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BlueBoy675
09/11/25 12:42:42 PM
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https://youtu.be/C31XYgr8gp0?si=Q9PPsLkUZgVrX6xK

My understanding was the game was mostly written in 1999, and they still somehow predicted the current age of social media and personalized algorithms. Its kinda frightening >_>

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WingsOfGood
09/11/25 12:44:04 PM
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scifi writers predicted it, Kojima or his writers were well read

but it was good media on the subject

and why Kojima gets so much praise
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__aCEr__
09/11/25 12:44:10 PM
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Kojima is a witch.

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Pikachuchupika
09/11/25 12:49:12 PM
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Kojima is a profit. Did it again with Death Stranding.
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Charged151
09/11/25 12:49:59 PM
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If only the rest of the game up to that point kept me interested enough to care. The constant disrespect toward Raiden, villains who were a step down from MGS1, and a settings/plot that weren't also as interesting as what MGS1 had had me wishing the game would just end by the point the game decided to just have its famous exposition dump (which was shortly after the Raiden running around naked stuff, which hurt to type by the way).

The bait and switch probably also made people mad who didn't know about it beforehand.

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UnfairRepresent
09/11/25 12:50:48 PM
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I mean the writing was on the wall even then.


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crayola555
09/11/25 12:51:31 PM
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MGS2 one of the goat games on ps2

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CARRRNE_ASADA
09/11/25 12:53:28 PM
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Sci fi is all about realizing that technology will always keep improving and that human greed will always be constant in humanity.

With that in mind you can predict how dystopic the future will be

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WingsOfGood
09/11/25 12:53:38 PM
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Pikachuchupika posted...
Kojima is a profit. Did it again with Death Stranding.

honestly was eerie it came out right during COVID lockdowns
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CARRRNE_ASADA
09/11/25 12:54:40 PM
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Charged151 posted...
If only the rest of the game up to that point kept me interested enough to care. The constant disrespect toward Raiden, villains who were a step down from MGS1, and a settings/plot that weren't also as interesting as what MGS1 had had me wishing the game would just end by the point the game decided to just have its famous exposition dump (which was shortly after the Raiden running around naked stuff, which hurt to type by the way).

The bait and switch probably also made people mad who didn't know about it beforehand.

Still salty after 24 years? Play it for what it is and not how it different it was from 1.


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saspa
09/11/25 12:55:44 PM
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Pikachuchupika posted...
Kojima is a profit. Did it again with Death Stranding.

now i'm curious, what did death stranding predict or display?

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frostechoes
09/11/25 12:57:53 PM
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saspa posted...
now i'm curious, what did death stranding predict or display?

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BlueBoy675
09/11/25 12:58:01 PM
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saspa posted...
now i'm curious, what did death stranding predict or display?
I am also curious as I havent played it

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crayola555
09/11/25 12:59:05 PM
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Pikachuchupika posted...
Kojima is a profit. Did it again with Death Stranding.

It's all real, Trump is just a puppet and The Patriots are materializing as we speak

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Charged151
09/11/25 1:02:23 PM
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CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
Still salty after 24 years? Play it for what it is and not how it different it was from 1.
I only played it about a year or 2 ago. The bait and switch was something I knew about so it didn't bother me. But yeah, outside 5 of which I've just played GZ, it remains my least favorite of the mainline games. Just wished it would be over with by the end and then comes the exposition barrage.

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Pikachuchupika
09/11/25 1:02:44 PM
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saspa posted...
now i'm curious, what did death stranding predict or display?

Most of the people of the world stayed inside because of a deadly disease/virus (I only played a few hours, so I don't really remember lol. I need to play it). So people like Norman Reedus work as delivery people that deliver almost anything you can think of, for the most part. It came out a few months before covid is mind boggling.
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DuuuDe14
09/11/25 1:09:30 PM
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Themes
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Kojima has been noted for predicting and exploring themes in his works years before they gained mainstream notoriety on numerous occasions, ranging from the sociological to the scientific.[177]

Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty was released on November 13, 2001. While the game received universal acclaim upon release for its gameplay and attention to detail, the plot was a divisive topic among critics, with some calling it "absurd" and "stupid".[178] Reinterpretations of the game's plot began to surface in the 2010s, with some calling it "misunderstood" in its time, eerily prescient, and "necessary for the political climate to come" for predicting some of the cultural issues of the 2010s with striking accuracy and similar concepts.[179][180] GamesRadar+ has cited the prescience of the game in relation to the FacebookCambridge Analytica data scandal and the Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections.[181] The concept of "Selection for Societal Sanity" presented in the game was one of the bases for the paper Filtration Failure: On Selection for Societal Sanity written by Adrian Mrz and published in the academic journal Kultura i Historia.[182]

In Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain, released on September 1, 2015, the Wolbachia bacteria is used to halt the reproduction of the fictional "vocal cord parasites". At the time, large-scale uses of Wolbachia to control insect-transmitted diseases like malaria and dengue only existed in simulated computational models and field-test releases in Australia.[183][184] Deployment of Wolbachia was proposed the next year at the peak of the Zika epidemic in the Americas.[183] Large-scale deployments of the Wolbachia bacteria became the most effective way to control and eradicate mosquito-related epidemics as of 2019, with successful deployments in Malaysia,[185] Singapore,[186] Sri Lanka,[187] Indonesia, Vietnam, and Brazil.[188]

Kojima's Death Stranding, released on November 8, 2019, presents a post-apocalyptic setting in which people live isolated in cities and prepper shelters, unable to go outside because of the hazardous conditions brought on by an event named the "Death Stranding". The inhabitants of the world rely on "porters", people who risk their lives making deliveries, to receive and exchange the resources they need to survive. Similarities with the COVID-19 pandemic were noted by numerous journalists in early 2020, including the game's focus on the themes of isolation, loneliness, and political divide.

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BlueBoy675
09/11/25 1:10:09 PM
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Really funny critics thought it was absurd considering were now fucking living it

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Smashingpmkns
09/11/25 1:19:34 PM
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1965947311718269341

Video glitches after Trump says "patriot" at around 00:18. Kojima forreal a demon

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BlueBoy675
09/11/25 1:21:07 PM
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La Li Lu Le Lo

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RchHomieQuanChi
09/11/25 1:21:24 PM
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Maybe we just haven't really progressed all that much as a society since the 90s.

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Pikachuchupika
09/13/25 1:39:20 AM
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Just you guys wait, vampires and psycho mantis will be possible too.

How?

Nanomachines son. Seriously.
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pegusus123456
09/13/25 1:42:32 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nNVD2g_gLt0

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Charged151
09/13/25 1:43:42 AM
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Pikachuchupika posted...
Just you guys wait, vampires and psycho mantis will be possible too.

How?

Nanomachines son. Seriously.
Vamp is whatever, but Psycho Mantis is actually a psychic. Nanomachines aren't giving us that.

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Pikachuchupika
09/13/25 1:47:13 AM
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Charged151 posted...
Vamp is whatever, but Psycho Mantis is actually a psychic. Nanomachines aren't giving us that.

I thought Mantis got his powers from nanomachines too? It's been a while.
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boxoto
09/13/25 1:48:59 AM
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Pikachuchupika posted...
I thought Mantis got his powers from nanomachines too? It's been a while.
*heavy series spoilers* we see him, as a kid, with very powerful psychic powers in Metal Gear Solid V, which was set in the early 80s

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wanderingshade
09/13/25 1:51:33 AM
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BlueBoy675 posted...
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Imagine if live nanomachine censorship was real and a secret organization just made you say hard to pronounce jibberish.

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Deteled
09/13/25 1:55:49 AM
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Pikachuchupika posted...
Kojima is a profit. Did it again with Death Stranding.
*prophet
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boxoto
09/13/25 1:59:48 AM
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I think that the foreseeing stuff with MGS2 is overstated, as online communities, early stages of social media, tabloids, etc. existed when the game was written, but props to him and his team building on those concepts in a compelling way.

he did totally prophesize stuff with Death Stranding, though, with how heavily reliant we would all be on deliveries due to a global "catastrophe" (maybe not that bad, but many people did die).

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Charged151
09/13/25 2:03:58 AM
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To be fair, the game totally predicted a President who would grab people's crotches.

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WesternMedia
09/16/25 4:27:38 AM
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Simpsons and The Onion too.

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boxoto
09/16/25 4:38:54 AM
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Charged151 posted...
To be fair, the game totally predicted a President who would grab people's crotches.
true, but at the time, we also had Bill Clinton as president, so it wouldn't have been too much of a reach.

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