Current Events > Do you judge people who gamble?

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Particularly when they cant afford it.

Yeah. They usually arent harming just themselves

Pretty much like any other vice. I know some people who manage to keep it under control even if others don't.

Yes. And the normalization of online sports gambling is ruining sports broadcasts.

Yes.

I'm actively rooting for every gambler to lose money.

K181 posted...

Yes.

I'm actively rooting for every gambler to lose money.

Even Pete Rose?

BloodyBenten posted...

Even Pete Rose?

Sure. Dumbass bet himself out of the hall of fame.

I'd be pretty hypocritical to judge someone for blowing up their spot with an addiction.

Not saying "you get a free pass to fuck up if you're an addict," just that I understand what it's like to lose control over something that you know is killing you.

Only the ones that lose.

Yes. If you look like you need to save every penny you earn, and you are buying a lot of lottery tickets, I will judge you harshly, a magnitude more harshly if you have your family with you when buying them.

Only if they lose lol

I played the slots once, just because I'd never been to a casino before and I was just doing it for fun. I won $12 and quit right then and there. They say the house always wins, but that's just because most folks don't know when to quit.

I do see people as idiots if they keep on losing money over and over and keep at it, anyway. The addicts obviously need help, but I'm talking about people still in control of themselves but who choose to make foolish decisions.

I mean sure if they have kids and are gambling away their way of life. Otherwise no, don't give a shit what people do with their money. Plus gambling is fun!

mercurydude posted...

I played the slots once, just because I'd never been to a casino before and I was just doing it for fun. I won $12 and quit right then and there. They say the house always wins, but that's just because most folks don't know when to quit.

I do see people as idiots if they keep on losing money over and over and keep at it, anyway. The addicts obviously need help, but I'm talking about people still in control of themselves but who choose to make foolish decisions.

The house doesn't necessarily defeat every person, but that's not really the goal. Every time someone plays, they statistically win. Whether they paid out that $12 to you or some addict who put it back in the machine, it was going to happen once every so many plays.

Eh. I get it, gambling can be fun and/or addictive.

Would only judge if they were hurting their family as well. Messing yourself up is one thing, but don't throw away your responsibility to look out for your family like that.

No. I dont gamble because I never win so its not fun. Im kind of glad I never win honestly because then I might like it. But people can like what they like. Its none of my business if they blow it all in the casino either.

Every now and then I watch this one streamer who used to do RuneScape gameplay but developed a gambling (and crack) addition. His content's really uncomfortable at times. He'll win thousands and sometimes tens of thousands of dollars in a single stream and immediately lose it all while freaking out.

Yes I do. I believe most activities are okay in moderation. The moment it negatively impacts your personal life and relationships, youre a selfish addict that deserves everything bad coming to you.

Also, gambling is a luxury hobby.

PissedOffMonk posted...

The moment it negatively impacts your personal life and relationships, youre a selfish addict that deserves everything bad coming to you.

This sort of useless shit is why I posted earlier.

CRON posted...

Every now and then I watch this one streamer who used to do RuneScape gameplay but developed a gambling (and crack) addition. His content's really uncomfortable at times. He'll win thousands and sometimes tens of thousands of dollars in a single stream and immediately lose it all while freaking out.

Watch this guy if you want some nosebleed gambling without the hard drugs.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a33vVbTDYZM

No. Gambling addiction is very real, and gambling businesses are evil and ruthless manipulators. Banning gambling altogether probably wouldn't work, but at the very least all gambling advertising and sponsorship should be banned.

Kind of but I also respect many people who gamble. So I dont dismiss them or anything. Its something Ill never understand

DrizztLink posted...

This sort of useless shit is why I posted earlier.

Am I not allowed to provide my own opinion?

You're allowed to post your opinion.

Just as Drizzt is allowed to call your opinion trash.

PissedOffMonk posted...

Am I not allowed to provide my own opinion?

Am I not allowed to provide my opinion on your opinion?

Well, less "my opinion" and more "actual knowledge of addiction from both a personal and professional perspective" but you get the idea.

No. I can understand how bad self-control can be.

I can honestly 100% say I dont give a shit how other people spend their money. Never have. Whatever hobby they are into, whatever their vice is its a two way street in that I dont care what they buy, drive, live in, dress like, or anything and I also 100% dont give a fuck what they think about me.

I learned as a young kid to not compare my life to others whether good or bad and Ive been really happy with that approach my entire life.

Not to derail the subject in a different direction but I think its weird there are people my age that compare their lives to others on social media. You can say those Instagram lives are fake anyway and thats an entirely different discussion but the fact you are even comparing your life against everyone else is weird to me anyway. Again Im glad I learned that lesson like 40 years ago. Kinda sad many people havent learned to let go of that measuring stick and let it impact their own self worth.

Rika_Furude posted...

Yeah. They usually arent harming just themselves

Thats the biggest concern for sure.

I've worked at a casino for over 20 years. When you are around gambling on a daily basis you can't help sizing up the faces you see regularly. A lot of them are fun friendly people who will come play a couple days a week. Then there are the hardcore addicts, the ones who have to come in every day, driving in a whiteout blizzard because they need the penny slots. Those who know our drawing schedules better than their grandkids' birthdays. I do feel a bit sad for them that this is what they chose for their lives but I'm in no position to say or fo anything about it.

Nah

I used to be super judgemental. Now at most I tend to give helpful tips like knowing when to cash out, especially with friends who have a gambling addiction. I've seen a lot of failed marriages, especially when I worked doing Income Tax, and it's heartbreaking.

No
ive never gambled before, but I have my vices and wouldnt want to be judged by anyone.

I guess it would depend how much they gamble?

someone buying scratchers or a powerball ticket every once in a while, whatever

but I definitely judge the people who buy like 10-20 scratch tickets at a time, and sit in their car to scratch them and just to go in and buy more. They're never gonna hit the jackpot

Not all, but I doubt there's very many who I wouldn't. It's totally possible to enjoy a spot of gambling without letting it control you, but on the other hand my wastrel, parasite of a grandmother gambled away all the money my grandpa left her and lost her house and then her appartment and now has to live with us, being a hateful, depressing waste of space all the while.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2bc97292.png

Generally, no.

Though I do judge foreigners who gamble over here knowing that its illegal.

voldothegr8 posted...

I mean sure if they have kids and are gambling away their way of life. Otherwise no, don't give a shit what people do with their money. Plus gambling is fun!

This. I love going down on a Saturday and sitting in the sportbook having a few beers while I follow the games I have bet on.

They wouldnt be giving me or the needy the money anyway so I dont care

DrizztLink posted...

Am I not allowed to provide my opinion on your opinion?

Well, less "my opinion" and more "actual knowledge of addiction from both a personal and professional perspective" but you get the idea.

Let me tell you my personal perspective from people Ive known. It starts with borrowing a few dollars to five figures. One family member owed a bookie so much, his brother had to give up his restaurant to settle the debt.

Another guy I knew had family members harassed by collectors and they roughed him up where he stayed in a hospital for 2 weeks. He had no health insurance so his family had to foot the bill for him too.

While you want to sympathize with these folks because of your experience with addiction, the feelings of people that were victimized by gambling addicts should be valid as well.

I'd personally rather you not dehumanize addicts because of your bad experiences, but feel free to keep the air of moral superiority.

It makes your posts hilarious.

A little bit yeah because I grew up with a gambling addict dad and it ruined our family life big time

No more than anyone else addicted to something. Obviously it would be better for them and society if they didn't do it, but they are. No point in getting mad at them or looking down on them. A lot of people struggle with addiction and clearly a lot of things are encouraging them to do it (assuming it's legal where they are). Gambling and alcohol are like the two most common addictive habits in most places and you are going to be using up a lot of energy if you spend time judging everyone who engages in them.

Only broke people who gamble.
If you not good at it and you're broke, you should know to give it up.

DrizztLink posted...

I'd personally rather you not dehumanize addicts because of your bad experiences, but feel free to keep the air of moral superiority.

It makes your posts hilarious.

I'm not even mad if you find my posts hilarious, I find yours quite disappointing.

Oh no, say I haven't disappointed the guy who got pissy because I didn't react politely when he dehumanized people like me.

Anything but that.

The judgment of hypocrites is my hypokryptonite.

What does the Tuesday crew think?

Lion_of_Gemini posted...

What does the Tuesday crew think?

Gambling sux

I enjoy poker, but I view it a little bit differently than most forms of gambling since people are competing against other players instead of the house.

Lion_of_Gemini posted...

Do you judge people who gamble?

No.
Lion_of_Gemini posted...

Particularly when they cant afford it.

Yes.

Like pretty much everything else in life, if you can do something in a safe and sane manner, then it's fine.

If you can't, then it's not fine.

BeTheMan posted...

I enjoy poker, but I view it a little bit differently than most forms of gambling since people are competing against other players instead of the house.

Bit of a misconception. If you're playing at a casino they take what's called the rake, say on average $2 out of every pot at the lowest stakes. So if you're winning a bunch of pots, you're still giving to the house which in turn cuts into profit. Also don't forget to tip your dealer, it's especially bad juju not to after a fat win.

Second, while you're not playing directly against the house, odds are there are multiple players at the table better than you. Sometimes that can be worse, playing against someone who has a beat on you.