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Out on Thursday. This is completely out of nowhere for Too Kyo and all aesthetic signs for me (I am intimately familiar with most of the work of both Uchikoshi and Kodaka) point towards slop, but these reviews are completely going against that.

Very mad about no eu physical

First I've even seen the name. It's apparently on Steam too.

Not a fan of "despair" being bandied about in how the game describes itself. Is it made by the Danganronpa people or something? But I am an SRPG fan so it's at least worth keeping an eye on.

Dalthine posted...

First I've even seen the name. It's apparently on Steam too.

Not a fan of "despair" being bandied about in how the game describes itself. Is it made by the Danganronpa people or something? But I am an SRPG fan so it's at least worth keeping an eye on.

Kazutaka Kodaka (of Danganronpa fame), Kotaro Uchikoshi (of Zero Escape and AI: The Somnium Files fame), and Rui Komatsuzaki (the guy responsible for the art of Danganronpa) are all in on it together. There's miscellaneous other Danganronpa staff on it as well.

I really hope Ai doesnt become what Uchikoshi is known for.

Wish it was on PlayStation, don't really like getting 3rd party games on Switch and not getting it on Steam since it's not a physical copy.

This is a very nice surprise.

DodogamaRayBrst posted...

I really hope Ai doesnt become what Uchikoshi is known for.

but AI is good

DodogamaRayBrst posted...

I really hope Ai doesnt become what Uchikoshi is known for.

Look, I want Remember11 to get the recognition it deserves too, but I'm a realist.

Kain_Highwind posted...

but AI is good

First one is alright. There are not words for how bad the second one is.

I would be surprised if people who just want to play a new Danganronpa don't dislike the filler rpg gameplay.

DodogamaRayBrst posted...

First one is alright. There are not words for how bad the second one is.

it's maybe even better imo. Did you dislike the ending?

I played the pc demo last month. Been waiting for this one.

No, I disliked the story becoming progressively dumber to justify the timeline twist, the lazy reuse of characters from the first game in order to save money, the complete destruction of one of the best parent-child relationships in video games in order to justify a nonsensical no-spoilers design choice, the boringness of the main characters, the lack of humour, and the character specific endings being fucking gibberish.

Also the jpop song was way worse than Invincible Rainbow Arrow.

you can't mean Mizuki and Date relationship right?

DodogamaRayBrst posted...

No, I disliked the story becoming progressively dumber to justify the timeline twist, the lazy reuse of characters from the first game in order to save money, the complete destruction of one of the best parent-child relationships in video games in order to justify a nonsensical no-spoilers design choice, the boringness of the main characters, the lack of humour, and the character specific endings being fucking gibberish.

Also the jpop song was way worse than Invincible Rainbow Arrow.

Can't argue with any of this.

I am a relatively simple man, you put a competently made SRPG on the table, I buy it.

Gonna try to get that tomorrow but the line for the Switch 2 might make it hard.

Got both!

My friend hates Danganronpa and he's liking it a lot, dear God. Did Kodaka pull it off?

I'm not very far, day 5/6, but I'm really liking it so far in terms whats on offer in regards to combat, resource gathering and skill/weapon upgrading.

Just as an overall presentation of its ideas and systems it is unblievable how much better it is than Kodaka's last showing, Rain Code. That game... is not good. I liked it because I'll accept any noir slop thrown my way, but yeah. It barely even ran on the Switch all else aside.

So far the only thing that makes me raise an eyebrow about 100 Line is that so many songs are just nearly identical to Danganronpa or even Rain Code tracks that it becomes quite silly.

Love the Zero Escape series. Damn, 100 endings?

Garioshi posted...

My friend hates Danganronpa and he's liking it a lot, dear God. Did Kodaka pull it off?

this is a red flag for me as someone who likes Danganronpa.

Currently on Day 22 and I'm rather enjoying it. I'm thinking that with Hiruko and Sirei disappearing right when they're going to spill the beans on the war, how both are dedicated to get all people in by whatever means, and how Hiruko's already been at it for some time now, I'm thinking that she's basically a plant to get people to fight. I'm also thinking that too much hemoanima usage turns you into a commander given the similarity, that each character was living in their own individual TRC, and that there will be a Nier type New Game+ where you can understand what the commanders and the entity who I call the burning man are saying. I noticed the red important highlighted text that commanders said as if I was supposed to understand it. Why would it be there if I could never understand it, and it was a story mission I could never go back to, unless there was some type of New Game+ cycle?

Do numbers close to 10 scare you TC?

DodogamaRayBrst posted...

No, I disliked the story becoming progressively dumber to justify the timeline twist, the lazy reuse of characters from the first game in order to save money, the complete destruction of one of the best parent-child relationships in video games in order to justify a nonsensical no-spoilers design choice, the boringness of the main characters, the lack of humour, and the character specific endings being fucking gibberish.

You know, some of this blurb could apply to Bravely Default too.

I hope this Ginzaki character has a payoff and isn't just this unbelievably annoying the entire game.

Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted...

You know, some of this blurb could apply to Bravely Default too.

Haven't played it, couldn't say.

Got my special edition delivered today and all I can say is a gigantic "Oof!" at the horrible punch up localizations. It's distractingly bad as I listen to them in Japanese. It's a very cool game but the subs keep taking me out of it. Don't want to give a rather in depth review until I get further but this is like an annoying fly buzzing around my head that keeps distracting me.

What is a punch up localization

Doe posted...

What is a punch up localization

Imagine the Japanese is something simple like "What are you doing?!" The localizer takes it upon themselves to "improve" it rather than translate it and say something like "What the hell are you doing damn shrimp?!" to try to make it more colorful.

-Edit- I realize this'll start discourse about how to translate keigo or honorifics. This also includes distracting stuff like inserting western pop culture references like in Ace Attorney.

I heard stuff like having a lot of swears in some characters' dialogue is because Japanese has many levels of formal grammar and it's otherwise difficult to translate "crude speakers"

Doe posted...

I heard stuff like having a lot of swears in some characters' dialogue is because Japanese has many levels of formal grammar and it's otherwise difficult to translate "crude speakers"

Yeah that's "keigo" sorry shouldn't have used a japanese word for it. I wanted a quick example.

There was one time in the game where someone said By Abrahams bosom! Or some such. Made me :/

Picked up a copy while I was preordering a Switch 2 bundle. I really liked the demo and hearing that it has TONS of story content had me excited.

DodogamaRayBrst posted...

I hope this Ginzaki character has a payoff and isn't just this unbelievably annoying the entire game.

Half the time I feel kinda bad for him and the other half I think he's super annoying. He'll probably have payoff, I thought Gaku was shit but then bro came in super clutch with Tsubasa when push came to shove. Probably the point, where they make the holdouts seem less sympathetic until they get their time.

Ima's probably the actual worst as of where I am though, he's a complete fucking idiot and it's abundantly clear that his sister has zero backbone in the world because of that moron. At least Shouma's not actively messing up other people with his existence despite what he may think.

DodogamaRayBrst posted...

the complete destruction of one of the best parent-child relationships in video games in order to justify a nonsensical no-spoilers design choice

Can you elaborate?

MuscleRobo posted...

Imagine the Japanese is something simple like "What are you doing?!" The localizer takes it upon themselves to "improve" it rather than translate it and say something like "What the hell are you doing damn shrimp?!" to try to make it more colorful.

That sounds like a actual proper localization to me, lol.

DrizztLink posted...

Can you elaborate?

I'm going to assume it's because Date has the body and face of psychotic killer Saito Sejima who nearly killed the whole gang and not the face and body of Hayato Yagyu/Falco, despite the two switching bodies at the end of the last game and Saito's head literally exploding. As someone who has never played the sequel, I don't even know how the fuck this is possible and I'm ready to hate the explanation.

DrizztLink posted...

Can you elaborate?

Ai 2 was designed around a concept that it would have two different "modes", one that openly talks about the plot of the first game and one that is spoiler free so you can start with the sequel. Of course what this means is that a few pieces of dialogue around the game changes, but overall the whole game has to be catered to allowing this to be a possibility in the first place. So instead of further developing the amazing relationship between Date and Mizuki at the end of the first game, in Ai 2 Date just pisses off for six years like six months after the first game's ending because something something amnesia (again), leaving her without a parent and having next to no interplay with her, or anyone else in the game.

No me gusta.

Unfortunately I would consider Zero Escape guy to be washed since halfway through ZTD

Ive been spoiled at certain parts of Danganronpa, so despite liking that series Ive always regretted that. Im playing Rain Code now, and despite a spoiler in chapter 0 (which really undersold how extreme it was) Im enjoying it but its making some questionable choices.

This game Im finally going to go into blind, and was planning on doing that regardless of reviews. I take this as a good sign. Im full of hope. By which I mean actual hope, and not that bull shit twisting the meaning of hope depending on my perspective that so many Danganronpa characters do.

LearntoRead posted...

Ive been spoiled at certain parts of Danganronpa, so despite liking that series Ive always regretted that. Im playing Rain Code now, and despite a spoiler in chapter 0 (which really undersold how extreme it was) Im enjoying it but its making some questionable choices.

This game Im finally going to go into blind, and was planning on doing that regardless of reviews. I take this as a good sign. Im full of hope. By which I mean actual hope, and not that bull shit twisting the meaning of hope depending on my perspective that so many Danganronpa characters do.

Yeah getting spoiled in Danganronpa feels like such an inevitable thing. I remember getting spoiled about something major after finishing the first game just because I wanted to listen to some of its music. I made the mistake of looking down at the comments and one of the top ones outright spoiled a character death in a future game, unprovoked.

I'm hoping I'll be able to play The Hundred Line without getting spoiled because I don't want that to happen again. Knowing to not go into any potential discussions online about Kodaka's games will help now.

I keep hearing that a lot of people hate Danganronpa, I wonder why.

Anyways this game is getting amazing reviews, I might check it out.

Prestoff posted...

I keep hearing that a lot of people hate Danganronpa, I wonder why.

Bad writing at times and edgy unfunny humor, pretty much. I like it though.

I can probably argue against the anti-AI2 post, but I could concede it probably wasn't as good overall as AI1. But bad? No way lol, it arguably had more emotional weight. I just wish it was paced better. The twist being for the player rather than actually apply to the characters is a bit of an Uchikoshi first, since the characters usually react to the twist alongside the player. However, it fucked with my perception so hard and made me replay the entire story in my head but correctly this time, which I quite enjoyed.

Meanwhile

Doe posted...

Unfortunately I would consider Zero Escape guy to be washed since halfway through ZTD

He actually only wrote the Diana Sigma Phi one IIRC, and that was the best route by far. They had a severe budget problem, and Uchikoshi himself was mostly busy setting up the company that eventually led to stuff like The Hundred Line

I remember reading somewhere that the lead dev had admitted that if the game flopped they'd have to close the whole studio down.
Sounds like it'll do ok for itself.

This is their new company's first major game IIRC. They had 2 smaller scale games b4 this, and AI 1/2 was like a Spike Chunsoft published product.

Tragically they don't have a big budget for advertising, and it's kinda getting a little overshadowed by stuff like Blue Prince or Clair Obscur. I already bought the game, and listen, Uchikoshi is still my fucking goat and I'll defend everything he does blindly