Poll of the Day > Credit card companies should not have this kind of power

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Sorry bud.

It explains why the groups in all countries pushing this are all christo fascist weirdos.

We are seeing the rise of the Christian version of the Taliban.

Project 2025 is the tip of the spear.

This problem of credit card companies censoring shit has been going on long before Project 2025, and the UK's OSA was passed by the Tories back in 2023 underneath the table. Labor just chose not to get rid of it, and it's come into effect as a result. It's actually the UK that's pushing this, specifically their GOSRN, as the groups pushing it all have ties to them.

This might blow your mind, but project 2025 has been in the works since before 2025.

This problem of credit card companies censoring s*** has been going on long before Project 2025, and the UK's OSA was passed by the Tories back in 2023 underneath the table. Labor just chose not to get rid of it, and it's come into effect as a result. It's actually the UK that's pushing this, specifically their GOSRN, as the groups pushing it all have ties to them.

Don't bother, you can't argue with ooger once he gets his Christian hate boner going.

Nice try at deflecting from facts.

The same content was removed from Patreon in 2017.

The same content was removed from Patreon in 2017.

Oh hey, right when what became Project 2025 started.

How interesting.

Oh hey, right when what became Project 2025 started.

How interesting.

The credit card company censorship shit has been going on since at least 2012, as a result of one of Obama's policies targeting them.

He knows, but he has a set of alternative facts he'd like to believe instead.

He knows, but he has a set of alternative facts he'd like to believe instead.

Note how @ooger has yet to post a source, LOL.

Another link for activists to give Stripe hell. Reminder Stripe straight up said they were gonna go after LGBTQ content to people in phone calls, and desperately tried to backpedal from it a few days ago when it got reported: https://5calls.org/

Collective Shout have completely lost their collective marbles, and think they can get gamers arrested now: https://youtu.be/v70R-k4A7mU

Possibly the funniest Uno Reverse card has now been played; criminal charges have been filed against various members of Collective Shout in both the UK and Australia for repeatedly and maliciously misgendering one of their critics. They're so lost in the sauce that they've left themselves open to hate crime prosecution.

The discovery process will almost certainly reveal that some if not most of the "threats" these people have received are from their own sock puppet accounts.

There's almost certain to be a defamation lawsuit in the future, too.

That's even less justified than the other removed content.

Has ooger seriously gone full "I reject your reality and substitute my own"?

To be fair he did provide a source. Whether it's a credible source that supports the conclusion he's trying to present remains in question, but a source is there.

Project 2025 was established in 2022 with Paul Dans as director to provide the 2024 Republican presidential nominee with a personnel database and ideological framework.[63][41] According to the Johnson Amendment, 501c3 organizations like Heritage cannot explicitly promote a particular election candidate.[64] The Heritage Foundation spent $22 million preparing staffing recommendations for a conservative government in 2025. This was much more than what the group typically does for its staffing recommendations because President Trump said he had terrible staff during his first term.[63] Citing the Reagan-era maxim that "personnel is policy", some political commentators have argued that personnel is the most important aspect of Project 2025.[65][66]

The Mandate for Leadership series has had new volumes released in parallel with United States presidential elections since 1981.[68] Heritage calls its Mandate a "policy bible",[68] claiming that the implementation of almost two-thirds of the policies in its 1981 Mandate was attempted by Ronald Reagan,[69] and similarly, the implementation of nearly two-thirds of the policies of its 2015 Mandate was attempted by Trump.[69][70]

In April 2023, the Heritage Foundation published the 920-page Mandate, written by hundreds of conservatives.[13] Nearly half of the project's collaborating organizations have received dark money contributions from a network of fundraising groups linked to Leonard Leo, a major conservative donor and key figure in guiding the selection of Trump's federal judicial nominees.[71] Some of the authors worked for Amazon, Meta, and bitcoin companies directly or as lobbyists.[72] One expert claimed inconsistencies in the plan are designed for fund-raising from certain industries or donors that would benefit.[73]

His "source" is an interview from 2024, which he claims supports Project 2025 starting in 2017 when the people who wrote it were already in power. I can't tell if he's been gaslit or is trying to gaslight us.

I mean, regardless of when Project 2025 itself was officially established, the Heritage Foundation has been pushing similar agendas for its entire existence. To say the project itself started in 2017 isn't particularly accurate, but I'd be very surprised if one couldn't find examples of the Heritage Foundation (and those pushing agendas it supports) lobbying for things like preventing the sale of "immoral" media in 2017, capitalizing on the fact that Trump built so much of his presidency on "owning the libs" and was therefore likely to be on board with pushing back against "leftist" trends in media.

Now, I expect the Heritage Foundation isn't particularly interested in the ID-harvesting angle that's underpinning so many implementations of this censorship. Youtube's sudden interest in "protecting" the children it's been happily showing torture porn to may be capitalizing on Visa/MC's efforts to strong-arm Steam et al into removing games they think are icky, but it's more likely just Google finding an excuse to collect more invasive data.

Christians wouldn't be against content with incest in it.

"Christians" is such a broad group with such diverse opinions that making any sort of blanket statement about what they would or wouldn't be against is impossible. At this point, you can't even consistently say that Christians follow Christ (in which case one can easily say they aren't actually Christians without falling into true Scotsman territory, but they self-identify as such vocally enough that they kind of have to be lumped in).

I mean, regardless of when Project 2025 itself was officially established, the Heritage Foundation has been pushing similar agendas for its entire existence. To say the project itself started in 2017 isn't particularly accurate, but I'd be very surprised if one couldn't find examples of the Heritage Foundation (and those pushing agendas it supports) lobbying for things like preventing the sale of "immoral" media in 2017, capitalizing on the fact that Trump built so much of his presidency on "owning the libs" and was therefore likely to be on board with pushing back against "leftist" trends in media.

Maybe you should read what I wrote and linked, little guy.

I mean, regardless of when Project 2025 itself was officially established, the Heritage Foundation has been pushing similar agendas for its entire existence. To say the project itself started in 2017 isn't particularly accurate, but I'd be very surprised if one couldn't find examples of the Heritage Foundation (and those pushing agendas it supports) lobbying for things like preventing the sale of "immoral" media in 2017, capitalizing on the fact that Trump built so much of his presidency on "owning the libs" and was therefore likely to be on board with pushing back against "leftist" trends in media.

Now, I expect the Heritage Foundation isn't particularly interested in the ID-harvesting angle that's underpinning so many implementations of this censorship. Youtube's sudden interest in "protecting" the children it's been happily showing torture porn to may be capitalizing on Visa/MC's efforts to strong-arm Steam et al into removing games they think are icky, but it's more likely just Google finding an excuse to collect more invasive data.

Maybe you should grow up and admit you are wrong, little guy.

Edit: inb4 he marks me for trolling or flaming, as that seems to be his ultimate goal.

The same content was removed from Patreon in 2017.

Oh hey, right when what became Project 2025 started.

How interesting.

Should I be interpreting that as "another post is several inches up my own backside"?

I'm just looking at the grammatical configuration. Your response to "your source is several inches up your own backside" is "another post isn't a source," which sounds like you're saying "that's not a source up there, it's another post."

More saliently, he didn't quote those posts as a source, he quoted them as a throwback to the claim you made that Project 2025 started in 2017, requesting you to back up that claim.

I already did

I already did

The only "source" you've posted was in post #198 that had an interview from 2024 that does not at all support your claim that Project 2025 started in 2017. If you think you've provided another source that does support your claim, kindly repost it or even just post a quote of that post so the rest of us can see it. Because as is no one has been able to find the post you supposedly made that supports your claim.

Fun fact, you've posted a whopping grand total of zero sources!

My guy, we're just asking where this alleged source is. It's a simple question; no need to turn it into some kind of contest.