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Antifar 07/28/25 7:02:00 PM #1:	https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/feb/12/immigrant-child-laborers-killed-factories-osha Statements published over the weekend by New York elected officials mark a tonal shift in how Democrats are addressing Israel and the conflict in Gaza, with Israels allies sharpening their criticism of the country. Democrats who once avoided public criticism of Israeli policy may now feel compelled to speak out amid the worsening starvation crisis. Another factor may be the political upset by Zohran Mamdani, a strident critic of Israel, in the New York City mayoral race. Rep. Ritchie Torres, one of Israels most outspoken allies in Congress, called for an end to the war and said Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahus leadership was causing irreparable damage to the U.S.-Israel relationship. New York Attorney General Tish James led a letter signed by dozens of state and city lawmakers that blasted Israels military strategy and called for sustained, unrestricted humanitarian aid to enter Gaza. The images coming out of Gaza, along with the growing outspokenness of the Democratic electorate on the issue in a longtime pro-Israel stronghold, make it harder for politicians to continue to embrace Israel without any criticism or distance, said Abe Foxman, the former longtime head of the Anti-Defamation League. Polls show that Democratic voters are increasingly sympathetic to Palestinians. In a recent Quinnipiac survey, just 12% of Democrats sympathize more with Israelis in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Last month, 56% of voters in the Democratic mayoral primary picked Mamdani, a democratic socialist with a history of activism against Israel, as their nominee. Andrew Cuomo, the former New York governor and Mamdanis chief rival, suggested that for many younger and progressive voters, Mamdanis criticism of Israel may have been an asset rather than a vulnerability. Halie Soifer, the chief executive of the Jewish Democratic Council of America, rejected the idea of a watershed moment in the Democratic Partys stance on Israel. Democrats continue to support the vital security relationship between our two countries, including U.S. military assistance, she said. What has changed, Soifer said, is the worsening humanitarian crisis in Gaza that has many concerned. Supporters and friends of Israel, just like the majority of Jewish American voters, can hold two truths at once: we are both deeply invested in Israels future as a Jewish and democratic state and critical of some policies of the current Israeli government, she said. ... Others see the shift in rhetoric as a sign of the times, which require a more principled approach. Amy Spitalnick, the CEO of the Jewish Council for Public Affairs, said the war coupled with the rise of antisemitism since the October 7, 2023 Hamas attack on Israel has created the space for a complex and principled critique of Israeli policy. It has far less to do with domestic politics in the United States than with the geopolitical landscape and the urgency of responding to that in a way that remains true to core values, which includes Israels security and a commitment to the dignity and rights of all people, she said. Torres is a progressive Democrat who has, since his election to Congress in 2020, been a vocal defender of Israel and endorsed Cuomo in the mayoral primary. [Antifar's note: some of the facts in this sentence feel mutually exclusive] He addressed criticism of Israel among Democrats on Sunday Night With Chuck Todd on Noosphere. He blamed it on Netanyahu, whose public rift with former President Barack Obama over the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran caused irreparable damage to Israels relationship with the Democratic Party. When you inject yourself into partisan politics and put your thumb on the scale in favor of one political party, that sets a dangerous precedent, Torres said. And I believe that the consequences of that political geopolitical calculation continue to reverberate till this day. Ronn Torossian, a public relations executive and philanthropist, who bundled hundreds of thousands for Torres after Oct. 7, said he severed ties with the congressman over his recent statements. Sadly, Ritchie Torres no longer stands with the State of Israel, he said. Its clear that hes very concerned about his future in the Democratic Party. Torres recently returned personal contributions from Torossian and entrepreneur Michael Sinensky, following a report about their ties to Trump and the Likud party in Israel. Sadly, its clear that whether it is changing times or political expediency, his love for the Jewish people is limited to a love of a left-wing Jewish government, Torossian said. Some commentators described Mamdanis election last month as a broader political realignment which has led to concern among some Democrats about it opening the door to strident criticism of Israel. Where criticism was seen as a political risk, it is now becoming part of the partys mainstream discourse. National Jewish Democrats, like Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro and former Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel both considered as possible presidential candidates in 2028 criticized Mamdani for dodging calls from Democratic colleagues and Jewish organizations to condemn the use of the globalize the intifada slogan. Foxman cautioned against reading too much into Mamdanis win. Its not the Mamdani effect per se as a political force, he said. He has not yet been tested beyond the primary. But the events in Gaza help his narrative. Sara Forman, the executive director of the New York Solidarity Network, said the pro-Israel community supports criticism of Israels government as part of a healthy democracy. She said she sees no indication of a change in the partys pro-Israel stance. The majority of the elected officials who are speaking out now are really doing so because they want to see an end to the war, and they want to see a return of the hostages, Forman said. Thats whats driving this more than anything else. Ritchie Torres! --- Please don't be weird in my topics <cite>Antifar posted [p:985918081] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/feb/12/immigrant-child-laborers-killed-factories-osha<quote>Statements published over the weekend by New York elected officials mark a tonal shift in how Democrats are addressing Israel and the conflict in Gaza, with Israels allies sharpening their criticism of the country.Democrats who once avoided public criticism of Israeli policy may now feel compelled to speak out amid the worsening starvation crisis. Another factor may be the political upset by Zohran Mamdani, a strident critic of Israel, in the New York City mayoral race.Rep. Ritchie Torres, one of Israels most outspoken allies in Congress, called for an end to the war and said Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahus leadership was causing irreparable damage to the U.S.-Israel relationship. New York Attorney General Tish James led a letter signed by dozens of state and city lawmakers that blasted Israels military strategy and called for sustained, unrestricted humanitarian aid to enter Gaza.The images coming out of Gaza, along with the growing outspokenness of the Democratic electorate on the issue in a longtime pro-Israel stronghold, make it harder for politicians to continue to embrace Israel without any criticism or distance, said Abe Foxman, the former longtime head of the Anti-Defamation League.Polls show that Democratic voters are increasingly sympathetic to Palestinians. In a recent Quinnipiac survey, just 12% of Democrats sympathize more with Israelis in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.Last month, 56% of voters in the Democratic mayoral primary picked Mamdani, a democratic socialist with a history of activism against Israel, as their nominee. Andrew Cuomo, the former New York governor and Mamdanis chief rival, suggested that for many younger and progressive voters, Mamdanis criticism of Israel may have been an asset rather than a vulnerability.Halie Soifer, the chief executive of the Jewish Democratic Council of America, rejected the idea of a watershed moment in the Democratic Partys stance on Israel. Democrats continue to support the vital security relationship between our two countries, including U.S. military assistance, she said.What has changed, Soifer said, is the worsening humanitarian crisis in Gaza that has many concerned. Supporters and friends of Israel, just like the majority of Jewish American voters, can hold two truths at once: we are both deeply invested in Israels future as a Jewish and democratic state and critical of some policies of the current Israeli government, she said.... Others see the shift in rhetoric as a sign of the times, which require a more principled approach.Amy Spitalnick, the CEO of the Jewish Council for Public Affairs, said the war coupled with the rise of antisemitism since the October 7, 2023 Hamas attack on Israel has created the space for a complex and principled critique of Israeli policy.It has far less to do with domestic politics in the United States than with the geopolitical landscape and the urgency of responding to that in a way that remains true to core values, which includes Israels security and a commitment to the dignity and rights of all people, she said.Torres is a progressive Democrat who has, since his election to Congress in 2020, been a vocal defender of Israel and endorsed Cuomo in the mayoral primary. [Antifar's note: some of the facts in this sentence feel mutually exclusive] He addressed criticism of Israel among Democrats on Sunday Night With Chuck Todd on Noosphere.He blamed it on Netanyahu, whose public rift with former President Barack Obama over the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran caused irreparable damage to Israels relationship with the Democratic Party.When you inject yourself into partisan politics and put your thumb on the scale in favor of one political party, that sets a dangerous precedent, Torres said. And I believe that the consequences of that political geopolitical calculation continue to reverberate till this day.Ronn Torossian, a public relations executive and philanthropist, who bundled hundreds of thousands for Torres after Oct. 7, said he severed ties with the congressman over his recent statements.Sadly, Ritchie Torres no longer stands with the State of Israel, he said. Its clear that hes very concerned about his future in the Democratic Party. Torres recently returned personal contributions from Torossian and entrepreneur Michael Sinensky, following a report about their ties to Trump and the Likud party in Israel.Sadly, its clear that whether it is changing times or political expediency, his love for the Jewish people is limited to a love of a left-wing Jewish government, Torossian said.Some commentators described Mamdanis election last month as a broader political realignment which has led to concern among some Democrats about it opening the door to strident criticism of Israel. Where criticism was seen as a political risk, it is now becoming part of the partys mainstream discourse.National Jewish Democrats, like Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro and former Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel both considered as possible presidential candidates in 2028 criticized Mamdani for dodging calls from Democratic colleagues and Jewish organizations to condemn the use of the globalize the intifada slogan.Foxman cautioned against reading too much into Mamdanis win. Its not the Mamdani effect per se as a political force, he said. He has not yet been tested beyond the primary. But the events in Gaza help his narrative.Sara Forman, the executive director of the New York Solidarity Network, said the pro-Israel community supports criticism of Israels government as part of a healthy democracy. She said she sees no indication of a change in the partys pro-Israel stance. The majority of the elected officials who are speaking out now are really doing so because they want to see an end to the war, and they want to see a return of the hostages, Forman said. Thats whats driving this more than anything else.</quote>Ritchie Torres! </quote> ... 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LightSnake 07/28/25 7:03:00 PM #2:	Yeah, wonder why. Maybe the pictures of malnourished starved kids are impossible to ignore. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:985918095] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, wonder why. Maybe the pictures of malnourished starved kids are impossible to ignore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 07/28/25 7:03:26 PM #3:	Damn, the pictures of starving children must be getting to them. Now, do an arms embargo and force actual aid. --- We can bring to birth a new world from the ashes of the old For the union makes us strong. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:985918102] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Damn, the pictures of starving children must be getting to them. Now, do an arms embargo and force actual aid. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 07/28/25 7:06:36 PM #4:	Feels like they know it's about to get worse over there and they're just trying to get ahead of it and say they were against it --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:985918146] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Feels like they know it's about to get worse over there and they're just trying to get ahead of it and say they were against it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robot2600 07/28/25 7:09:07 PM #5:	Imagine being Columbia right now, actively involved in expelling students who protested starving children. Like, the whiplash on this is freaking unreal. Columbia is going to have to backtrack and apologize to all the student protestors and still have their reputation ruined. --- April 15, 2024: The Day the Internet Died <cite>Robot2600 posted [p:985918177] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Imagine being Columbia right now, actively involved in expelling students who protested starving children. Like, the whiplash on this is freaking unreal.Columbia is going to have to backtrack and apologize to all the student protestors and still have their reputation ruined.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KiwiTerraRizing 07/28/25 7:13:15 PM #6:	Imagine having the balls to say its antisemitism to be against genocide. --- Trucking Legend Don Schneider! <cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted [p:985918234] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Imagine having the balls to say its antisemitism to be against genocide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
havean776 07/28/25 7:32:41 PM #7:	Good. --- "I will either find a way, or make one." Hannibal Barca <cite>havean776 posted [p:985918429] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/28/25 10:08:40 PM #8:	Bump --- Please don't be weird in my topics <cite>Antifar posted [p:985920261] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Silver_Patron 07/28/25 10:12:16 PM #9:	legendary_zell posted... Damn, the pictures of starving children must be getting to them. Now, do an arms embargo and force actual aid. this should have been done in the first place. Theres no reason for kids to be starving in Gaza. What did these poor kids in Gaza do to deserve this? --- RAIDER NATION Proud member of the silver/black fanbase for life! <cite>Silver_Patron posted [p:985920314] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted... </cite><quote>Damn, the pictures of starving children must be getting to them. Now, do an arms embargo and force actual aid.</quote>this should have been done in the first place. Theres no reason for kids to be starving in Gaza. What did these poor kids in Gaza do to deserve this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
name_unknown 07/29/25 11:50:01 AM #10:	only a 1/3 polled now approve of the current IDF actions, 8% of dems support Israel in the war https://news.gallup.com/poll/692948/u.s.-back-israel-military-action-gaza-new-low.aspx 32% in U.S. Back Israel's Military Action in Gaza, a New Low WASHINGTON, D.C. Americans approval of Israels military action in Gaza has fallen 10 percentage points since the prior measurement in September, and it is now at 32%, the lowest reading since Gallup first asked the question in November 2023. Disapproval of the military action has now reached 60%. These findings are from a July 7-21, 2025, Gallup poll, as Israels campaign against Hamas stretched into its 21st month. Americans supported Israels actions in Gaza in its initial reading in 2023, taken several weeks after the Oct. 7 Hamas attack. Since then, disapproval has outpaced approval in each survey, peaking at 55% in March 2024 before dipping to 48% in two readings later in the year. Americans Sharply Divided by Party Over Israels Actions The decline in approval is driven by 16-point drops among both Democrats and independents. As has been the case since the start of the conflict, independents (25%) express higher approval than Democrats (8%), but both groups currently register their lowest readings to date. In contrast, 71% of Republicans say they approve of Israels action in Gaza, up from 66% in September. Approval of Israels Military Action in Iran Slightly Higher Than in Gaza The July survey also asked about support for Israels military action targeting suspected nuclear enrichment and military sites in Iran. Currently, 38% of Americans express approval of this military action; 54% disapprove. Seventy-eight percent of Republicans, 31% of independents and 12% of Democrats approve. While estimates differ on how much the attack set back Irans ability to develop a nuclear weapon, concerns that the action, which included a military assist from the U.S., could spark a wider war have not materialized. Netanyahu Rated Unfavorably by Majority of Americans for First Time Fifty-two percent of Americans now view Benjamin Netanyahu unfavorably, his highest unfavorable rating since 1997. His favorable rating stands at 29%, while 19% of U.S. adults have no opinion of him. Until December 2023, Americans viewed Netanyahu more positively than negatively, except in 1997, when he was less well known. In the December 2023 poll, Netanyahus unfavorable rating far outpaced his 33% favorable rating, with the current poll showing a continued deterioration in his image. Netanyahus unfavorable rating has roughly doubled since 2019, the last reading before the start of the current conflict. The increase in unfavorability has been accompanied by roughly equal decreases in his favorable rating (down 11 points) and the percentage with no opinion of the Israeli leader (down 14 points). During the polls field period, Netanyahu visited the U.S. to meet with President Donald Trump and other political leaders. Although the Trump administration continued its efforts to broker a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, Netanyahu left Washington without such a deal. Republicans continue to have a broadly positive opinion of the conservative Israeli prime minister. Two-thirds of Republicans, 67%, now have a favorable opinion of Netanyahu, compared with 19% of independents and 9% of Democrats. While Republicans have held a consistently more favorable opinion of Netanyahu than Democrats and independents throughout the trend, the current 58-point party gap is the largest. Republicans opinions of Netanyahu are similar to their views in 2019, which was Gallups last reading prior to the Oct. 7 attacks, while Democrats and independents ratings of him are sharply worse. Demographic Differences in Views of Netanyahu, Israels Military Action Partisans differences in support for Netanyahu and Israels military action in both Gaza and Iran are reflected in significant differences by gender, age, race and ethnicity. Men, White adults, and those aged 55 and older are more likely than their counterparts to view Netanyahu favorably and approve of Israels military action in Gaza and Iran. Bottom Line Americans support for Israels military operation in Gaza and their positive views of Netanyahu have both reached new lows, reflecting sharp declines in Democrats and independents support. At the same time, Republicans backing of Israels military action and its prime minister is holding firm, resulting in record partisan gaps on both. The increasingly skeptical and divided American public poses a challenge for Israeli leadership and U.S. policymakers who are seeking to navigate the conflict. <cite>name_unknown posted [p:985924819] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>only a 1/3 polled now approve of the current IDF actions, 8% of dems support Israel in the warhttps://news.gallup.com/poll/692948/u.s.-back-israel-military-action-gaza-new-low.aspx32% in U.S. Back Israel's Military Action in Gaza, a New LowWASHINGTON, D.C. Americans approval of Israels military action in Gaza has fallen 10 percentage points since the prior measurement in September, and it is now at 32%, the lowest reading since Gallup first asked the question in November 2023. Disapproval of the military action has now reached 60%.These findings are from a July 7-21, 2025, Gallup poll, as Israels campaign against Hamas stretched into its 21st month. Americans supported Israels actions in Gaza in its initial reading in 2023, taken several weeks after the Oct. 7 Hamas attack. Since then, disapproval has outpaced approval in each survey, peaking at 55% in March 2024 before dipping to 48% in two readings later in the year.Americans Sharply Divided by Party Over Israels ActionsThe decline in approval is driven by 16-point drops among both Democrats and independents. As has been the case since the start of the conflict, independents (25%) express higher approval than Democrats (8%), but both groups currently register their lowest readings to date. In contrast, 71% of Republicans say they approve of Israels action in Gaza, up from 66% in September.Approval of Israels Military Action in Iran Slightly Higher Than in GazaThe July survey also asked about support for Israels military action targeting suspected nuclear enrichment and military sites in Iran. Currently, 38% of Americans express approval of this military action; 54% disapprove. Seventy-eight percent of Republicans, 31% of independents and 12% of Democrats approve.While estimates differ on how much the attack set back Irans ability to develop a nuclear weapon, concerns that the action, which included a military assist from the U.S., could spark a wider war have not materialized.Netanyahu Rated Unfavorably by Majority of Americans for First TimeFifty-two percent of Americans now view Benjamin Netanyahu unfavorably, his highest unfavorable rating since 1997. His favorable rating stands at 29%, while 19% of U.S. adults have no opinion of him.Until December 2023, Americans viewed Netanyahu more positively than negatively, except in 1997, when he was less well known. In the December 2023 poll, Netanyahus unfavorable rating far outpaced his 33% favorable rating, with the current poll showing a continued deterioration in his image.Netanyahus unfavorable rating has roughly doubled since 2019, the last reading before the start of the current conflict. The increase in unfavorability has been accompanied by roughly equal decreases in his favorable rating (down 11 points) and the percentage with no opinion of the Israeli leader (down 14 points).During the polls field period, Netanyahu visited the U.S. to meet with President Donald Trump and other political leaders. Although the Trump administration continued its efforts to broker a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, Netanyahu left Washington without such a deal.Republicans continue to have a broadly positive opinion of the conservative Israeli prime minister. Two-thirds of Republicans, 67%, now have a favorable opinion of Netanyahu, compared with 19% of independents and 9% of Democrats. While Republicans have held a consistently more favorable opinion of Netanyahu than Democrats and independents throughout the trend, the current 58-point party gap is the largest.Republicans opinions of Netanyahu are similar to their views in 2019, which was Gallups last reading prior to the Oct. 7 attacks, while Democrats and independents ratings of him are sharply worse.Demographic Differences in Views of Netanyahu, Israels Military ActionPartisans differences in support for Netanyahu and Israels military action in both Gaza and Iran are reflected in significant differences by gender, age, race and ethnicity. Men, White adults, and those aged 55 and older are more likely than their counterparts to view Netanyahu favorably and approve of Israels military action in Gaza and Iran.Bottom LineAmericans support for Israels military operation in Gaza and their positive views of Netanyahu have both reached new lows, reflecting sharp declines in Democrats and independents support. At the same time, Republicans backing of Israels military action and its prime minister is holding firm, resulting in record partisan gaps on both. The increasingly skeptical and divided American public poses a challenge for Israeli leadership and U.S. policymakers who are seeking to navigate the conflict.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoesntMatter 07/29/25 12:04:21 PM #11:	about goddamn time --- Reject the Oligarchy. Resist their plot: https://theplotagainstamerica.com/ Find your local organizers: https://www.fiftyfifty.one/ https://indivisible.org/ <cite>DoesntMatter posted [p:985924960] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>about goddamn time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaikyoStyle 07/29/25 12:10:48 PM #13:	Ronn Torossian is an anti-semitic fuckbag. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Vetinari 2028. Make Ankh-Morpork Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:985925009] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Ronn Torossian is an anti-semitic fuckbag.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 07/29/25 12:12:10 PM #14:	If only they cared when it mattered. It still matters, obviously, but so many lives would have been saved if this country could actually acknowledge the crimes Isreal's government was doing during the election. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:985925021] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>If only they cared when it mattered. It still matters, obviously, but so many lives would have been saved if this country could actually acknowledge the crimes Isreal's government was doing during the election.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSj4Wingzero 07/29/25 12:18:32 PM #15:	You mean some people are finally getting on board with the whole "I can support Israel's right to exist without supporting the actions of the current right-wing extremist government which is responsible for thousands of civilian deaths" thing? About fucking time. --- Not changing this sig until the Knicks win the NBA Championship! Started 4/23/2010! <cite>SSj4Wingzero posted [p:985925075] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>You mean some people are finally getting on board with the whole "I can support Israel's right to exist without supporting the actions of the current right-wing extremist government which is responsible for thousands of civilian deaths" thing? About fucking time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 07/29/25 12:19:23 PM #16:	Robot2600 posted... Columbia is going to have to backtrack and apologize to all the student protestors and still have their reputation ruined. I'll eat my left shoe if that happens. Umbreon posted... If only they cared when it mattered. It still matters, obviously, but so many lives would have been saved if this country could actually acknowledge the crimes Isreal's government was doing during the election. Biden too busy clutching pearls after seeing pictures of decapitated babies that don't exist to worry about the actual children being starved. <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:985925080] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Robot2600 posted... </cite><quote>Columbia is going to have to backtrack and apologize to all the student protestors and still have their reputation ruined.</quote>I'll eat my left shoe if that happens.Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>If only they cared when it mattered. It still matters, obviously, but so many lives would have been saved if this country could actually acknowledge the crimes Isreal's government was doing during the election.</quote>Biden too busy clutching pearls after seeing pictures of decapitated babies that don't exist to worry about the actual children being starved. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hmnut7 07/29/25 12:28:12 PM #17:	Umbreon posted... If only they cared when it mattered. It still matters, obviously, but so many lives would have been saved if this country could actually acknowledge the crimes Isreal's government was doing during the election. Agreed. I mean hopefully in 4 years Democrats will be in power and can stop this. But if we're at full genocide already, 4 years is forever away. How many men, women and children will die over the next 4 years because Americans did nothing to stop the crisis last year? --- Starfire: "They are too numerous to fight. What shall we do?" Robin: "Fight anyway!" (pb) <cite>hmnut7 posted [p:985925138] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>If only they cared when it mattered. It still matters, obviously, but so many lives would have been saved if this country could actually acknowledge the crimes Isreal's government was doing during the election.</quote>Agreed. I mean hopefully in 4 years Democrats will be in power and can stop this. But if we're at full genocide already, 4 years is forever away. How many men, women and children will die over the next 4 years because Americans did nothing to stop the crisis last year?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/29/25 12:38:54 PM #18:	https://bsky.app/profile/petersterne.com/post/3lv4ggk7e7k2c --- Please don't be weird in my topics <cite>Antifar posted [p:985925213] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>https://bsky.app/profile/petersterne.com/post/3lv4ggk7e7k2c</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Takuya_Lee 07/29/25 12:43:08 PM #19:	Umbreon posted... If only they cared when it mattered. It still matters, obviously, but so many lives would have been saved if this country could actually acknowledge the crimes Isreal's government was doing during the election. Agreed. At the same time though, this shows how badly Bibi torched thru the good will that had been built up between the US and Israel. All in the name of not going to prison. --- Narutaki was right. This is all Decade's fault. <cite>Takuya_Lee posted [p:985925251] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>If only they cared when it mattered. It still matters, obviously, but so many lives would have been saved if this country could actually acknowledge the crimes Isreal's government was doing during the election.</quote>Agreed. At the same time though, this shows how badly Bibi torched thru the good will that had been built up between the US and Israel. All in the name of not going to prison.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 07/29/25 12:47:01 PM #20:	the narrative is only changing because israel is like 99% done with their genocide, theres enough time to act like were the good guys but by the time anything is done, israel will have completed what they set out to do. --- May contain bones https://youtu.be/jGbI0P4hh3o <cite>Chicken posted [p:985925291] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>the narrative is only changing because israel is like 99% done with their genocide, theres enough time to act like were the good guys but by the time anything is done, israel will have completed what they set out to do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asdf8562 07/29/25 12:48:51 PM #21:	Believe it or not, both sides of the political spectrum of voters wants to break away from blind support of Israel. Reasons vary across the map, but the support for stopping aid to Israel is greater than what I think some people realize. <cite>asdf8562 posted [p:985925305] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Believe it or not, both sides of the political spectrum of voters wants to break away from blind support of Israel.Reasons vary across the map, but the support for stopping aid to Israel is greater than what I think some people realize.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 07/29/25 12:50:48 PM #22:	Fuck Israel. Coming from someone who leans conservative. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:985925327] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Fuck Israel. Coming from someone who leans conservative. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
name_unknown 07/29/25 12:50:53 PM #23:	Jan ceasefire ended in March. 4 months of restricted aid and then taking over for the UN, from 400 to just 4 spots of aid. Think the bold face lie of no starving here would push more Dems to stop supporting Israel <cite>name_unknown posted [p:985925328] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Jan ceasefire ended in March. 4 months of restricted aid and then taking over for the UN, from 400 to just 4 spots of aid.Think the bold face lie of no starving here would push more Dems to stop supporting Israel</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 07/29/25 12:56:07 PM #24:	DarkProto05 posted... Fuck Israel. Coming from someone who leans conservative. "Leans" --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:985925389] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>DarkProto05 posted... </cite><quote>Fuck Israel. Coming from someone who leans conservative.</quote>"Leans"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 07/29/25 12:56:59 PM #25:	Will_VIIII posted... "Leans" Quit crying. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:985925399] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Will_VIIII posted... </cite><quote>"Leans"</quote>Quit crying. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hospy 07/29/25 12:57:30 PM #26:	The electorates attitudes change, too bad the politicians arent going to. <cite>Hospy posted [p:985925406] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>The electorates attitudes change, too bad the politicians arent going to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/29/25 12:59:22 PM #27:	LightSnake posted... Yeah, wonder why. Maybe the pictures of malnourished starved kids are impossible to ignore. TV news was broadcasting videos of babies that looked like dessicated corpses but were actually alive. That's how bad the starvation is in Gaza right now. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:985925416] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, wonder why. Maybe the pictures of malnourished starved kids are impossible to ignore.</quote>TV news was broadcasting videos of babies that looked like dessicated corpses but were actually alive. That's how bad the starvation is in Gaza right now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheater87 07/29/25 12:59:53 PM #28:	Tyranthraxus posted... TV news was broadcasting videos of babies that looked like dessicated corpses but were actually alive. That's how bad the starvation is in Gaza right now. The news is still downplaying it. --- Just call me Discount Dan. <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:985925424] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>TV news was broadcasting videos of babies that looked like dessicated corpses but were actually alive. That's how bad the starvation is in Gaza right now.</quote>The news is still downplaying it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 07/29/25 1:00:19 PM #29:	Tyranthraxus posted... TV news was broadcasting videos of babies that looked like dessicated corpses but were actually alive. That's how bad the starvation is in Gaza right now. The ridiculous bullshit of "Oooh, ACTUALLY this kid had an illness beforehand!" Yeah, you mean to tell me disabled kids are more at risk right now/ You don't fucking say! --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:985925427] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>TV news was broadcasting videos of babies that looked like dessicated corpses but were actually alive. That's how bad the starvation is in Gaza right now.</quote>The ridiculous bullshit of "Oooh, ACTUALLY this kid had an illness beforehand!"Yeah, you mean to tell me disabled kids are more at risk right now/ You don't fucking say!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/29/25 1:02:22 PM #30:	Cheater87 posted... The news is still downplaying it. For regulation reasons they literally can't show the worst of it so you have to assume it's always worse than they say it is. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:985925443] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Cheater87 posted... </cite><quote>The news is still downplaying it.</quote>For regulation reasons they literally can't show the worst of it so you have to assume it's always worse than they say it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 07/29/25 1:02:33 PM #31:	DarkProto05 posted... Quit crying. Tell that to the pedophile you voted for. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:985925445] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>DarkProto05 posted... </cite><quote>Quit crying.</quote>Tell that to the pedophile you voted for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 07/29/25 1:04:13 PM #32:	When people on the right chime in with "yeah I hate Israel, too" I am automatically sus of them for obvious reasons because they don't ever tend to actually value human rights. there's usually just one very obvious reason that is not found on the left as much --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:985925457] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>When people on the right chime in with "yeah I hate Israel, too" I am automatically sus of them for obvious reasons because they don't ever tend to actually value human rights.there's usually just one very obvious reason that is not found on the left as much</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 07/29/25 1:24:05 PM #34:	DarkProto05 posted... Quit crying. Point out the crying please? Or don't use the word if you're going to use it incorrectly. --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:985925639] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>DarkProto05 posted... </cite><quote>Quit crying.</quote>Point out the crying please? Or don't use the word if you're going to use it incorrectly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 07/29/25 1:57:45 PM #35:	Will_VIIII posted... Point out the crying please? Or don't use the word if you're going to use it incorrectly. Youre still crying. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:985925945] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Will_VIIII posted... </cite><quote>Point out the crying please? Or don't use the word if you're going to use it incorrectly.</quote>Youre still crying. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 07/29/25 1:59:43 PM #36:	DarkProto05 posted... Youre still crying. You're still not telling that to the pedophile you voted for. Proudly. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:985925973] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>DarkProto05 posted... </cite><quote>Youre still crying.</quote>You're still not telling that to the pedophile you voted for.Proudly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 07/29/25 2:05:48 PM #38:	DarkProto05 posted... I didnt vote for child sniffer Biden. Swing and a miss, but thanks for the confirmation. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:985926043] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>DarkProto05 posted... </cite><quote>I didnt vote for child sniffer Biden.</quote>Swing and a miss, but thanks for the confirmation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 07/29/25 2:09:39 PM #39:	DrizztLink posted... Swing and a miss, but thanks for the confirmation. You dont know who I voted for, just who I did not. Home run. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:985926087] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>Swing and a miss, but thanks for the confirmation.</quote>You dont know who I voted for, just who I did not. Home run. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 07/29/25 2:10:48 PM #40:	Honey, we're not all as easily deluded as Republicans. You ain't slick. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:985926104] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Honey, we're not all as easily deluded as Republicans.You ain't slick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 07/29/25 2:13:20 PM #41:	DarkProto05 posted... You dont know who I voted for, just who I did not. Home run. It wasn't exactly a packed field. You either voted for Harris, Trump, Stein, Supreme, or nobody. If you didn't vote you would have said so, and nobody votes for Stein or Supreme. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:985926127] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>DarkProto05 posted... </cite><quote>You dont know who I voted for, just who I did not. Home run.</quote>It wasn't exactly a packed field. You either voted for Harris, Trump, Stein, Supreme, or nobody.If you didn't vote you would have said so, and nobody votes for Stein or Supreme. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 07/29/25 2:13:44 PM #42:	DarkProto05 posted... You dont know who I voted for, just who I did not. Home run. Youre going to get banned very soon. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Vetinari 2028. Make Ankh-Morpork Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:985926130] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>DarkProto05 posted... </cite><quote>You dont know who I voted for, just who I did not. Home run.</quote>Youre going to get banned very soon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 07/29/25 2:16:32 PM #43:	SaikyoStyle posted... Youre going to get banned very soon. Haha, you guys are the polar opposite of the far right. No better no worse. Its your way or no way. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:985926163] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>SaikyoStyle posted... </cite><quote>Youre going to get banned very soon.</quote>Haha, you guys are the polar opposite of the far right. No better no worse. Its your way or no way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 07/29/25 2:17:22 PM #44:	A_Good_Boy posted... It wasn't exactly a packed field. You either voted for Harris, Trump, Stein, Supreme, or nobody. If you didn't vote you would have said so, and nobody votes for Stein or Supreme. The only person here thats getting warm. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:985926172] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>A_Good_Boy posted... </cite><quote>It wasn't exactly a packed field. You either voted for Harris, Trump, Stein, Supreme, or nobody.If you didn't vote you would have said so, and nobody votes for Stein or Supreme.</quote>The only person here thats getting warm. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 07/29/25 2:17:30 PM #45:	Youre gonna get banned and were all gonna just laugh and laugh and laugh. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Vetinari 2028. Make Ankh-Morpork Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:985926173] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>Youre gonna get banned and were all gonna just laugh and laugh and laugh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
myusernameislame 07/29/25 2:18:16 PM #46:	DarkProto05 posted... Haha, you guys are the polar opposite of the far right. No better no worse. Its your way or no way. The opposite of Nazis are actually better than Nazis. Quite a bit better. <cite>myusernameislame posted [p:985926178] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>DarkProto05 posted... </cite><quote>Haha, you guys are the polar opposite of the far right. No better no worse. Its your way or no way.</quote>The opposite of Nazis are actually better than Nazis. Quite a bit better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZMythos 07/29/25 2:18:59 PM #48:	But I was told that pro-palestinian sentiment was why Trump got elected and the left is too woke! --- Jump! Jump! Slide! Slide! <cite>ZMythos posted [p:985926190] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>But I was told that pro-palestinian sentiment was why Trump got elected and the left is too woke! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 07/29/25 2:19:52 PM #49:	DarkProto05 posted... The only person here thats getting warm. The one who said you voted for Trump? --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:985926198] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>DarkProto05 posted... </cite><quote>The only person here thats getting warm.</quote>The one who said you voted for Trump?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 07/29/25 2:22:15 PM #50:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Ive seen many of those where I live IRL. Theyre very hilarious. Just as hilarious as the liberal meltdown going on in this topic. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:985926219] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Ive seen many of those where I live IRL. Theyre very hilarious. Just as hilarious as the liberal meltdown going on in this topic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 07/29/25 2:23:06 PM #51:	DrizztLink posted... The one who said you voted for Trump? Read his post again. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:985926231] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>The one who said you voted for Trump?</quote>Read his post again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 07/29/25 2:23:26 PM #52:	DarkProto05 posted... Ive seen many of those where I live IRL. No shit, I assume you see them every hour of every day. Seeing as you are one and it appears to be your only setting. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:985926238] in Democrats'... [t:81019555]...</cite> <quote>DarkProto05 posted... </cite><quote>Ive seen many of those where I live IRL.</quote>No shit, I assume you see them every hour of every day.Seeing as you are one and it appears to be your only setting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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