris had a bunch of kids and see his family

yet none of these characters have even got with anyone in fifteen years of RE2

this is not normative at all

Does Ethan and Mia count?

But yeah c'mon you're not gonna get this guy to settle down with a lady

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I like to think that in a zombie virus outbreak, where you're on the brink of having the city/building/whatever constantly threatened with explosion, sex and relationships would be the last thing on the characters minds....apparently that's not the case for shippers.

Why must there be sexual relationships be in everything? Gay, straight, whatever else. There's more pressing matters at hand!
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Sometimes a straight couple is just a straight couple and not a paragon of hetero-normative culture.

Sometimes a same-sex relationship is just an author choice and not a political agenda.
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buddah86 posted...
I like to think that in a zombie virus outbreak, where you're on the brink of having the city/building/whatever constantly threatened with explosion, sex and relationships would be the last thing on the characters minds....apparently that's not the case for shippers.

Why must there be sexual relationships be in everything? Gay, straight, whatever else. There's more pressing matters at hand!

well as it turns out that his how Capcom went with it

that or they are just millennials LOL
UnholyMudcrab posted...
It might just be projection, but Claire has always kinda pinged as ace to me.

It is always projection, regardless of the sexual dynamics at play. You had that all the time back when hetero was almost always the case, but Korra and Asami were the only two to have any sort of lasting dynamic and you'd have to be blind not to see it. Like, this was before you could expect gay couples in shows as a regular thing, and it was still "Jeez, Korra and Asami would be at it if this wasn't a Nickelodeon cartoon".
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WingsOfGood posted...
Games where the characters don't have relationships are....examples of heteronormativity?

HUH

This would be asexuality

WingsOfGood posted...
heteronormative would have been if in RE6 we find out Chris had a bunch of kids and see his family

yet none of these characters have even got with anyone in fifteen years of RE2

this is not normative at all
I'm not talking about the games themselves, just portion of the fanbase where they assume these characters are/should be in relationships despite them never showing even a sliver of attraction to one another.
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pegusus123456 posted...
just portion of the fanbase where they assume these characters are/should be in relationships despite them never showing even a sliver of attraction to one another.

Shippers aren't people.
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DementedDurian posted...
What the hell is this supposed to mean?

I still want my answer questioned!
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pegusus123456 posted...
I'm not talking about the games themselves, just portion of the fanbase where they assume these characters are/should be in relationships despite them never showing even a sliver of attraction to one another.

so why do you ignore those who ship Chris and Leon? Or Claire and Jill?
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WingsOfGood posted...
so why do you ignore those who ship Chris and Leon? Or Claire and Jill?
Because that's not nearly as prevalent.

And also I don't think Claire and Jill ever meet (outside of the movies) while Leon and Chris share like one conversation in RE6? So the people who ship those characters already know they're basing it on nothing.
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pegusus123456 posted...
So the people who ship those characters already know they're basing it on nothing.

but your argument is that these are...based on nothing as well

pegusus123456 posted...
But in RE, so many people just naturally pair Billy/Rebecca, Chris/Jill, and Leon/Claire when not a single one of those characters ever show any kind of attraction to one another. Leon has a romantic arc with an entirely different character and the only time we see him and Claire together after RE2 is in the Netflix show, but a lot of people still swear the two of them belong together solely because they're the male/female protagonist of a video game.

WingsOfGood posted...
but your argument is that these are...based on nothing as well
Because people typically act like they're basing it on something.
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...is this literally just tc forgetting there aren't as many gay people as straight people
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pegusus123456 posted...
Because that's not nearly as prevalent.
Why would it be? The overwhelmingly vast majority of people are straight.
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pegusus123456 posted...
reading too much into things. Like [...] Bashir and Garak from Star Trek: DS9.

About that...
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I remember an interview with one of the re developers specifically mentioning relationships. They wanted to explore Leon/Ada more about the higher ups at Capcom shut it down. So thats why in the cg movies Ada and Leon mention other times they met where something might have happened but its vague. Much like Spider-Man, the higher ups view actual progress in the relationship as limiting. So were stuck in the endless will they or wont they plot.

its a shame.
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