Current Events > Tapper: "Biden scandal worse than Watergate"

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legendary_zell posted...

When was the right time to talk about it?

Before 2023, it was all about incumbent advantage, Biden wasn't too old, it was laughable to suggest a primary, Biden was the candidate, period, etc, and it was sabotage, conspiracy, and purity testing to suggest otherwise.

Everyone knew he was old, that's one of the first descriptors when anyone thinks about him. The issue was whether or not people bought into the hyperbole of full on dementia or something close to it. Overall, it was a distraction meant to divide. Because it was just as much of a distraction from past to present, there's no surprise that the typical response was the same. Fascists dangling keys to get people to dance to their tune.

If you have a constructive solution that avoids self-sabotage, that would be great.

Biden's actual actions definitely need to be scrutinized, just like how many of us were immediately critical of those like Schumer.

Tmaster148 posted...

I don't think a case like that would ever go in Biden's favor. It's not like Tapper's book is incorrect in what it is saying. It's just way past the point of being relevant and certainly just trying to distract from the harm currently being done by the Trump admin.

Except some of the things in the book are incorrect. I've posted proof of Jaime Robinson getting into it with the editor of Axios over an excerpt in the book being blatantly false. We don't need to give credence to this.

Unknown5uspect posted...

Except some of the things in the book are incorrect. I've posted proof of Jaime Robinson getting into it with the editor of Axios over an excerpt in the book being blatantly false. We don't need to give credence to this.

I still don't think Biden would win a case here and I would rather Tapper not get a win by winning a libel case. Libel isn't an easy case to win, because there is a lot of steps that must be proven first.

SecretBase posted...

There's a difference between reading a teleprompter while memorizing notes and actually speaking candidly.

No shit, Sherlock. We've seen him do both.

Slayer2111 posted...

Our own two eyes? Wtf do you mean? It happened on live tv.

We saw him walk into a wall on live tv? Where? Did you get him confused with this guy?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Z4-vas8btDE

Heineken14 posted...

We saw him walk into a wall on live tv? Where? Did you get him confused with this guy?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Z4-vas8btDE

You're not allowed to do that in a topic about Biden. People get big mad if you do

Remember when Trump wandered around on the runway?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF5TGQgQJeA

mystic_belmont posted...

Remember when Trump wandered around on the runway?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF5TGQgQJeA

I don't get it. No one in this thread is MAGA or is dismissing Trump's idiotic tendencies. He's obviously going senile, too.

Believe it or not, (take a deep breath) it's possible to criticize your own political party and call for change and not be for the other team. So "whataboutism" just falls flat here.

kelemvor posted...

I don't get it. No one in this thread is MAGA or is dismissing Trump's idiotic tendencies. He's obviously going senile, too.

Believe it or not, (take a deep breath) it's possible to criticize your own political party and call for change and not be for the other team. So "whataboutism" just falls flat here.

Just waiting on this evidence of Biden walking into walls that was said to have happened. I looked it up and the only source I could find was, ironically, Donnie making fun of Biden and saying he walked into a wall.

Also, nobody said you couldn't criticize your own political party.

Heineken14 posted...

Also, nobody said you couldn't criticize your own political party.

He knows. Thats why he's ignoring what people are specifically pointing out in focusing 50 to 100% of ones "criticism" specifically only Democrats.

Heineken14 posted...

Just waiting on this evidence of Biden walking into walls that was said to have happened. I looked it up and the only source I could find was, ironically, Donnie making fun of Biden and saying he walked into a wall.

That user's an anti-vax MAGA, so he probably did just hear it from Trump and believe it.

I'm sure it's been said but in case it hasn't this is your reminder that there is no left-wing media because capitalism favors fascism.

Everyone knew Biden's mental faculties weren't up to par in 2020, and the media, including Tapper, ignoring it to play along and make their friends in the DNC happy is a huge part of why so many Americans no longer trust our system...

Is this as bad as Jan 6, Water Gate, or Dubya's WMD? No, compared to those its trivial.

This is a book that was needed in 2023 to stop Biden from running. Though Biden's circle and DNC were pissing away the presidentncy saying Biden was the smartest man in the room.

kelemvor posted...

I don't get it. No one in this thread is MAGA or is dismissing Trump's idiotic tendencies. He's obviously going senile, too.

Whats wrong with making fun of Trump?

havean776 posted...

Whats wrong with making fun of Trump?

It hurts Kel's feelings.

i to would like to see this evidence of him walking into walls

shaking hands with nothing

ect

havean776 posted...

Whats wrong with making fun of Trump?

Nothing.

What's wrong with making fun of Biden?

SecretBase posted...

Nothing.

What's wrong with making fun of Biden?

Are you saying Biden an old retired man fighting cancer should be comparable to man currently in power holding 30 felonies and working hard to make your life worse?

but guise bidon old!!111!+1

The White Houses intelligence chief is said to be considering turning Donald Trumps routine briefings into a Fox News-style broadcast, with animations of exploding bombs, to make it easier for him to follow.

Tulsi Gabbard is looking to revamp the presidents daily brief so it mirrors a television broadcast because he doesnt read, NBC News reported, having spoken to five people with direct knowledge of the discussion.

One idea includes hiring a Fox News producer to produce a briefing that could include maps and animations of exploding bombs.

sfcalimari posted...

but guise bidon old!!111!+1

Source of the quote for sharing purposes?

trumps mental state is FAR worse than bidens

yet this topic gets far more posts

"oh but we know how bad trump is" yes and you are doing exactly what the fascists in power want by not talking about it

they WANT you to feel apathy going "eh im use to it by now"

AceMos posted...

yet this topic gets far more posts

Because nobody here argues against the fact that Trump is a dumb mentally ill incoherent manchild.

If people don't argue back and forth over a subject then posts do not pile up.

This topic is 276 posts long off of people denying obvious shit and/or complaining about it being discussed. It is entirely their faults.

SecretBase posted...

Because nobody here argues against the fact that Trump is a dumb mentally ill incoherent manchild.

If people don't argue back and forth over a subject then posts do not pile up.

This topic is 276 posts long off of people denying obvious shit and/or complaining about it being discussed. It is entirely their faults.

i notice you ignored the rest of my post

because you are the one wanting to deny reality as you are part of the problem wanting to distract and downplay trumps problems

AceMos posted...

i notice you ignored the rest of my post

People tend to dismiss nonsense. Notice I'm doing so this post too.

Nobody is "not talking about it". They are talking about it, not getting responses since everyone agrees, and seeing the topic die a natural death.

This topic doesn't die a natural death due to nonsensical bitching and baseless personal attacks from the people offended by its subject matter. I promise you that if said people stop this topic will also die. With 100% certainty. Nobody is going out of their way to bump it, it's bumped by the arguments.

SecretBase posted...

This topic doesn't die a natural death due to nonsensical bitching and baseless personal attacks

Ehhhhhh.

I'll give you the first one (look at you go, after all) but the personal attacks have been pretty well-founded.

This topic has more engagement than Tapper's book sales. Y'all just need to let go of this whole histrionic nonsense that Biden being old is a serious issue worth dwelling on.

DrizztLink posted...

Ehhhhhh.

I'll give you the first one (look at you go, after all)

Projection. Who was the first to complain about the subject matter of the topic? Was it a Biden critic? No!

Tmaster148 posted...

Some people are going to let literal crimes go unpunished just so they can bitch about biden.

This guy was already pre-emptively complaining about Biden's critics before they even showed up.

SecretBase posted...

Projection. Who was the first to complain about the subject matter of the topic?

You.

In post 5.

After all:

I promise you that if said people stop this topic will also die.

It takes two to tango, and who's the one who needed to come sprinting to the defense and keep it going for actual days?

SecretBase posted...

Because nobody here argues against the fact that Trump is a dumb mentally ill incoherent manchild.

This attitude of yours to find every reason under the sun to not talk about Trump and focus 50 to 100% of your energy on Democrats is not unique to this board. You contribute to the 'vibes' why Trump was better to undecided voters, uninformed voters, and "I dont follow politics" types of people.

asdf8562 posted...

This attitude of yours to find every reason under the sun to not talk about Trump and focus 50 to 100% of your energy on Democrats is not unique to this board. You contribute to the 'vibes' why Trump was better to undecided voters, uninformed voters, and "I dont follow politics" types of people.

But that's nonsense since I've posted topics about Trump and in topics about Trump. They just frequently get purged off of the board because people don't endlessly pointlessly argue in them.

So this tells me that all medical checks for politicians should be done on live camera to a group of 10 randomly selected doctors who post the results.

Trump would gladly volunteer Im sure to put the public at ease.

Now we got proof that Tapper's book is full of BS. Since according to the media, trump is 100% mentally competent and not old, him saying Biden was killed and replaced by a robot in 2020 must be true.

hes not very subtle

https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1928141007020781888

Its a complicated question, and the answer is that I understand and have been saying for a long time I understood specific grievances that President Trump had with the media or with whatever, answered Tapper. I mean, back in the early days of 2017, when BuzzFeed printed the Steele Dossier, which was full of nonsensical, outlandish charges, I said on air, like, I understand why-, I mean, you can Google it, I mean, people covered it at the time. But you know, I understand why hes frustrated, I would be too I didnt think it was responsible to publish the Steele Dossier.

Sure, dipshit, except the Steele Dossier isn't what started the investigation into him. It was really you fucks in the media that kept talking about it because of all the ridiculous things in it.

Heineken14 posted...

Sure, dipshit, except the Steele Dossier isn't what started the investigation into him. It was really you fucks in the media that kept talking about it because of all the ridiculous things in it.

It was okay for the media to disseminate the Clinton Cash book for months though!

Heineken14 posted...

Sure, dipshit, except the Steele Dossier isn't what started the investigation into him. It was really you fucks in the media that kept talking about it because of all the ridiculous things in it.

I bet he conveniently forgets that the Steele Dossier was funded by the GOP too.

kaiolino posted...

hes not very subtle

https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1928141007020781888

Tapper has found that being a right wing grifter makes more money.

I think its, I think it is problematic when people run for prosecutor and promise to go after a specific politician. And both Letitia James, the attorney general of New York, and Alvin Bragg, the district attorney of New York, both of them did that. And that to me is problematic because youre not saying, This is the offense and we need to bring justice to this perpetrator. Youre saying, Im going to go after him. And I think that there was a degree to which that was tolerated by the media writ large.

They're saying they're actually going to enforce the law, in contrast to dudes like Merrick Garland.

SecretBase posted...

But that's nonsense since I've posted topics about Trump and in topics about Trump. They just frequently get purged off of the board because people don't endlessly pointlessly argue in them.

You are only further helping my point.

You are more invested in making sure people are keeping conversations alive about Biden. By your own admission, you and people alike are more invested in rallying around reasons to focus hate at Biden..... than making sure the American people dont once again forget Trump.

You allegedly posting in a Trump topic means absolutely nothing to the main point being made by several people here.

Literally pretending this phenomenon is unique to Gamefaqs on this grand effort to make sure people spend the next 4 years rallying around a more juicy conversation of hating Democrats and Biden! Surely this style of messaging from the media, the voters and social media won't once again repeat 2024 into 2028. That repeated mistake of contributing to that collective vibe that Trump isnt truly that bad.

Bottom line is, messaging is a collective problem. You definitely contribute to the collective 'vibe' why Trump was better to undecided voters, uninformed voters, and "I dont follow politics" types of people.

asdf8562 posted...

You are more invested in making sure people are keeping conversations alive about Biden. Not Trump

If people argued against my anti-Trump posts I would respond equally frequently and lengthily.

But apparently Trump supporters either don't post on CE or know not to engage in losing arguments.

SecretBase posted...

If people argued against my anti-Trump posts I would respond equally frequently and lengthily.

But apparently Trump supporters either don't post on CE or know not to engage in losing arguments.

This again isnt a rebuttal to the contribution to the collective vibe that "Trump isnt as bad as Democrats say."

Your excuse for why you dont want to focus on Trump is about as weak as the media's excuse to constantly circle back to Biden and them wanting to focus less on Trump. Or worse, give a false equivalence to the 2 by frequently rallying a discussion on specifically Democrats because <insert Trumps antics> brings less views.

Knowingly or not, this collective effort on you guys part contribute to why so many people, people who are less invested in politics, get a vibe that Trump isnt all that bad. Or that Democrats are "almost as bad", "the same", or "worse." Those vibes in part come from the collective efforts from voters, politicians, and the media to repeatedly focus less on Trump, normalize Trumps behavior, and instead focus on rallying on a much more juicy topic..... Democrats and Biden. And when this is pointed out, the response is only to double down on focusing attention on Democrats/Biden with a wide range of excuses to avoid pivoting the attention back where it should be, Republicans/Trump.

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Once again, as Ive repeated many times now.

This is not unique to Gamefaqs. This is a national problem with voters, politician, social media and the media all collectively effecting the vibe the Trump isnt all that bad. Some of those "vibes" was naively contributed by our own allies.

Saying, "dOnT pOsT iN bIdEn ToPiCs" is at this point intentionally playing ignorant to literally the point of the actual massive problem of contributing to the normalization andor false equivalence of Trump.

havean776 posted...

Are you saying Biden an old retired man fighting cancer should be comparable to man currently in power holding 30 felonies and working hard to make your life worse?

It's Secret. It's his entire board schtick.

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You're almost there. I was talking about specifically what?

The fact that you are intentionally playing dumb about the what, literally plays to my exact point. The, what, is the thing you want to pretend only happens on GameFAQs.

Imagine standing in front of a camera and repeating this nonsense knowing that nobody intelligent will ever take you seriously again.

BewmHedshot posted...

Imagine standing in front of a camera and repeating this nonsense knowing that nobody intelligent will ever take you seriously again.

Dignity can be bought.

For Tapper, it's not even much of an investment.

Both in terms of the cost of his dignity and how much he actually has to offer.