Current Events > I really hope Nintendo drops the moaning voice overs in the next Zelda

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ssb_yunglink2 posted...

The ones after the first maybe, but I feel like xenoblade 1 had some incredibly good voice acting

Shulk particularly

Yeah. If someone is complaint about Reyn Time then we're gonna have some problems. Man, what a bunch of jokers.

NoxObscuras posted...

Actually... Do any first party Nintendo games have full voice overs? They really seem intent on avoiding it lol

I'm assuming this is asking about games developed in-house, because there are a lot of them otherwise.

Not counting Intelligent Systems (Fire Emblem) and Monolith Soft (Xenoblade), DK Bananza recently has full VA, it's just one character that actually speaks known languages (Pauline). Metroid also has had full voice acting for a few games like Prime 3, Other M, Dread, and most likely Prime 4.

Bandit_Keith posted...

Yeah. If someone is complaint about Reyn Time then we're gonna have some problems. Man, what a bunch of jokers.

the memes ruined any positive feelings i might have once had for that

AceMos posted...

the memes ruined any positive feelings i might have once had for that

Thats not really the fault of the voice acting though

The only thing that ever threw me off from Zelda VA was the ungodly shrieks of the Great Fairies in OoT/MM. But even then it's more funny than anything.

BakonBitz posted...

I'm assuming this is asking about games developed in-house, because there are a lot of them otherwise.

Not counting Intelligent Systems (Fire Emblem) and Monolith Soft (Xenoblade), DK Bananza recently has full VA, it's just one character that actually speaks known languages (Pauline). Metroid also has had full voice acting for a few games like Prime 3, Other M, Dread, and most likely Prime 4.

Yeah I think I used the wrong word, since I wasn't counting games like Fire Emblem and Xenoblade. That's cool about Bananza though. Maybe the start of more voice work in main Nintendo character games.

Eh, it's fine. The games don't really have good stories, so whatever.

doshindude posted...

Yeah I'm really not a fan of any of the voice work in BotW, TotK, AoC, or AoI. Zelda just isn't a franchise built for VA and I really hope it just doesn't return. People who wanted the voice acting for all these years definitely ate crow.

I didn't eat crow. I like the voice acting. Its not the greatest I've ever heard but it sounds good enough and it's all I ever expected from the series.

Don't count on it ever going away at this point unless it's for a smaller 2D entry or something

Ivany2008 posted...

To be honest I hope Zelda goes back to the N64 style sounds. Something about Breath of the Wilds audio just feels off and honestly feels like a downgrade compared to previous entries. Especially the major chest/key item pick up sound. It sounds like something I'd hear on a cheap ios game.

"Hyutt! Hyahh! Haagh! Huuugh!"

NoxObscuras posted...

Xenoblade 2 specifically.

Don't forget me!

To be fair, wasn't this a bug, where certain voice lines played more than they were supposed to? I feel like I remember reading they actually fixed it in a patch.

A Nintendo game that had great dialogue and VA was Kid Icarus Uprising.

I'd also say FE 3 Houses was mostly fine.

MagnusDJL posted...

A Nintendo game that had great dialogue and VA was Kid Icarus Uprising.

I'd also say FE 3 Houses was mostly fine.

Three Houses is a good call, I think most of that was pretty good.

HashtagSEP posted...

To be fair, wasn't this a bug, where certain voice lines played more than they were supposed to? I feel like I remember reading they actually fixed it in a patch.

They did patch it, yeah. It was hilarious before they fixed it though.

NoxObscuras posted...

Actually... Do any first party Nintendo games have full voice overs? They really seem intent on avoiding it lol

The Xenoblade games do in most cutscenes.

Somewhat related: I played Hundred Line recently and was often thinking about how the game would sound to anyone within earshot; that game is full of oohs and aahs and everything in between.

BakonBitz posted...

I'm assuming this is asking about games developed in-house, because there are a lot of them otherwise.

Not counting Intelligent Systems (Fire Emblem) and Monolith Soft (Xenoblade), DK Bananza recently has full VA, it's just one character that actually speaks known languages (Pauline). Metroid also has had full voice acting for a few games like Prime 3, Other M, Dread, and most likely Prime 4.

NoxObscuras posted...

Yeah I think I used the wrong word, since I wasn't counting games like Fire Emblem and Xenoblade. That's cool about Bananza though. Maybe the start of more voice work in main Nintendo character games.

Xenoblade is first-party, so it counts as much as DK Bananza does.

I like it. It's a style choice, and I don't really agree with people who think full voice acting is a necessity.

OniLink5000 posted...

I like it. It's a style choice, and I don't really agree with people who think full voice acting is a necessity.

I agree with this, mostly. In some cases, like Fire Emblem, full voice acting makes sense. In Zelda games, where there are very few "main" characters that talk a lot, I also like the style choice they've made, instead of just every random character having (likely poor) voice acting.

sephiroth068 posted...

I didn't eat crow. I like the voice acting. Its not the greatest I've ever heard but it sounds good enough and it's all I ever expected from the series.

Don't count on it ever going away at this point unless it's for a smaller 2D entry or something

It's already gone. Echoes of Wisdom didn't use it.

It was so bad I doubt Nintendo will do that again. It was universally panned.

doshindude posted...

It's already gone. Echoes of Wisdom didn't use it.

It was so bad I doubt Nintendo will do that again. It was universally panned.

Echoes of Wisdom is a 2D-style game in which its style didn't need VA.

I'm like 90% sure that the next full 3D game will have voice acting again.

MagnusDJL posted...

A Nintendo game that had great dialogue and VA was Kid Icarus Uprising.

I'd also say FE 3 Houses was mostly fine.

HAHAHAHAHA

NO

kid icarus uprising was obnoxious with how the cast would not shut the fuck up

Moaning voice overs? What are we even talking about in here, the great fairies? The ones that have always made living rooms awkward in the 3D games besides Wind Waker?

Regardless, the big issue with the voice acting is really the terrible lip syncing. Daruk's voice is entirely disconnected from his mouth in most scenes. Nintendo also insists on Zelda's voice actress sounding like that (by her own admission), so Nintendo has some issues with directing, too.
doshindude posted...

It was universally panned.

Source: the delusions

doshindude posted...

In 2011 I literally couldn't play Skyward Sword's final few cutscenes in a room with my parents because the weirdly long scenes with Zelda screaming sound like primal sex. It was so unbelievably uncomfortable. It's in the remaster as well.

NeoBowser posted...

i know its a different studio and all. but im playing hyrule warriors de. it sounds like hentai

you people are weird

I didnt mind the voice acting for BOTW or TOTK I didnt think it was any worst than any other games I play, and it seemed like an improvement over the sounds from some of the earlier Zelda games.

snake_5036 posted...

Moaning voice overs? What are we even talking about in here, the great fairies? The ones that have always made living rooms awkward in the 3D games besides Wind Waker?

Regardless, the big issue with the voice acting is really the terrible lip syncing. Daruk's voice is entirely disconnected from his mouth in most scenes. Nintendo also insists on Zelda's voice actress sounding like that (by her own admission), so Nintendo has some issues with directing, too.

Source: the delusions

I wouldnt expect realistic lip synching from cartoony looking games. My issue is how a high production value game leaves voice acting to a select scenes. I guess they can just say the "moaning" dialogue is part of zeldas charm, but thats a lazy copout.

snake_5036 posted...

Moaning voice overs? What are we even talking about in here

Every NPC moans and grunts when you talk to them

I wish the Nintendo Defense Force could see how insane they sound when theyre defending the lack of voice acting in 2025.

This isnt a problem for anyone else. Only Nintendo. And you cant even use the excuse that theyre a Japanese company. This hasnt been a problem for Capcom, Namco, Konami for 20+ years.

Even literally small indie games have voice acting.

Evolician posted...

I wish the Nintendo Defense Force could see how insane they sound when theyre defending the lack of voice acting in 2025.

This isnt a problem for anyone else. Only Nintendo. And you cant even use the excuse that theyre a Japanese company. This hasnt been a problem for Capcom, Namco, Konami for 20+ years.

Even literally small indie games have voice acting.

very normal reaction to finding out that other people can have different opinions

Evolician posted...

I wish the Nintendo Defense Force could see how insane they sound when theyre defending the lack of voice acting in 2025.

This isnt a problem for anyone else. Only Nintendo. And you cant even use the excuse that theyre a Japanese company. This hasnt been a problem for Capcom, Namco, Konami for 20+ years.

Even literally small indie games have voice acting.

Yeah......really feels pointless trying to have a actual discussion about how much good voice acting can only enhance a game via breathing new life into a game's characters/world and whatnot.

I get the feeling that many people around here is taking wanting voices for all characters as some sort of insult towards nintendo and the way they do things thus getting a little defensive about it.

Meanwhile I'm looking at clips of final fantasy tactics' re-release and am genuinely impressed with just how much quality voice acting is nothing but benefits for it's characters (seriously that snotty and hateful argarth and smug dycedarg is something else), this setting and what was originally a silent game.

As someone that was going to skip FF tactics for now I am seriously considering going ahead and buying it because of how good a job they did with the voice acting.

Evolician posted...

I wish the Nintendo Defense Force could see how insane they sound when theyre defending the lack of voice acting in 2025.

Some of the best games of all time having no voice acting beyond generic grunts of pain. How is it insane to not care about voice acting lol

I'm getting mixed messages on what "full voice acting" means here.

Because when I think "full" voice acting, I think of, like, Bethesda games having every single character be voiced.

But it seems some people are counting games where the voice acting is only in cutscenes and special quests?

I'm confused.

M-Watcher posted...

I'm getting mixed messages on what "full voice acting" means here.

Because when I think "full" voice acting, I think of, like, Bethesda games having every single character be voiced.

But it seems some people are counting games where the voice acting is only in cutscenes and special quests?

I'm confused.

Yeah this. To me it seems the majority of Nintendo 1st party games, if they do have VA, its exclusive to important cut-scenes or might just be the first bit of dialogue in a scene or character introduction. After that its unspoken or with grunt type snippets.