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CastletonSnob1
05/23/25 11:18:17 AM
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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/tapper-and-thompson-discuss-book-claiming-bidens-inner-circle-hid-signs-of-decline
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loafy013
05/23/25 11:19:52 AM
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What, were the 3 topics on this last week not enough for you?

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argonautweakend
05/23/25 11:21:37 AM
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Man fuck off Jake Tapper.
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apocalyptic_4
05/23/25 11:27:31 AM
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It was pretty obvious Biden had physical and mental issues during most of his term let's be real here.
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Metal_Gear_Raxis
05/23/25 11:32:20 AM
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Trump's working to destroy Democracy and our goldfish attention span media decides to cling to "Biden oooooooollllllllllddddddd"

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boomgetchopped3
05/23/25 11:35:29 AM
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Biden is old we should make him seem younger. Conspiracy!

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Euripides
05/23/25 11:36:31 AM
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I'm sure Tapper will also be writing a book about how the current White House is hiding Trump's cognitive and physical decline.

Right?

Jake???

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Srk700
05/23/25 11:36:37 AM
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Why arent there books coming out about Trumps mental and physical decline?
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Were_Wyrm
05/23/25 11:36:37 AM
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Imagine if they embraced it like trump's circle is.

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Enclave
05/23/25 11:37:54 AM
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Srk700 posted...
Why arent there books coming out about Trumps mental and physical decline?

I imagine Trump would have the authors executed.

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Tmaster148
05/23/25 11:38:25 AM
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Srk700 posted...
Why arent there books coming out about Trumps mental and physical decline?

Because it's important we only talk about how much democrats suck while republicans piss all over the constitution.

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CastletonSnob1
05/23/25 11:44:04 AM
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Srk700 posted...
Why arent there books coming out about Trumps mental and physical decline?

Because Biden's refusal to drop out until it was too late led to Trump retaking the White House.

Tired of people saying, "But Trump!" every time someone dares to criticize Democrats.
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Euripides
05/23/25 11:45:24 AM
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CastletonSnob1 posted...
Because Biden's refusal to drop out until it was too late led to Trump retaking the White House.

Tired of people saying, "But Trump!" every time someone dares to criticize Democrats.

Except "but Trump!" applies here.

Your constant hate for Biden is well noted, though

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Dio
05/23/25 11:47:12 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Because it's important we only talk about how much democrats suck while republicans piss all over the constitution.

I forget we can't ever talk about Democrats. Ever. Even when they're in office we have to ignore it and focus on Trump/Republicans. It's almost as if we can have genuine discussions on multiple subjects! Shocker!

We're in this mess because of Biden.

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__aCEr__
05/23/25 11:48:42 AM
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The "bad vibes" people felt about the economy would have been tied to any Democrat running. Trump did not win because Biden stayed in too long. Trump won because Americans are short-sighted and stupid.

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Euripides
05/23/25 11:49:14 AM
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Dio posted...
I forget we can't ever talk about Democrats. Ever. Even when they're in office we have to ignore it and focus on Trump/Republicans. It's almost as if we can have genuine discussions on multiple subjects! Shocker!

We're in this mess because of Biden.

We're in this mess because of 50 years of right-wing propaganda, young people going full man-o-sphere, and 35% of eligible voters staying home on election day

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Tmaster148
05/23/25 11:49:30 AM
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Dio posted...
I forget we can't ever talk about Democrats. Ever. Even when they're in office we have to ignore it and focus on Trump/Republicans. It's almost as if we can have genuine discussions on multiple subjects! Shocker!

We're in this mess because of Biden.

We're in this mess, because people saw fascism and voted for it.

But of course it's never important to talk about what Republicans are doing now, we must focus on last year when Biden was president and running for re-election, because it's the only way you can avoid defending Trump's actions.

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CastletonSnob1
05/23/25 11:50:32 AM
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Euripides posted...
We're in this mess because of 50 years of right-wing propaganda, young people going full man-o-sphere, and 35% of eligible voters staying home on election day

And whose fault is it that voters stayed home? Isn't it a politician's job to get people to vote for them?

If you open a restaurant, and nobody goes to it, maybe your restaurant isn't very good.
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Heineken14
05/23/25 11:54:10 AM
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loafy013 posted...
What, were the 3 topics on this last week not enough for you?

No. THIS one this week has to be it! That's why he gave us such detailed info in his topic and didn't just lazily post a link.

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Euripides
05/23/25 11:55:58 AM
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TC's entire schtick is having bad takes on Biden

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Heineken14
05/23/25 11:56:09 AM
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CastletonSnob1 posted...


And whose fault is it that voters stayed home?

Voters.

This topic is fucking dumb.

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El_Dustino
05/23/25 11:57:46 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
Voters.

This topic is fucking dumb.
The democrats share at least equal blame. It's literally their job to get people to vote for them, and they did a shitty job.

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Heineken14
05/23/25 11:58:36 AM
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El_Dustino posted...
The democrats share at least equal blame. It's literally their job to get people to vote for them, and they did a shitty job.

They did. People are just fucking dumb.

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CastletonSnob1
05/23/25 11:59:38 AM
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El_Dustino posted...
The democrats share at least equal blame. It's literally their job to get people to vote for them, and they did a shitty job.

I've even seen comments that say Biden should have stayed in the race, when his OWN INTERNALS showed him losing in a 400+ EV landslide if he stayed. Republicans would have an even bigger majority in the House and Senate.
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Metal_Gear_Raxis
05/23/25 12:01:36 PM
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Euripides posted...
TC's entire schtick is having bad takes on Biden
If I'm remembering why I tagged them properly, they also get really indignant at anyone who gets frustrated at this country's abysmal voting rate.

EDIT: as they demonstrate in this very topic.

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AceMos
05/23/25 12:15:45 PM
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El_Dustino posted...
The democrats share at least equal blame. It's literally their job to get people to vote for them, and they did a shitty job.

ok what could kamala have done

she gave a detailed plan just the news media refused to talk about it

so what more could she have done when the entire news media was against her

when foreign powers where flooding social media with propaganda

how do you combat that

kamala debated trump and utterly crushed him

so what is the solution for this


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CastletonSnob1
05/23/25 12:19:11 PM
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AceMos posted...
ok what could kamala have done

she gave a detailed plan just the news media refused to talk about it

so what more could she have done when the entire news media was against her

when foreign powers where flooding social media with propaganda

how do you combat that

kamala debated trump and utterly crushed him

so what is the solution for this

Maybe not do things like campaign with Liz Cheney, who even Republicans don't care for?
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AceMos
05/23/25 12:21:18 PM
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CastletonSnob1 posted...
Maybe not do things like campaign with Liz Cheney, who even Republicans don't care for?

the avrg american does not even know who liz cheney is


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A_Good_Boy
05/23/25 12:22:32 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
Voters.

This topic is fucking dumb.
This

People will come up with every excuse in the book for why they're not accountable for their actions.

"It's the teachers fault I didn't study or do my homework."

"It's the firefighters fault I set my home on fire."

"Its the cops fault I beat my wife."

"It's the Dems fault I didn't bother voting. "

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Westernwolf4
05/23/25 12:26:31 PM
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__aCEr__ posted...
The "bad vibes" people felt about the economy would have been tied to any Democrat running. Trump did not win because Biden stayed in too long. Trump won because Americans are short-sighted and stupid.



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Westernwolf4
05/23/25 12:28:30 PM
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AceMos posted...
the avrg american does not even know who liz cheney is

There were an absurd amount of voters polled who did not even realize Biden was not running until they went to the polls. Lets all just let that sink in.


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Metal_Gear_Raxis
05/23/25 12:28:56 PM
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Yeah I'm so fucking done with making excuses for voters' terrible decisions.

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ai123
05/23/25 12:31:11 PM
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AceMos posted...
the avrg american does not even know who liz cheney is
So why antagonise those who do? Where was the upside?

It was another example of them using 20th Century tactics to fight a 21st Century war.

As far as the topic is concerned, it is literally the job of the army of staffers around a politician to present them in the best possible light. What else to you expect them to do in public?

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UltimateWing
05/23/25 12:32:04 PM
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And the voters have such short term memories. Didnt learn anything from Trumps last term. How he screwed up everything. But, I guess people want to have shitty lives and be miserable. Lose everything and cry why did this happen later.

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AceMos
05/23/25 12:32:49 PM
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ai123 posted...
So why antagonise those who do? Where was the upside?

It was another example of them using 20th Century tactics to fight a 21st Century war.

and how many people refused to vote for her over it?

i notice your still not listing things kamala could have actually done to combat the propaganda against her

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Tmaster148
05/23/25 12:33:31 PM
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People love to harp on Liz Cheney endorsement when data shows it basically didn't make a significant difference.

https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1860028988078579870

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creativerealms
05/23/25 12:34:47 PM
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Yeah that sucks however this is only a distraction right now. Focus on the demented madman in charge not the declining man who left.

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El_Dustino
05/23/25 12:36:28 PM
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AceMos posted...
ok what could kamala have done

she gave a detailed plan just the news media refused to talk about it

so what more could she have done when the entire news media was against her

when foreign powers where flooding social media with propaganda

how do you combat that

kamala debated trump and utterly crushed him

so what is the solution for this
Not pal around with Republicans, not say she would not do anything different from Biden (besides have a Republican in her cabinet), go on more podcasts/livestreams/engage with new media more instead of wasting money on MSM ads no one watched, don't use the proven loser Hillary Clinton consultants, take a much firmer stance on Gaza, actually have charisma

That's just off the top of my head, however that would maybe win her the popular vote at best, not the EC. The dems were screwed the moment Biden refused to step down.

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InfinityMonster
05/23/25 12:36:33 PM
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Westernwolf4 posted...
There were an absurd amount of voters polled who did not even realize Biden was not running until they went to the polls. Lets all just let that sink in.
No there weren't. This is misinformation people have been spreading.

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creativerealms
05/23/25 12:37:23 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
People love to harp on Liz Cheney endorsement when data shows it basically didn't make a significant difference.

https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1860028988078579870
You realiE
Tmaster148 posted...
People love to harp on Liz Cheney endorsement when data shows it basically didn't make a significant difference.

https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1860028988078579870
I would argue making a fourth of independents less enthusiastic is significant.

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StarFighters76
05/23/25 12:37:31 PM
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El_Dustino posted...
The democrats share at least equal blame. It's literally their job to get people to vote for them, and they did a shitty job.

You all really need to STFU with this bullshit. As it has been said many times, we had TWO choices. And with one of those choices, the 8 years of writing was all over the wall on why voting for them would be bad. There was no need to "get people to vote for Democrats" knowing that. Yet if after all that, they still needed "convincing" on who to vote for, then they were gonna vote for Trump (or not vote) in the first place. Why? Because those people are just that damn stupid. And for people like you to continuously defend their stupidity, doesn't really make you look any better. So let's just cut the crap already on how it's the Democrats fault that voters got stupid. It's getting real old, and has no actual merit.

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ai123
05/23/25 12:38:17 PM
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AceMos posted...
and how many people refused to vote for her over it?

Do you know that they didn't?

It's not just one thing. It's an accumulation. It sits alongside her stated desire to have a Republican in her cabinet, among other things.

i notice your still not listing things kamala could have actually done to combat the propaganda against her

Still? No one has asked me. That was my first post in the thread.

The Democrats have an army of staffers and hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign funds. It is their job, literally, to find a way to counter propaganda.

Whether I know how to do it is irrelevant. You are telling me I cannot criticize the guy who botched the repairs on my car because I'm not a mechanic.

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Tmaster148
05/23/25 12:39:11 PM
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creativerealms posted...
I would argue making a fourth of independents less enthusiastic is significant.

21% were more enthusiastic.
28% were less enthusiastic.

Whatever losses were made were also made up by others. It was basically a net zero loss.

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El_Dustino
05/23/25 12:40:11 PM
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StarFighters76 posted...
You all really need to STFU with this bullshit. As it has been said many times, we had TWO choices. And with one of those choices, the 8 years of writing was all over the wall on why voting for them would be bad. There was no need to "get people to vote for Democrats" knowing that. Yet if after all that, they still needed "convincing" on who to vote for, then they were gonna vote for Trump (or not vote) in the first place. Why? Because those people are just that damn stupid. And for people like you to continuously defend their stupidity, doesn't really make you look any better. So let's just cut the crap already on how it's the Democrats fault that voters got stupid. It's getting real old, and has no actual merit.
I never said they were blameless, but the dems had one fucking job, get elected, and they failed. If you look back at the last election and only see perfection on the Dem side you're blind.

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Westernwolf4
05/23/25 12:41:04 PM
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UltimateWing posted...
And the voters have such short term memories. Didnt learn anything from Trumps last term. How he screwed up everything. But, I guess people want to have shitty lives and be miserable. Lose everything and cry why did this happen later.

This is what drives my fury at voters above all else. Trump has always been garbage, since well before he entered politics. He was openly dumb and mean and incompetent and corrupt and a bigot well before 2016.

But even if you ignore all that-you have a terrible first term as a recent example! Lied constantly. Golfed constantly. Impeached. Using the office for obvious self-enrichment. Botched the handling of a pandemic that killed thousands. And on and on. Oh yeah, and at the end of it tried to overthrow the government and then whined and lied about it for four fucking years.

And at the end of all that, non-cult voters were like: I definitely want to see more of this shit. What the hell?

I was sure Harris would win because I thought Trump had a ceiling for his support outside the cult because he Is so clearly, ridiculously unfit to do any job. I was very wrong. My mistake was thinking a portion of Americans possess basic critical thinking skills. They dont.

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Raikuro
05/23/25 12:43:36 PM
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CastletonSnob1 posted...
And whose fault is it that voters stayed home? Isn't it a politician's job to get people to vote for them?

If you open a restaurant, and nobody goes to it, maybe your restaurant isn't very good.
Do you blame dentists for cavities you failed to prevent? Every adult citizen is morally obligated to vote. They shouldn't need daddy and mommy to beg.
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Tmaster148
05/23/25 12:45:09 PM
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The same people that say that the democrats need to earn their vote, never say the same for Trump and the GOP.

Trump and the GOP have yet to offer anything beneficial to the American people yet they are not required to "win you over".

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masterpug53
05/23/25 12:45:53 PM
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Euripides posted...
I'm sure Tapper will also be writing a book about how the current White House is hiding Trump's cognitive and physical decline.

Right?

Jake???

I could write a book right now about how Trump's mental decline has been obvious for the better part of a decade and yet a slim majority of the American voting populace simply did not give a shit.

It would be exactly one sentence. ^That sentence.

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