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ShangDoh posted...
This is a pretty naive take on the complex dynamics of international relations. Democracy does not automatically equal "good", need I remind you of the rather...questionable actions the US committed during the Cold War and beyond? Or that the world's largest "democracy" India is a borderline clusterfuck of social inequalities and internal tension? The post-Mao China despite its authoritarian nature has managed to lift hundreds of millions of people out of poverty, an incredible accomplishment.

For most Chinese people, fancy terms like human rights doesn't put food on the table and most people there would take the stability and economic growth provided by the CCP rather than chance it with a western style democracy.

That is what makes it tough and that is why good constitutions are needed. Give some Muslim-majority countries democracy and they get even more murderous and repressive. That is a sad fact, and not bigotry. There are exceptions and that gives a small glimmer of hope.

Democracy only means freedom when people uphold it. Case in point: Here in Wisconsin Republicans got control and Gerrymandered themselves a perpetual majority in the state assembly and senate.

They lost the governorship and attorney general votes. What did they do?
Push through legislation to slash the power of both positions and also curtail early voting in a blatant attempt to suppress the votes of people who oppose them that wouldn't have made it to the polls but did vote early.

These people still have support of nearly half the state and my Republican relatives routinely used to say some people should not be allowed to vote and lament the times only land owners could vote.

Democracy is a freedom, but it can slip away when people vote to curtail it like it's going in here.


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