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EPR-radar 07/02/25 5:09:59 PM #51:	LightSnake posted... Thantos is probably talking about Nixon committing treason to scuttle Vietnam peace talks and then the war spilling out. Nixon had some BAD foreign policy Which Trump is copying right now. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:985642157] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>Thantos is probably talking about Nixon committing treason to scuttle Vietnam peace talks and then the war spilling out. Nixon had some BAD foreign policy</quote>Which Trump is copying right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mybbqrules 07/02/25 5:21:32 PM #52:	There wasn't a question after Jan 6th, 2021. --- Trump said he would let Israel finish the job. If that didn't put the 2024 election choice into crystal clarity for someone, I don't know what to tell them. <cite>mybbqrules posted [p:985642285] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>There wasn't a question after Jan 6th, 2021.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 07/02/25 5:22:27 PM #53:	He's the worst, most unsuitable person ever to be elected President. Even Nixon was capable of self-doubt and reflection. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. <cite>ai123 posted [p:985642298] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>He's the worst, most unsuitable person ever to be elected President. Even Nixon was capable of self-doubt and reflection.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evolician 07/02/25 5:24:55 PM #54:	In a hundred years there will be people who insist we have to have large statues of Trump the same way there are statues of confederate leaders because muh history --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Lavidon/ https://www.twitch.tv/Lavidon <cite>Evolician posted [p:985642318] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>In a hundred years there will be people who insist we have to have large statues of Trump the same way there are statues of confederate leaders because muh history</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mybbqrules 07/02/25 5:25:23 PM #55:	orangefire25 posted... No, he's literally the best one we've had. ~~according to half of America~~ Stop. Saying. Half. Of. America. He got 70-ish million votes in 2024. America's population in 2024 was 350 million. So no, it's nowhere near half. Stop making the wannabe fascist more popular than he is --- Trump said he would let Israel finish the job. If that didn't put the 2024 election choice into crystal clarity for someone, I don't know what to tell them. <cite>mybbqrules posted [p:985642329] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>orangefire25 posted... </cite><quote>No, he's literally the best one we've had. according to half of America </quote>Stop.Saying.Half.Of.America.He got 70-ish million votes in 2024.America's population in 2024 was 350 million.So no, it's nowhere near half. Stop making the wannabe fascist more popular than he is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Charismic_Zach_Gowen 07/02/25 5:32:29 PM #56:	LightSnake posted... I'm not sure how. The Supreme Court changed the rules to benefit him. They'll change it back And the answer to that is to ignore them. At this point, a complete reseting of the judiciary system is needed. We're not going to defeat fascists by playing by rules they don't have to. If Trump can ignore the Court, so can Dems. --- In Brady We Trust. I've finally realized the secret to making a successful Mearn topic. Make it about CZG - Mearn <cite>Charismic_Zach_Gowen posted [p:985642377] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>I'm not sure how.The Supreme Court changed the rules to benefit him. They'll change it back</quote>And the answer to that is to ignore them. At this point, a complete reseting of the judiciary system is needed. We're not going to defeat fascists by playing by rules they don't have to. If Trump can ignore the Court, so can Dems. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StarFighters76 07/02/25 5:34:12 PM #57:	mybbqrules posted... There wasn't a question after Jan 6th, 2021. COVID and the BLM protests is what did it for me. But January 6th sealed the deal immediately. --- 1,000 maps on 04/12/2010! -- 2,000 maps on 04/15/2016! -- 3,000 maps on 11/19/2019! -- 4,000 maps on 02/10/2023! <cite>StarFighters76 posted [p:985642392] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>mybbqrules posted... </cite><quote>There wasn't a question after Jan 6th, 2021.</quote>COVID and the BLM protests is what did it for me. But January 6th sealed the deal immediately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 07/02/25 5:36:49 PM #58:	Probably, but at this moment we don't have immediate proof that Trump has caused as much longterm damage as Buchanan and A. Johnson. Yet. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. https://youtu.be/lMss1CeHOiM <cite>K181 posted [p:985642414] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>Probably, but at this moment we don't have immediate proof that Trump has caused as much longterm damage as Buchanan and A. Johnson. Yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 07/02/25 5:37:05 PM #59:	mybbqrules posted... Stop. Saying. Half. Of. America. He got 70-ish million votes in 2024. America's population in 2024 was 350 million. So no, it's nowhere near half. Stop making the wannabe fascist more popular than he is A good number of the 80 million who didn't vote are at the very least apathetic about the threat of fascists taking control. They are complicit. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:985642417] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>mybbqrules posted... </cite><quote>Stop.Saying.Half.Of.America.He got 70-ish million votes in 2024.America's population in 2024 was 350 million.So no, it's nowhere near half. Stop making the wannabe fascist more popular than he is</quote>A good number of the 80 million who didn't vote are at the very least apathetic about the threat of fascists taking control. They are complicit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LoZguy709 07/02/25 5:43:14 PM #60:	UnholyMudcrab posted... The 80 million who didn't vote are at the very least apathetic about the threat of fascists taking control. They are complicit. Complicit doesn't mean they think he's the best president ever. People not voting would indicate they don't care about him much one way or the other. It's really more telling about our deadbeat society that doesn't care about issues beyond short-term fixes and is willing to completely fuck up the future for generations that currently get no to little say in politics (and when they do, they're encouraged to undermine long-term ramifications through indoctrination). <cite>LoZguy709 posted [p:985642480] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted... </cite><quote>The 80 million who didn't vote are at the very least apathetic about the threat of fascists taking control. They are complicit.</quote>Complicit doesn't mean they think he's the best president ever. People not voting would indicate they don't care about him much one way or the other. It's really more telling about our deadbeat society that doesn't care about issues beyond short-term fixes and is willing to completely fuck up the future for generations that currently get no to little say in politics (and when they do, they're encouraged to undermine long-term ramifications through indoctrination).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MysteryMan923 07/02/25 5:45:24 PM #61:	Donald Trump can be considered the worst president ever based on a combination of his actions, rhetoric, and long-term damage to democratic norms. Here's why: 1. Undermining Democracy: Trump repeatedly spread false claims about election fraud, culminating in his role in inciting the January 6th insurrection. This was an unprecedented attack on the peaceful transfer of power, a cornerstone of American democracy. 2. Incompetent Pandemic Response: His handling of COVID-19 was marked by misinformation, denial of scientific evidence, and inconsistent messaging. Over 400,000 Americans had died by the end of his term, and many experts believe a more competent response could have saved tens of thousands of lives. 3. Constant Lying: Trump made over 30,000 false or misleading statements during his presidency, according to multiple fact-checking organizations. This level of dishonesty eroded public trust in institutions, media, and even basic facts. 4. Corruption and Nepotism: He appointed family members to key advisory roles and used the presidency to benefit his businesses. Multiple officials in his administration were investigated or indicted, and watchdog groups flagged numerous ethics violations. 5. Divisive Leadership: Rather than uniting the country, Trump consistently stoked racial and political division. He refused to unequivocally denounce white supremacists and used inflammatory language that polarized an already divided nation. 6. International Damage: Trump weakened key alliances, withdrew from international agreements like the Paris Climate Accord and the Iran nuclear deal, and praised authoritarian leaders while alienating democratic allies. This diminished Americas credibility and leadership on the world stage. 7. Policy Failures: His tax cuts overwhelmingly benefited the wealthy and ballooned the national deficit. Environmental regulations were rolled back at the expense of long-term climate goals. Health care remained a mess despite promises to repeal and replace the ACA. While some supporters praise Trump for appointing judges and reducing regulations, the overall harm to democratic institutions, public trust, and global standing make a strong case that he was the most damaging and irresponsible president in American history. --- You ain't gotta like me You just mad cuz I tell it how it is and you tell it how it might be <cite>MysteryMan923 posted [p:985642506] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>Donald Trump can be considered the worst president ever based on a combination of his actions, rhetoric, and long-term damage to democratic norms. Here's why:1. Undermining Democracy: Trump repeatedly spread false claims about election fraud, culminating in his role in inciting the January 6th insurrection. This was an unprecedented attack on the peaceful transfer of power, a cornerstone of American democracy.2. Incompetent Pandemic Response: His handling of COVID-19 was marked by misinformation, denial of scientific evidence, and inconsistent messaging. Over 400,000 Americans had died by the end of his term, and many experts believe a more competent response could have saved tens of thousands of lives.3. Constant Lying: Trump made over 30,000 false or misleading statements during his presidency, according to multiple fact-checking organizations. This level of dishonesty eroded public trust in institutions, media, and even basic facts.4. Corruption and Nepotism: He appointed family members to key advisory roles and used the presidency to benefit his businesses. Multiple officials in his administration were investigated or indicted, and watchdog groups flagged numerous ethics violations.5. Divisive Leadership: Rather than uniting the country, Trump consistently stoked racial and political division. He refused to unequivocally denounce white supremacists and used inflammatory language that polarized an already divided nation.6. International Damage: Trump weakened key alliances, withdrew from international agreements like the Paris Climate Accord and the Iran nuclear deal, and praised authoritarian leaders while alienating democratic allies. This diminished Americas credibility and leadership on the world stage.7. Policy Failures: His tax cuts overwhelmingly benefited the wealthy and ballooned the national deficit. Environmental regulations were rolled back at the expense of long-term climate goals. Health care remained a mess despite promises to repeal and replace the ACA.While some supporters praise Trump for appointing judges and reducing regulations, the overall harm to democratic institutions, public trust, and global standing make a strong case that he was the most damaging and irresponsible president in American history.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ubergeneral3 07/02/25 5:48:21 PM #62:	I'm pretty much yes. The only cavet was what his long term effects will be. You can actully track when regan came into power and graph when everything started getting worse. With trump it might be like that, or as soon as he's out a leftist movement undos everything he did. You can argue that the reason why regan was so terrible was because the clintons were complicit with republican power instead of trying to resist his terrible reforms. as it stand if no one does anything after trump is gone then yes he's the worst but if this somehow causes good change as a reaction to trump's awefulness then he might be seen as someone that unironically caused the conditions for socialistic goverment to take root. --- RIP CE. This decision to close social boards will be the end of Gamefaqs. <cite>Ubergeneral3 posted [p:985642536] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty much yes.The only cavet was what his long term effects will be. You can actully track when regan came into power and graph when everything started getting worse.With trump it might be like that, or as soon as he's out a leftist movement undos everything he did. You can argue that the reason why regan was so terrible was because the clintons were complicit with republican power instead of trying to resist his terrible reforms. as it stand if no one does anything after trump is gone then yes he's the worst but if this somehow causes good change as a reaction to trump's awefulness then he might be seen as someone that unironically caused the conditions for socialistic goverment to take root. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
crayola555 07/02/25 5:51:18 PM #63:	LightSnake posted... I don't really see any argument anymore. He's outright topped Bush, Buchanan, Pierce.. He's killed or is killing more people. He's annihilated US influence and soft power. He's completely fucked up everything and gutted entire departments even before you get into the concentration camps, ethnic cleansing (Which admittedly other President were responsible for, too) and committing open treason. Worst of all he makes stupid twitter posts filled with bad grammar and horrible spellings --- 3DS FC: 0619-4850-3479 IGN: AlmaDelita <cite>crayola555 posted [p:985642574] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>I don't really see any argument anymore. He's outright topped Bush, Buchanan, Pierce..He's killed or is killing more people. He's annihilated US influence and soft power. He's completely fucked up everything and gutted entire departments even before you get into the concentration camps, ethnic cleansing (Which admittedly other President were responsible for, too) and committing open treason.</quote>Worst of all he makes stupid twitter posts filled with bad grammar and horrible spellings</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Devilanse333 07/02/25 5:55:32 PM #64:	Worst President and in the running for Worst Person. --- XBOX Live Gamertag: DevilAnse33v2 PSN: DevilAnse33 <cite>Devilanse333 posted [p:985642605] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>Worst President and in the running for Worst Person.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thanatos_the_Great 07/02/25 5:59:46 PM #65:	LightSnake posted... Thantos is probably talking about Nixon committing treason to scuttle Vietnam peace talks and then the war spilling out. Exactly. Millions more people died thanks to Nixon and his partner in crime Henry Kissinger. Trump hasn't matched that yet (though he's certainly working on it). --- Re-open board 261. <cite>Thanatos_the_Great posted [p:985642645] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>Thantos is probably talking about Nixon committing treason to scuttle Vietnam peace talks and then the war spilling out.</quote>Exactly. Millions more people died thanks to Nixon and his partner in crime Henry Kissinger. Trump hasn't matched that yet (though he's certainly working on it).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__aCEr__ 07/02/25 6:06:29 PM #66:	It's as if Trump has plucked out the worst policy of every former president and in many ways he has then amplified those policies. Everything he has done in his second term is immediately affecting millions of people and even killing millions of people around the world. Donald Trump's cruelty is global and he has infected the politics of many countries. He is without a doubt the worst President the United States has ever seen and he is one of the worst human beings that has walked this planet. --- See you next Wednesday. <cite>__aCEr__ posted [p:985642727] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>It's as if Trump has plucked out the worst policy of every former president and in many ways he has then amplified those policies.Everything he has done in his second term is immediately affecting millions of people and even killing millions of people around the world.Donald Trump's cruelty is global and he has infected the politics of many countries. He is without a doubt the worst President the United States has ever seen and he is one of the worst human beings that has walked this planet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 07/02/25 6:07:14 PM #67:	Thanatos_the_Great posted... Exactly. Millions more people died thanks to Nixon and his partner in crime Henry Kissinger. Trump hasn't matched that yet (though he's certainly working on it). Disagree. The USAID cuts are on track to do just that. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:985642732] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>Thanatos_the_Great posted... </cite><quote>Exactly. Millions more people died thanks to Nixon and his partner in crime Henry Kissinger. Trump hasn't matched that yet (though he's certainly working on it).</quote>Disagree. The USAID cuts are on track to do just that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Westernwolf4 07/02/25 6:09:11 PM #68:	PMarth2002 posted... He became the uncontested worst on Jan 6th imo. This is what I think. --- An opinion does not turn into a fact simply because the person holding it feels strongly about it. <cite>Westernwolf4 posted [p:985642748] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>PMarth2002 posted... </cite><quote>He became the uncontested worst on Jan 6th imo.</quote>This is what I think. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mybbqrules 07/02/25 8:40:33 PM #69:	UnholyMudcrab posted... A good number of the 80 million who didn't vote are at the very least apathetic about the threat of fascists taking control. They are complicit. "Complicit" doesn't mean "rabid, foaming Trump supporter". Again, just want people to stop helping the numbers look better for people who constantly lie about numbers anyway. --- Trump said he would let Israel finish the job. If that didn't put the 2024 election choice into crystal clarity for someone, I don't know what to tell them. <cite>mybbqrules posted [p:985644353] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted... </cite><quote>A good number of the 80 million who didn't vote are at the very least apathetic about the threat of fascists taking control. They are complicit.</quote>"Complicit" doesn't mean "rabid, foaming Trump supporter".Again, just want people to stop helping the numbers look better for people who constantly lie about numbers anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthEnvoy 07/02/25 11:22:10 PM #71:	PMarth2002 posted... He became the uncontested worst on Jan 6th imo. --- I disposed of doubt long ago. This will be a day long remembered. <cite>DarthEnvoy posted [p:985645847] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>PMarth2002 posted... </cite><quote>He became the uncontested worst on Jan 6th imo.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Srk700 07/02/25 11:28:39 PM #72:	IDK if hes the absolute worst, but he is the biggest threat to the US since King George III <cite>Srk700 posted [p:985645900] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>IDK if hes the absolute worst, but he is the biggest threat to the US since King George III</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patriotwolf 07/02/25 11:41:49 PM #73:	It's pretty bad but essentially making the Civil War in vain by taking away what was promised to slaves takes the cake --- "You're just one big headache, and I got a pistol full of aspirin" <cite>Patriotwolf posted [p:985645995] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>It's pretty bad but essentially making the Civil War in vain by taking away what was promised to slaves takes the cake</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 07/02/25 11:43:18 PM #74:	Patriotwolf posted... It's pretty bad but essentially making the Civil War in vain by taking away what was promised to slaves takes the cake As Trump is currently in the process of doing. I am amused when attempted defenses of Cheeto Benito fail as badly as this. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:985646001] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>Patriotwolf posted... </cite><quote>It's pretty bad but essentially making the Civil War in vain by taking away what was promised to slaves takes the cake</quote>As Trump is currently in the process of doing.I am amused when attempted defenses of Cheeto Benito fail as badly as this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 07/02/25 11:45:59 PM #75:	Easily the worst president ever. And we've had pro-slavery presidents too. (If it was socially acceptable right now, he'd be rambling pro-slavery in the open. I know damn well he'll be slashing away at the norms about that too to bring slavery back.) --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:985646016] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>Easily the worst president ever. And we've had pro-slavery presidents too. (If it was socially acceptable right now, he'd be rambling pro-slavery in the open. I know damn well he'll be slashing away at the norms about that too to bring slavery back.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 07/02/25 11:47:05 PM #76:	Sayoria posted... Easily the worst president ever. And we've had pro-slavery presidents too. (If it was socially acceptable right now, he'd be rambling pro-slavery in the open. I know damn well he'll be slashing away at the norms about that too to bring slavery back.) He still hasn't clarified what he means by black jobs yet. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:985646027] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>Sayoria posted... </cite><quote>Easily the worst president ever. And we've had pro-slavery presidents too. (If it was socially acceptable right now, he'd be rambling pro-slavery in the open. I know damn well he'll be slashing away at the norms about that too to bring slavery back.)</quote>He still hasn't clarified what he means by black jobs yet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Justin2Krelian 07/02/25 11:49:26 PM #77:	I considered him close to Bush 43 and Nixon for most of his first term, he dropped during Covid, and then went bottom 2 or 3 after 1/6. Now Im comfortable saying worst. --- -J2K Currently Streaming: Andor, Evil, Heels <cite>Justin2Krelian posted [p:985646041] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>I considered him close to Bush 43 and Nixon for most of his first term, he dropped during Covid, and then went bottom 2 or 3 after 1/6. Now Im comfortable saying worst.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 07/02/25 11:49:38 PM #78:	Sayoria posted... Easily the worst president ever. And we've had pro-slavery presidents too. (If it was socially acceptable right now, he'd be rambling pro-slavery in the open. I know damn well he'll be slashing away at the norms about that too to bring slavery back.) If Trump has his way, slavery absolutely will come back. He isn't seeking funding for that many GOPstapo thugs without big plans vs. the constitution (as fed to him by the scum he surrounds himself with, most notably Miller). --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:985646042] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>Sayoria posted... </cite><quote>Easily the worst president ever. And we've had pro-slavery presidents too. (If it was socially acceptable right now, he'd be rambling pro-slavery in the open. I know damn well he'll be slashing away at the norms about that too to bring slavery back.)</quote>If Trump has his way, slavery absolutely will come back. He isn't seeking funding for that many GOPstapo thugs without big plans vs. the constitution (as fed to him by the scum he surrounds himself with, most notably Miller).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 07/02/25 11:51:48 PM #79:	A_Good_Boy posted... He still hasn't clarified what he means by black jobs yet. EPR-radar posted... If Trump has his way, slavery absolutely will come back. He isn't seeking funding for that many GOPstapo thugs without big plans vs. the constitution (as fed to him by the scum he surrounds himself with, most notably Miller). "Make America Great Again" "Bring Jobs Back To America" We know what all this means. He's hiding it under 'Patriotic' sounding phrases. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:985646056] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>A_Good_Boy posted... </cite><quote>He still hasn't clarified what he means by black jobs yet.</quote>EPR-radar posted... </cite><quote>If Trump has his way, slavery absolutely will come back. He isn't seeking funding for that many GOPstapo thugs without big plans vs. the constitution (as fed to him by the scum he surrounds himself with, most notably Miller).</quote>"Make America Great Again""Bring Jobs Back To America"We know what all this means. He's hiding it under 'Patriotic' sounding phrases.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hivebent4life 07/02/25 11:52:10 PM #80:	Trump is the worst for sure, but hot take, Biden is a bottom five president purely for the fact that his inaction led to Trump. He appointed Garland and allowed him to drag his feet for four years, which helped lead to getting Trump back into the White House. Biden also failed to take necessary steps such as disbanding ICE after they had proven themselves to be nothing but Trumps Gestapo in his first term. And then refusing to drop out until it was too late for a candidate to be chosen through primaries. Biden isnt worse than Trump himself but we cant pretend his mistakes didnt lead us here. --- ~Hivebent4Life 3DS FC: 5069-3910-2647 <cite>hivebent4life posted [p:985646058] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>Trump is the worst for sure, but hot take, Biden is a bottom five president purely for the fact that his inaction led to Trump. He appointed Garland and allowed him to drag his feet for four years, which helped lead to getting Trump back into the White House. Biden also failed to take necessary steps such as disbanding ICE after they had proven themselves to be nothing but Trumps Gestapo in his first term. And then refusing to drop out until it was too late for a candidate to be chosen through primaries. Biden isnt worse than Trump himself but we cant pretend his mistakes didnt lead us here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 07/02/25 11:56:57 PM #82:	hivebent4life posted... Trump is the worst for sure, but hot take, Biden is a bottom five president purely for the fact that his inaction led to Trump. He appointed Garland and allowed him to drag his feet for four years, which helped lead to getting Trump back into the White House. Biden also failed to take necessary steps such as disbanding ICE after they had proven themselves to be nothing but Trumps Gestapo in his first term. And then refusing to drop out until it was too late for a candidate to be chosen through primaries. Biden isnt worse than Trump himself but we cant pretend his mistakes didnt lead us here. Biden is like a 21st century Buchanan and Trump is just American Hitler. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:985646086] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>hivebent4life posted... </cite><quote>Trump is the worst for sure, but hot take, Biden is a bottom five president purely for the fact that his inaction led to Trump. He appointed Garland and allowed him to drag his feet for four years, which helped lead to getting Trump back into the White House. Biden also failed to take necessary steps such as disbanding ICE after they had proven themselves to be nothing but Trumps Gestapo in his first term. And then refusing to drop out until it was too late for a candidate to be chosen through primaries. Biden isnt worse than Trump himself but we cant pretend his mistakes didnt lead us here.</quote>Biden is like a 21st century Buchanan and Trump is just American Hitler.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hivebent4life 07/02/25 11:59:09 PM #84:	Tyranthraxus posted... Biden is like a 21st century Buchanan and Trump is just American Hitler. Trump is American Hitler, and Biden is the American Paul von Hindenburg --- ~Hivebent4Life 3DS FC: 5069-3910-2647 <cite>hivebent4life posted [p:985646102] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Biden is like a 21st century Buchanan and Trump is just American Hitler.</quote>Trump is American Hitler, and Biden is the American Paul von Hindenburg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 07/03/25 12:08:37 AM #85:	hivebent4life posted... Trump is American Hitler, and Biden is the American Paul von Hindenburg It still pisses me off, those photos of Biden smiling during the transition. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:985646144] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>hivebent4life posted... </cite><quote>Trump is American Hitler, and Biden is the American Paul von Hindenburg</quote>It still pisses me off, those photos of Biden smiling during the transition.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 07/03/25 12:11:33 AM #86:	I think so personally, but I will listen to smarter people make their claim for him not being the WORST. Anyone that doesn't have him in at least the bottom, say, 10 isn't worth listening to. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:985646166] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>I think so personally, but I will listen to smarter people make their claim for him not being the WORST. Anyone that doesn't have him in at least the bottom, say, 10 isn't worth listening to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 07/03/25 12:14:51 AM #87:	hivebent4life posted... but hot take, Biden is a bottom five president That's not a hot take, that's a stupid take. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:985646182] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>hivebent4life posted... </cite><quote>but hot take, Biden is a bottom five president</quote>That's not a hot take, that's a stupid take.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-Crissaegrim- 07/03/25 12:16:30 AM #88:	LightSnake posted... I don't really see any argument anymore. He's outright topped Bush, Buchanan, Pierce.. He's killed or is killing more people. He's annihilated US influence and soft power. He's completely fucked up everything and gutted entire departments even before you get into the concentration camps, ethnic cleansing (Which admittedly other President were responsible for, too) and committing open treason. Now that he's cancelled US military aid to Ukraine, after all the disgraceful, ghoulish political bullying he pulled on Zelenksyy to get that deal in the first place, the rest of the world knows that any deal with Trump doesn't mean shit. --- Work in progress bass guitar sound- https://youtu.be/rWj0ZbwTMQU?si=IiqHSLOcy2RaLNaM https://youtu.be/UdKl9R1l9YY?si=bHWWk7oCI9Blt3mj <cite>-Crissaegrim- posted [p:985646186] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>I don't really see any argument anymore. He's outright topped Bush, Buchanan, Pierce..He's killed or is killing more people. He's annihilated US influence and soft power. He's completely fucked up everything and gutted entire departments even before you get into the concentration camps, ethnic cleansing (Which admittedly other President were responsible for, too) and committing open treason.</quote>Now that he's cancelled US military aid to Ukraine, after all the disgraceful, ghoulish political bullying he pulled on Zelenksyy to get that deal in the first place, the rest of the world knows that any deal with Trump doesn't mean shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 07/03/25 12:16:36 AM #89:	Heineken14 posted... I think so personally, but I will listen to smarter people make their claim for him not being the WORST. Anyone that doesn't have him in at least the bottom, say, 10 isn't worth listening to. Anyone arguing that Trump is not the worst is being an idiot, and I don't care what their intellect or qualifications are. Even if we set aside the highly nontrivial issue that Trump is a traitor who has a personalty cult of violent deranged fuckwits hanging on his every word, we can take the cynical realpolitik Kissinger view of what Trump is up to. He is single-handedly ending the status of the US as a global superpower. As directed by Putin. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:985646188] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>I think so personally, but I will listen to smarter people make their claim for him not being the WORST. Anyone that doesn't have him in at least the bottom, say, 10 isn't worth listening to.</quote>Anyone arguing that Trump is not the worst is being an idiot, and I don't care what their intellect or qualifications are.Even if we set aside the highly nontrivial issue that Trump is a traitor who has a personalty cult of violent deranged fuckwits hanging on his every word, we can take the cynical realpolitik Kissinger view of what Trump is up to.He is single-handedly ending the status of the US as a global superpower. As directed by Putin.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hivebent4life 07/03/25 12:17:08 AM #90:	Heineken14 posted... That's not a hot take, that's a stupid take. Bidens failures led to the second Trump term. Biden failed to take action to punish Trump for his numerous crimes, stayed in the race until it was too late to hold a primary, then happily passed the reins to the man he had spent the last four years calling a fascist and a threat to democracy. --- ~Hivebent4Life 3DS FC: 5069-3910-2647 <cite>hivebent4life posted [p:985646189] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>That's not a hot take, that's a stupid take.</quote>Bidens failures led to the second Trump term. Biden failed to take action to punish Trump for his numerous crimes, stayed in the race until it was too late to hold a primary, then happily passed the reins to the man he had spent the last four years calling a fascist and a threat to democracy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mybbqrules 07/03/25 12:17:12 AM #91:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Lmao, "kid". That's cute. What is it, 2005 in here? How about you shut the fuck up and fuck off instead, since reading clearly isnt your strong suit? --- Trump said he would let Israel finish the job. If that didn't put the 2024 election choice into crystal clarity for someone, I don't know what to tell them. <cite>mybbqrules posted [p:985646191] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Lmao, "kid". That's cute. What is it, 2005 in here?How about you shut the fuck up and fuck off instead, since reading clearly isnt your strong suit?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 07/03/25 12:58:19 AM #92:	hivebent4life posted... Trump is the worst for sure, but hot take, Biden is a bottom five president purely for the fact that his inaction led to Trump. He appointed Garland and allowed him to drag his feet for four years, which helped lead to getting Trump back into the White House. Biden also failed to take necessary steps such as disbanding ICE after they had proven themselves to be nothing but Trumps Gestapo in his first term. And then refusing to drop out until it was too late for a candidate to be chosen through primaries. Biden isnt worse than Trump himself but we cant pretend his mistakes didnt lead us here. Biden is not a worse president than Buchanan, Nixon, Tyler, Cleveland, Johnson, Pierce, and Bush. Be serious now. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:985646432] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>hivebent4life posted... </cite><quote>Trump is the worst for sure, but hot take, Biden is a bottom five president purely for the fact that his inaction led to Trump. He appointed Garland and allowed him to drag his feet for four years, which helped lead to getting Trump back into the White House. Biden also failed to take necessary steps such as disbanding ICE after they had proven themselves to be nothing but Trumps Gestapo in his first term. And then refusing to drop out until it was too late for a candidate to be chosen through primaries. Biden isnt worse than Trump himself but we cant pretend his mistakes didnt lead us here.</quote>Biden is not a worse president than Buchanan, Nixon, Tyler, Cleveland, Johnson, Pierce, and Bush. Be serious now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 07/03/25 12:59:42 AM #93:	LightSnake posted... Biden is not a worse president than Buchanan, Nixon, Tyler, Cleveland, Johnson, Pierce, and Bush. Be serious now. There's also the issue of how much of the blame for Trump Biden should really get. It's not zero, but it's also widely shared among people and institutions that should have done better. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:985646444] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>Biden is not a worse president than Buchanan, Nixon, Tyler, Cleveland, Johnson, Pierce, and Bush. Be serious now.</quote>There's also the issue of how much of the blame for Trump Biden should really get. It's not zero, but it's also widely shared among people and institutions that should have done better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/03/25 1:01:12 AM #94:	EPR-radar posted... There's also the issue of how much of the blame for Trump Biden should really get. It's not zero, but it's also widely shared among people and institutions that should have done better. It's a lot. We would not be in the situation we're in now if Biden had announced he wasn't seeking reelection back in 2022. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:985646455] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>EPR-radar posted... </cite><quote>There's also the issue of how much of the blame for Trump Biden should really get. It's not zero, but it's also widely shared among people and institutions that should have done better.</quote>It's a lot. We would not be in the situation we're in now if Biden had announced he wasn't seeking reelection back in 2022. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 07/03/25 1:02:01 AM #95:	EPR-radar posted... There's also the issue of how much of the blame for Trump Biden should really get. It's not zero, but it's also widely shared among people and institutions that should have done better. I certainly agree he bears culpability for Garland dragging his feet. But some of this is down to economic trends outside of Biden's control in the COVID aftermath. Biden's positive policy steps take him well out of the bottom 10, even if he could've been much better. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:985646462] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>EPR-radar posted... </cite><quote>There's also the issue of how much of the blame for Trump Biden should really get. It's not zero, but it's also widely shared among people and institutions that should have done better.</quote>I certainly agree he bears culpability for Garland dragging his feet. But some of this is down to economic trends outside of Biden's control in the COVID aftermath.Biden's positive policy steps take him well out of the bottom 10, even if he could've been much better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaos_knight 07/03/25 1:03:54 AM #96:	Crazy part is that everyone knew he'd be the worst before he even took office. Yet we let it happen twice. --- Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl XLVIII Champions <cite>chaos_knight posted [p:985646471] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>Crazy part is that everyone knew he'd be the worst before he even took office. Yet we let it happen twice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 07/03/25 1:04:11 AM #97:	Tyranthraxus posted... It's a lot. We would not be in the situation we're in now if Biden had announced he wasn't seeking reelection back in 2022. That's by no means 100%. This is still the country where Trump just barely lost in 2020 after fucking up the covid response worse than almost everywhere else in the world. Absolute best case for election 2024 was another fucking coin toss. And that an indictment of the electorate and US institutions. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:985646473] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>It's a lot. We would not be in the situation we're in now if Biden had announced he wasn't seeking reelection back in 2022.</quote>That's by no means 100%. This is still the country where Trump just barely lost in 2020 after fucking up the covid response worse than almost everywhere else in the world.Absolute best case for election 2024 was another fucking coin toss. And that an indictment of the electorate and US institutions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 07/03/25 1:05:58 AM #98:	Tyranthraxus posted... It's a lot. We would not be in the situation we're in now if Biden had announced he wasn't seeking reelection back in 2022. Harris gets nominated and loses anyway --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:985646488] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>It's a lot. We would not be in the situation we're in now if Biden had announced he wasn't seeking reelection back in 2022.</quote>Harris gets nominated and loses anyway</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 07/03/25 1:07:11 AM #99:	EPR-radar posted... That's by no means 100%. This is still the country where Trump just barely lost in 2020 after fucking up the covid response worse than almost everywhere else in the world. Absolute best case for election 2024 was another fucking coin toss. And that an indictment of the electorate and US institutions. It's like...why would they believe a 2024 primary wouldn't become a toxic personality contest and referendum on Gaza? This relies on two hypotheticals: that someone would stand a better chance than Kamala Harris to win a primary and that person would also stand a better chnce in a general. I find both questionable --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:985646495] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>EPR-radar posted... </cite><quote>That's by no means 100%. This is still the country where Trump just barely lost in 2020 after fucking up the covid response worse than almost everywhere else in the world.Absolute best case for election 2024 was another fucking coin toss. And that an indictment of the electorate and US institutions.</quote>It's like...why would they believe a 2024 primary wouldn't become a toxic personality contest and referendum on Gaza?This relies on two hypotheticals: that someone would stand a better chance than Kamala Harris to win a primary and that person would also stand a better chnce in a general. I find both questionable</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 07/03/25 1:10:20 AM #100:	On the plus side, other countries will learn what happens when you sit on your hands and do nothing when you have a domestic terrorist with a cult on your hands. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:985646507] in Is there a... [t:81007606]...</cite> <quote>On the plus side, other countries will learn what happens when you sit on your hands and do nothing when you have a domestic terrorist with a cult on your hands.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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