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jefffan 10/26/25 11:28:22 AM #1:	https://apnews.com/article/beef-prices-cattle-imports-trump-argentina-9f8e9efd6e74e958c586ea1e32797ba2 SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (AP) President Donald Trump s plan to cut record beef prices by importing more meat from Argentina is running into heated opposition from U.S. ranchers who are enjoying some rare profitable years and skepticism from experts who say the presidents move probably wouldnt lead to cheaper prices at grocery stores. The National Cattlemens Beef Association along with the Ranchers-Cattlemen Action Legal Fund United Stockgrowers of America and other farming groups who are normally some of the presidents biggest supporters all criticized Trumps idea because of what it could do to American ranchers and feedlot operators. And agricultural economists say Argentine beef accounts for such a small slice of beef imports only about 2% that even doubling that wouldnt change prices much. South Dakota rancher Brett Kenzy said he wants American consumers to determine whether beef is too expensive, not the government. And so far there is little sign that consumers are substituting chicken or other proteins for beef on their shopping lists even though the average price of a pound of ground beef hit its highest point ever at $6.32 in the latest report before the government shutdown began. *I love Make America Great Again rhetoric. I love America First rhetoric, he said. But to me this feels a lot like the failed policies of the past the free trade sourcing cheap global goods.* Several factors have sent beef prices soaring, starting with continued strong demand combined with the smallest U.S. herd size since 1961. In part, that small herd is due to years of drought and low cattle prices. Beef imports also are down overall because of the 50% tariffs that Trump imposed on Brazil, a big beef exporter, and limits on Mexico, where the country is fighting a flesh-eating pest. Even if increased imports from Argentina wont reduce prices, the idea creates uncertainty for ranchers, making them less likely to invest in raising more cattle. But economists caution that exporting too much beef could backfire for Argentina because that would drive up prices for consumers there. Its a contradiction of what we believed his new course of action was. We thought he was on the right track, said the president of R-CALF, Bill Bullard, who hoped Trumps policies would discourage imports and encourage ranchers to expand their herds. *election, he worries the trade war is hurting farmers and ranchers by driving up costs and costing them major markets like China.* I continue to see things that I dont really think are in the best interest of our country and the average citizen, Kagay said. I guess I hope he starts to see that and quits worrying about punishing opponents and winning whatever battle hes involved in, and then tries to do whats best for everybody. Ranchers are hopeful Trump will reconsider this plan. Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins said Tuesday on CNBC that the administration remains committed to helping ranchers prosper while trying to reduce consumer prices. She promised more details soon about the Argentina plan and a larger effort to reinvigorate U.S. beef production by opening up more land and opening new processing plants while securing trade deals for new markets. The administration wants ranchers to raise more cattle and produce more beef. They voted for it. So f em imo --- The Bill of Rights should be for everyone... except it isnt <cite>jefffan posted [p:986843585] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>https://apnews.com/article/beef-prices-cattle-imports-trump-argentina-9f8e9efd6e74e958c586ea1e32797ba2SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (AP) President Donald Trump s plan to cut record beef prices by importing more meat from Argentina is running into heated opposition from U.S. ranchers who are enjoying some rare profitable years and skepticism from experts who say the presidents move probably wouldnt lead to cheaper prices at grocery stores.The National Cattlemens Beef Association along with the Ranchers-Cattlemen Action Legal Fund United Stockgrowers of America and other farming groups who are normally some of the presidents biggest supporters all criticized Trumps idea because of what it could do to American ranchers and feedlot operators. And agricultural economists say Argentine beef accounts for such a small slice of beef imports only about 2% that even doubling that wouldnt change prices much. South Dakota rancher Brett Kenzy said he wants American consumers to determine whether beef is too expensive, not the government. And so far there is little sign that consumers are substituting chicken or other proteins for beef on their shopping lists even though the average price of a pound of ground beef hit its highest point ever at $6.32 in the latest report before the government shutdown began.I love Make America Great Again rhetoric. I love America First rhetoric, he said. But to me this feels a lot like the failed policies of the past the free trade sourcing cheap global goods.Several factors have sent beef prices soaring, starting with continued strong demand combined with the smallest U.S. herd size since 1961. In part, that small herd is due to years of drought and low cattle prices. Beef imports also are down overall because of the 50% tariffs that Trump imposed on Brazil, a big beef exporter, and limits on Mexico, where the country is fighting a flesh-eating pest. Even if increased imports from Argentina wont reduce prices, the idea creates uncertainty for ranchers, making them less likely to invest in raising more cattle. But economists caution that exporting too much beef could backfire for Argentina because that would drive up prices for consumers there. Its a contradiction of what we believed his new course of action was. We thought he was on the right track, said the president of R-CALF, Bill Bullard, who hoped Trumps policies would discourage imports and encourage ranchers to expand their herds.election, he worries the trade war is hurting farmers and ranchers by driving up costs and costing them major markets like China.I continue to see things that I dont really think are in the best interest of our country and the average citizen, Kagay said. I guess I hope he starts to see that and quits worrying about punishing opponents and winning whatever battle hes involved in, and then tries to do whats best for everybody. Ranchers are hopeful Trump will reconsider this plan. Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins said Tuesday on CNBC that the administration remains committed to helping ranchers prosper while trying to reduce consumer prices. She promised more details soon about the Argentina plan and a larger effort to reinvigorate U.S. beef production by opening up more land and opening new processing plants while securing trade deals for new markets. The administration wants ranchers to raise more cattle and produce more beef. They voted for it. So f em imo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX2010 10/26/25 11:32:49 AM #2:	Theyll still vote for him over a Democrat. --- NNID: ZeroXJerry <cite>ZeroX2010 posted [p:986843629] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>Theyll still vote for him over a Democrat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 10/26/25 11:32:51 AM #3:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9f5f3ae2.jpg --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:986843630] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9f5f3ae2.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BucketCat 10/26/25 11:34:12 AM #4:	jefffan posted... election, he worries the trade war is hurting farmers and ranchers by driving up costs and costing them major markets like China. I watched a video of some girl in China talking about this, she said she used to buy american beef cus it's the cheapest, but now most Chinese people are buying Australian or European beef cus it's now cheaper and has fewer additives also apparently china used to buy billions of dollars worth of soybeans from us each year, and this year it's $0 I think it's absolutely insane that for YEARS republicans were saying "sanctions on russia are bad! they'll hurt us too!" and even tucker carlson did that propaganda video at the russian stores. but now? "OMG YES TRUMP YOURE OWNING THE LIBS WITH TARIFFS YEEEEEHAWWW!!" also my conspiracy brain is thinking trump's doing this to the farmers so that they go out of business, and then his buddy larry ellison can swoop in and buy up the land for his oracle data centers (he has the money for it, trump gave him $500 billion on day one for basically unchecked AI shit) --- ? <cite>BucketCat posted [p:986843640] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>jefffan posted... </cite><quote>election, he worries the trade war is hurting farmers and ranchers by driving up costs and costing them major markets like China.</quote>I watched a video of some girl in China talking about this, she said she used to buy american beef cus it's the cheapest, but now most Chinese people are buying Australian or European beef cus it's now cheaper and has fewer additivesalso apparently china used to buy billions of dollars worth of soybeans from us each year, and this year it's $0I think it's absolutely insane that for YEARS republicans were saying "sanctions on russia are bad! they'll hurt us too!" and even tucker carlson did that propaganda video at the russian stores.but now? "OMG YES TRUMP YOURE OWNING THE LIBS WITH TARIFFS YEEEEEHAWWW!!"also my conspiracy brain is thinking trump's doing this to the farmers so that they go out of business, and then his buddy larry ellison can swoop in and buy up the land for his oracle data centers (he has the money for it, trump gave him $500 billion on day one for basically unchecked AI shit)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Boombam99 10/26/25 11:34:44 AM #5:	ZeroX2010 posted... Theyll still vote for him over a Democrat. <cite>Boombam99 posted [p:986843646] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>ZeroX2010 posted... </cite><quote>Theyll still vote for him over a Democrat.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 10/26/25 11:38:01 AM #6:	ok so a more serious post and the underlying reason for why these farmers bitch and moan about trumps tariffs but would still vote for him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=badGHJLDpP8 --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:986843665] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>ok so a more serious post and the underlying reason for why these farmers bitch and moan about trumps tariffs but would still vote for him.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=badGHJLDpP8</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jefffan 10/26/25 11:38:03 AM #7:	BucketCat posted... I watched a video of some girl in China talking about this, she said she used to buy american beef cus it's the cheapest, but now most Chinese people are buying Australian or European beef cus it's now cheaper and has fewer additives also apparently china used to buy billions of dollars worth of soybeans from us each year, and this year it's $0 I think it's absolutely insane that for YEARS republicans were saying "sanctions on russia are bad! they'll hurt us too!" and even tucker carlson did that propaganda video at the russian stores. but now? "OMG YES TRUMP YOURE OWNING THE LIBS WITH TARIFFS YEEEEEHAWWW!!" also my conspiracy brain is thinking trump's doing this to the farmers so that they go out of business, and then his buddy larry ellison can swoop in and buy up the land for his oracle data centers (he has the money for it, trump gave him $500 billion on day one for basically unchecked AI shit) There plenty of videos of farmers complaining and destroying crops on Tiktok cause they have nowhere to sell them. Its hilarious and sad. --- The Bill of Rights should be for everyone... except it isnt <cite>jefffan posted [p:986843667] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>BucketCat posted... </cite><quote>I watched a video of some girl in China talking about this, she said she used to buy american beef cus it's the cheapest, but now most Chinese people are buying Australian or European beef cus it's now cheaper and has fewer additivesalso apparently china used to buy billions of dollars worth of soybeans from us each year, and this year it's $0I think it's absolutely insane that for YEARS republicans were saying "sanctions on russia are bad! they'll hurt us too!" and even tucker carlson did that propaganda video at the russian stores.but now? "OMG YES TRUMP YOURE OWNING THE LIBS WITH TARIFFS YEEEEEHAWWW!!"also my conspiracy brain is thinking trump's doing this to the farmers so that they go out of business, and then his buddy larry ellison can swoop in and buy up the land for his oracle data centers (he has the money for it, trump gave him $500 billion on day one for basically unchecked AI shit)</quote>There plenty of videos of farmers complaining and destroying crops on Tiktok cause they have nowhere to sell them. Its hilarious and sad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 10/26/25 12:21:52 PM #8:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdWrHb8b-c0&t=211s the underlying reason why these rich ranchers and farmers vote for trump is because he makes it easier to enslave field workers. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:986844009] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdWrHb8b-c0&t=211sthe underlying reason why these rich ranchers and farmers vote for trump is because he makes it easier to enslave field workers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mercurydude 10/26/25 12:34:09 PM #9:	jefffan posted... I love Make America Great Again rhetoric. I love America First rhetoric, he said. But to me this feels a lot like the failed policies of the past the free trade sourcing cheap global goods. And that's a big part of the problem, that they voted for slogans and not based on policy. --- God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes, 'cause then you really might know what it's like to have to choose. - Everlast <cite>mercurydude posted [p:986844113] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>jefffan posted... </cite><quote>I love Make America Great Again rhetoric. I love America First rhetoric, he said. But to me this feels a lot like the failed policies of the past the free trade sourcing cheap global goods.</quote>And that's a big part of the problem, that they voted for slogans and not based on policy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 10/26/25 12:38:19 PM #10:	mercurydude posted... And that's a big part of the problem, that they voted for slogans and not based on policy. again, they voted for policy, just not the policy they want to talk about publicly. roll back H2A regulations, lower the minimum wage requirements for H2A holders, remove the threat that anyone caught violating them even after the weakening will never actually be held accountable for it. they voted for slave labor. they bitch about tariffs and dirty deals with billionaire tax havens but in the end they got what they wanted, more slavery. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:986844145] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>mercurydude posted... </cite><quote>And that's a big part of the problem, that they voted for slogans and not based on policy.</quote>again, they voted for policy, just not the policy they want to talk about publicly. roll back H2A regulations, lower the minimum wage requirements for H2A holders, remove the threat that anyone caught violating them even after the weakening will never actually be held accountable for it.they voted for slave labor. they bitch about tariffs and dirty deals with billionaire tax havens but in the end they got what they wanted, more slavery.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 10/26/25 12:47:21 PM #11:	I'll gladly buy Argentinian beef if it hurts these fuckers --- Science and Algorithms <cite>lilORANG posted [p:986844226] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>I'll gladly buy Argentinian beef if it hurts these fuckers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 10/26/25 12:48:27 PM #12:	Those folks sure do like capitalism until it's not working for them. <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:986844241] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>Those folks sure do like capitalism until it's not working for them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 10/26/25 12:50:07 PM #13:	They got what they voted for. No refunds. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:986844260] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>They got what they voted for. No refunds.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vycebrand2 10/26/25 1:23:31 PM #14:	The amount that would have to be shipped in would be huge. Its also has nothing to do price at the supermarket. I got $2 a pound for 400lb steer angus at the local cattle market. Some years the price wnt up when theres less stock and more being consumed. Throwing imported beef in the mix lowers the price for US producers. This only helps retailers. What I'm saying is support your local producers and cut out the middlemen. --- All the iron turn to rust. All the proud men turn to dust. All things time will mend <cite>vycebrand2 posted [p:986844520] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>The amount that would have to be shipped in would be huge. Its also has nothing to do price at the supermarket. I got $2 a pound for 400lb steer angus at the local cattle market. Some years the price wnt up when theres less stock and more being consumed. Throwing imported beef in the mix lowers the price for US producers. This only helps retailers.What I'm saying is support your local producers and cut out the middlemen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomClark 10/26/25 1:24:58 PM #15:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/ca682dc8.jpg --- http://i.imgur.com/6eF0W.gif <cite>TomClark posted [p:986844533] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/ca682dc8.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 10/26/25 1:28:53 PM #16:	jefffan posted... Its a contradiction of what we believed his new course of action was. We thought he was on the right track, said the president of R-CALF, Bill Bullard, who hoped Trumps policies would discourage imports and encourage ranchers to expand their herds. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b75a9d7a.jpg --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:986844569] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>jefffan posted... </cite><quote>Its a contradiction of what we believed his new course of action was. We thought he was on the right track, said the president of R-CALF, Bill Bullard, who hoped Trumps policies would discourage imports and encourage ranchers to expand their herds.</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b75a9d7a.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thermador446 10/26/25 1:32:43 PM #17:	+50% on Brazil Well, no more corned beef for the US --- "While you were wasting your time castrating a priceless antique, I was systematically feeding babies to hungry mutated puppies!" -The Monarch <cite>Thermador446 posted [p:986844603] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>+50% on BrazilWell, no more corned beef for the US</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tankboy 10/26/25 1:42:36 PM #18:	Remember that whole Bundy Standoff business? That was about ranchers thinking it was unfair to a degree that justified violence that they should have to pay to graze on Federal land. That land belongs to all of us (except Native Americans, of course [/s]), but they thought they should have special access, in addition to all the subsidies that we collectively pay them. <cite>tankboy posted [p:986844669] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>Remember that whole Bundy Standoff business? That was about ranchers thinking it was unfair to a degree that justified violence that they should have to pay to graze on Federal land. That land belongs to all of us (except Native Americans, of course [/s]), but they thought they should have special access, in addition to all the subsidies that we collectively pay them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deteled 10/26/25 1:46:18 PM #19:	You would think a farmer of all people would understand that you reap what you sow. <cite>Deteled posted [p:986844712] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>You would think a farmer of all people would understand that you reap what you sow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 10/26/25 2:53:36 PM #20:	awwwww oh no <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:986845418] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>awwwwwoh no</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 10/26/25 2:55:11 PM #21:	"We know he's going to ruin our lives and our business but... we need to own the libs on Facebook." --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsuJZx24V_A <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:986845430] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>"We know he's going to ruin our lives and our business but... we need to own the libs on Facebook."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bover_87 10/26/25 3:49:57 PM #22:	monkmith posted... ok so a more serious post and the underlying reason for why these farmers bitch and moan about trumps tariffs but would still vote for him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=badGHJLDpP8 tl;dw? --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. <cite>bover_87 posted [p:986845898] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite><quote>ok so a more serious post and the underlying reason for why these farmers bitch and moan about trumps tariffs but would still vote for him.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=badGHJLDpP8</quote>tl;dw?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 10/26/25 4:37:12 PM #23:	bover_87 posted... tl;dw? farmers knew going into the election that he'd bring back the tariff shit, its the same thing he did in the first term. but they didn't care about that, because they figured they'd get their bailouts. what they wanted is what they have gotten, the weakening of protections for H2A workers. so slave labor. the downside they seem to have forgotten is that this is second term trump. so either he doesn't give a fuck about needing to be re-elected or he plans for there never to be another election. so those bailouts they think are coming? well where's the incentive for trump to dole the out? their votes dont matter to him anymore. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:986846329] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>bover_87 posted... </cite><quote>tl;dw?</quote>farmers knew going into the election that he'd bring back the tariff shit, its the same thing he did in the first term. but they didn't care about that, because they figured they'd get their bailouts. what they wanted is what they have gotten, the weakening of protections for H2A workers. so slave labor.the downside they seem to have forgotten is that this is second term trump. so either he doesn't give a fuck about needing to be re-elected or he plans for there never to be another election. so those bailouts they think are coming? well where's the incentive for trump to dole the out? their votes dont matter to him anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 10/26/25 4:57:48 PM #24:	BucketCat posted... I watched a video of some girl in China talking about this, she said she used to buy american beef cus it's the cheapest, but now most Chinese people are buying Australian or European beef cus it's now cheaper and has fewer additives also apparently china used to buy billions of dollars worth of soybeans from us each year, and this year it's $0 I think it's absolutely insane that for YEARS republicans were saying "sanctions on russia are bad! they'll hurt us too!" and even tucker carlson did that propaganda video at the russian stores. but now? "OMG YES TRUMP YOURE OWNING THE LIBS WITH TARIFFS YEEEEEHAWWW!!" also my conspiracy brain is thinking trump's doing this to the farmers so that they go out of business, and then his buddy larry ellison can swoop in and buy up the land for his oracle data centers (he has the money for it, trump gave him $500 billion on day one for basically unchecked AI shit) China is buying soy beans from Argentina instead of the US. The US is buying beef from Argentina. I think we know whose winning this trade war. --- "So this is how liberty dies, with Thunderous applause." Padme Amidala <cite>creativerealms posted [p:986846523] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>BucketCat posted... </cite><quote>I watched a video of some girl in China talking about this, she said she used to buy american beef cus it's the cheapest, but now most Chinese people are buying Australian or European beef cus it's now cheaper and has fewer additivesalso apparently china used to buy billions of dollars worth of soybeans from us each year, and this year it's $0I think it's absolutely insane that for YEARS republicans were saying "sanctions on russia are bad! they'll hurt us too!" and even tucker carlson did that propaganda video at the russian stores.but now? "OMG YES TRUMP YOURE OWNING THE LIBS WITH TARIFFS YEEEEEHAWWW!!"also my conspiracy brain is thinking trump's doing this to the farmers so that they go out of business, and then his buddy larry ellison can swoop in and buy up the land for his oracle data centers (he has the money for it, trump gave him $500 billion on day one for basically unchecked AI shit)</quote>China is buying soy beans from Argentina instead of the US. The US is buying beef from Argentina.I think we know whose winning this trade war.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 10/27/25 11:36:35 AM #25:	ZeroX2010 posted... Theyll still vote for him over a Democrat. --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:986853456] in Ranchers o... [t:81060830]...</cite> <quote>ZeroX2010 posted... </cite><quote>Theyll still vote for him over a Democrat.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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