Current Events > I'm starting to get the impression that One Piece will... *spoilers to current*

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...eventually have the Straw Hats and Blackbeard Pirates form an alliance to take down Imu and the World Government.

These flashback chapters have REALLY established how Teech has a very, very justifiable grudge against them, and Rocks' last question of "Who frightens you [referring to Imu] more, Davy Jones or Joy Boy?" really implies that the two who carry on their wills (Teech and Luffy, respectively) will partner up to fight against them.

Can't wait to see what the fan reaction will be if the two crews end up teaming up at the end of the series instead of fighting each other, especially with all the animosity that's built up on Luffy's side (Teech himself doesn't seem to hate Luffy, but instead views him as an equal to be respected).

I mean, Luffy will definitely pair up with like minded individuals to take down larger threats, with the intention of fighting them later. Literally his connection with Kid and Law. So Luffy and Teech could fight the biggest threat before fighting each other.

Problem is Oda tries REALLY HARD not to be derivative and that ending would be so similar to Shippuden... >_>

I know Koby is kind of in the background right now, but assuming Oda hasn't written him out of the story I would expect him to be there too representing a future, less corrupt Marines. So:
Luffy = roger
Teach = Rocks
Koby = Garp

you think he's going to side with the guy directly responsible for his brothers death?

monkmith posted...

you think he's going to side with the guy directly responsible for his brothers death?

Ehhhh, his death was on the World Government IMO. Pirates fighting pirates happens all the time.

Would be funny to have a scene where they agree to team up, but they return to their pie fight and decide to cancel it.

s0nicfan posted...

I know Koby is kind of in the background right now, but assuming Oda hasn't written him out of the story I would expect him to be there too representing a future, less corrupt Marines. So:
Luffy = roger
Teach = Rocks
Koby = Garp

We're supposed to get another big war like Marineford. I imagine any lingering scores to settle will be taken care of there. I can't recall any time when Luffy has worked with someone he currently views as an enemy. If he's going to work with Blackbeard, it might be after Luffy has pummeled him. Actually that's kind of how I anticipate the finale going.

Luffy vs Blackbeard > BB Subjugated
Luffy vs Shanks > Luffy declared King of the Pirates
Luffy sets sail with shanks and bb armadas to go beat up the WG and Imu.
Buggy follows, angry at being forgotten about.
Luffy smashes mariejois / red line, uniting the oceans, and destroying / freeing fishman island.
The day is saved, everyone throws a big party.
During the party someone impresses upon luffy that being king of the world is a big responsibility.
Luffy rejects the title of king of the pirates and hands it over to Buggy

Buggy D Clown becomes king of the pirates by doing nothing.

That said Oda is one of few authors who can still pull out surprises for me so I'm probably wrong on a lot of this.

Uta posted...

I can't recall any time when Luffy has worked with someone he currently views as an enemy.

Caesar Clown

Blackbeard isn't Rocks. Blackbeard is a pretty bad person and has no good intentions. He'd likely kill Luffy. BB is pretty clear he's a power hungry revenge monster. He wants to take down IMU no matter the cost and how many people have to die. Then what? He'll be a new IMU.

Yeah but after they beat Imu Teach becomes king of the world and Luffy has to end him

Dio posted...

Blackbeard isn't Rocks. Blackbeard is a pretty bad person and has no good intentions. He'd likely kill Luffy

Is that a true characterization of Blackbeard? Luffy is not your typical pirate and so I think we get a REALLY skewed view of pirates. I would make the argument that Luffy (and his crew) and some of the people he influenced are just inherently virtuous in a profession that is not filled with virtuous people.

Even take Whitebeard who is by all accounts one of the greatest pirates to ever live. He was basically willing to kill EVERYONE to get his family member back. Is that virtuous? We love him for it cause you know, we love members of his pirate crew and all that but from the other perspective... dude came in willing to murder everyone to get his one kid back.

NOTE: I'm not arguing Blackbeard is an inherently good person either, just that I don't think you can say he is a pretty bad person. I think he is very typical of most pirates of the era.

TMOG posted...

Caesar Clown

Pretty sure he subjugated Caesar before doing any amount of team up with him. Luffy is willing to work with enemies when he's beaten up because he knows if they act out he can beat them up again. Before then he tends to focus on beating them up first.

Uta posted...

Pretty sure he subjugated Caesar before doing any amount of team up with him. Luffy is willing to work with enemies when he's beaten up because he knows if they act out he can beat them up again. Before then he tends to focus on beating them up first.

I could be wrong, but he didn't beat up Kid or Law before teaming with them. He was confident he COULD but I don't recall them having a battle?

Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...

Ehhhh, his death was on the World Government IMO. Pirates fighting pirates happens all the time.

blackbeard killed aces friend, betrayed his comrades to do it, then captured ace and turned him into the world government so he could get a position that would get him close to whitebeard during the big fight. every one of those things literally shit all over what luffy stands for.

don't think it'll be quite a frienndly alliance, more those two arriving at the same place at the same time

Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...

I could be wrong, but he didn't beat up Kid or Law before teaming with them. He was confident he COULD but I don't recall them having a battle?

Yeah but those aren't really enemies. Rival pirates sure, but Luffy's never shown an interest in beating them up or fighting them. He's gotten along well with most of the Supernova actually. Actually now that I think about it there have been a couple instances of Luffy working with bad guys. But in those cases they were working as an infiltrator (Bon Clay and that one samurai traitor).

Luffy is really good at figuring out who he needs to fight and making sure they get the beat down they deserve. Everyone else is either an ally or beneath notice (you can track this partially by whether luffy remembers their name or not. Luffy tends to use the correct name for people he has respect for). For enemies: He'll work with them only after beating them. ie: He was cool to work alongside Buggy, Crocodile, and others during Impel Down because he didn't feel threatened by them at all.

If we are going to get a BB Luffy teamup, I imagine it would only happen accidentally in the middle of the next major war, or only after Luffy has pummeled BB enough to make him apologize.

I'm fully expecting an Endgame situation with multiple factions showing up to Laugh Tale. But before Egghead, I expected Blackbeard to be the overarching main villain in the end, but I highly doubt it now.

They may not form an alliance, but they're probably going to be fighting the same people.