Current Events > Better MCU character: She Hulk vs Captain Marvel

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The 2 girls that piss off child's the most in the MCU.

I think She Hulk is the better character, though I like both

I prefer She-Hulk, though I haven't seen Marvels.

Captain Marvel (the movie) is just pretty forgettable and I don't remember Carol having much of a personality.

pegusus123456 posted...

I prefer She-Hulk, though I haven't seen Marvels.

Captain Marvel (the movie) is just pretty forgettable and I don't remember Carol having much of a personality.

I think her personality is a little underrated. She can be a fun character. She just needs better things to do

I remember she was fun in the moment, but the fact I remember barely anything about her makes me think she was just generic.

I did like that in the big climactic fight, she refuses to go straight hand to hand because she's got superpowers and doesn't need to prove shit. That was nice.

Other, gaia
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/26f2586b.jpg

Both are awesome and get way too much unwarranted hate, but I think Ill go with Danvers.

rexcrk posted...

Both are awesome and get way too much unwarranted hate, but I think Ill go with Danvers.

Agreed.

pegusus123456 posted...

I remember she was fun in the moment, but the fact I remember barely anything about her makes me think she was just generic.

I did like that in the big climactic fight, she refuses to go straight hand to hand because she's got superpowers and doesn't need to prove shit. That was nice.

Yeah I'll agree with that

a_riot04 posted...

Other, gaia
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/26f2586b.jpg

Worst MCU character. I don't mind seeing Emilia again though, hopefully de-powered (the powers were temporary)

rexcrk posted...

Both are awesome and get way too much unwarranted hate, but I think Ill go with Danvers.

Sensible people don't hate them

I never watched She-Hulk: Attorney at Law.

Even if I were the type to watch the shows and stuff, I couldn't get past the title.

ReturnOfDevsman posted...

I never watched She-Hulk: Attorney at Law.

Even if I were the type to watch the shows and stuff, I couldn't get past the title.

The title is bad but the show is decent and pretty different from other comic book stuff

She-Hulk by a fairly safe margin.

The She-Hulk show falls apart at the end and its not a good look that in the first episode the shes yelling at her cousin who tried to commit suicide how her life is so much harder than his.

But despite those issues (and a few more), shes a better character because shes a character. She has a believable, and understandable personality.

Carol. doesnt, she is very very powerful but there isnt much there as a character. They start to give her some personality in The Marvels but since only me and 3 other people saw that, who cares (even the people who made it probably didnt watch it).

I say again I have some very strong complaints about She-Hulk the show, but its actually because I liked the character and thought they could do so much more/better with her. Carol I dont care, I dont hate the character and certainly not the actress, but shes powers not a character.

She-Hulk is great and Tatiana Maslany is the best

She-Hulk show was miles better than Cap. Marvel. Unfortunately, Cap. Marvel is a better MCU character, though she really doesn't have much of a personality.

I really enjoyed She-Hulk and I loved the actress

hmnut7 posted...

The She-Hulk show falls apart at the end and its not a good look that in the first episode the shes yelling at her cousin who tried to commit suicide how her life is so much harder than his.

She doesn't do that though, she just says she's better at managing her anger.

Given that Bruce turned into a giant rage monster when he got mad, she was obviously correct.

hmnut7 posted...

She-Hulk by a fairly safe margin.

The She-Hulk show falls apart at the end and its not a good look that in the first episode the shes yelling at her cousin who tried to commit suicide how her life is so much harder than his.

But despite those issues (and a few more), shes a better character because shes a character. She has a believable, and understandable personality.

Carol. doesnt, she is very very powerful but there isnt much there as a character. They start to give her some personality in The Marvels but since only me and 3 other people saw that, who cares (even the people who made it probably didnt watch it).

I say again I have some very strong complaints about She-Hulk the show, but its actually because I liked the character and thought they could do so much more/better with her. Carol I dont care, I dont hate the character and certainly not the actress, but shes powers not a character.

I agree with all of this. That said, I want to see both to continue. The actresses are great and any issues put on these characters is the writers. Captain Marvel keeps getting no name directors

TheGoldenEel posted...

She-Hulk is great and Tatiana Maslany is the best

Agreed, I want a season 2 but chuds may have ruined it

Link_of_time posted...

She-Hulk show was miles better than Cap. Marvel. Unfortunately, Cap. Marvel is a better MCU character, though she really doesn't have much of a personality.

Better how?

EndOfDiscOne posted...

I really enjoyed She-Hulk and I loved the actress

Same boat

pegusus123456 posted...

She doesn't do that though, she just says she's better at managing her anger.

Given that Bruce turned into a giant rage monster when he got mad, she was obviously correct.

Even though they are both hulks, it's different. She Hulk is still Jen and one personality. Hulk has 2 entities in one body.

Also hulk got hunted by the government, gets taken over by a rage monster, went through a painful experiment, fought an evil version of himself, lost his love interest, 3 alien invasions, stuck in space for years while not being in control, a robot invasion and had his arm burned off.

She Hulk actually had it best, got controllable Hulk powers.

That comment was uncalled for

btw I love Tatianas commitment to making up fake marvel controversy every time shes on comedy bang bang

Blue_Popo posted...

Better how?

I guess it depends on how you look at it. Outside of being a pretty badass gun, Carol's character overall is pretty inoffensive. While it makes her a little bland, it also makes an easy fit for the MCU.

Jen's character is just that she's a likeable mess. I find her very endearing, but she doesn't really have a place within the MCU beyond her own.

captain marvel but both are great

Considering Jen was able to control her hulk form pretty quick, it makes sense that shes better at managing her anger. What she said wasnt wrong, shes done it her whole life.

I have no problem with either, I like Carol Danvers more.

She Hulk by a mile. The show was great and Tatiana Maslany was perfect. Carol is a boring character acted boringly.

I like both but carols better.

pegusus123456 posted...

She doesn't do that though, she just says she's better at managing her anger.

Given that Bruce turned into a giant rage monster when he got mad, she was obviously correct.

LightningAce11 posted...

Considering Jen was able to control her hulk form pretty quick, it makes sense that shes better at managing her anger. What she said wasnt wrong, shes done it her whole life.

You both beautifully missed the point.

Its not a question of if she was right or wrong. She was yelling at her cousin who was beaten, attacked, spent his life on the run, in hiding and tried to commit suicide.

I mean Yay she is better at controlling her anger, but she doesnt seem to realize Bruce isnt just a guy who cant control his anger hes been through a lot.

and again I liked the character but that was a scene that caused a lot of hate towards her, I think the level of hate was unwarranted but, I sort of see the point of why people felt her reaction directed at him wasnt called for.

If you disagree fine but thats what Im talking about not she was wrong Bruce is actually better than her

Having seen neither I pick She-hulk as she activates my caveman brain.

She-Hulk show sucked, but She-Hulk herself was enjoyable to watch. I can't get into Carol.

But bruce literally cant control his anger, hes used the hulk as a weapon aimed at bad guys. He even says in The Incredible Hulk that he wants to aim it, not suppress it.

I dont understand the issue. He says Jen needs to control her anger, she says she can because she has been doing it all her life. Bruce is the one able to say aw shucks and be a part of the avengers.

They're both good characters in good films/shows, but She-Hulk is better. That show was probably the best thing in the MCU since Endgame.

hmnut7 posted...

You both beautifully missed the point.

Its not a question of if she was right or wrong. She was yelling at her cousin who was beaten, attacked, spent his life on the run, in hiding and tried to commit suicide.

Shes allowed to yell at her cousin lmao.

I mean Yay she is better at controlling her anger, but she doesnt seem to realize Bruce isnt just a guy who cant control his anger hes been through a lot.

Bruce WAS a guy who can't control his anger. She's known Bruce since before he was hulk do you realize this?

and again I liked the character but that was a scene that caused a lot of hate towards her.

Because people didn't understand the scene. She turn into she hulk then because she wasn't perfect at controlling her anger either.

She-Hulk can be entertaining. Carol is a unlikeble douche.

LightningAce11 posted...

But bruce literally cant control his anger, hes used the hulk as a weapon aimed at bad guys. He even says in The Incredible Hulk that he wants to aim it, not suppress it.

I dont understand the issue. He says Jen needs to control her anger, she says she can because she has been doing it all her life. Bruce is the one able to say aw shucks and be a part of the avengers.

BTW, I'm done talking about that. It's off topic, and I was just highlighting one (actually minor) part of the show, I was not crazy about. If you disagree, you disagree, let's move on.

All good

The_Wheelman1 posted...

She-Hulk can be entertaining. Carol is a unlikeble douche.

So is Tony, but he gets glazed

Toonstrack posted...

So is Tony

He's a likeable douche

specialkid8 posted...

He's a likeable douche

They do the exact same thing.

Actually scratch that, Carol is much nicer than Tony is. Tony sold out and jailed his teammates then gloated in their faces let's keep that in mind.

Carol... what did she actually do to anyone again?

TheGoldenEel posted...

btw I love Tatianas commitment to making up fake marvel controversy every time shes on comedy bang bang

Elaborate

Link_of_time posted...

I guess it depends on how you look at it. Outside of being a pretty badass gun, Carol's character overall is pretty inoffensive. While it makes her a little bland, it also makes an easy fit for the MCU.

Jen's character is just that she's a likeable mess. I find her very endearing, but she doesn't really have a place within the MCU beyond her own.

I'd say makes it harder for her to fit. Her appearance in the 90s sort of makes the Avengers feel less special. She has to be written out of Avengers Endgame due to her power. She also can now restart a sun?

She Hulk literally fit in with hulk, abomination, Daredevil and Wong. MCU characters from different corners. I'd argue she did it better. Carol had chemistry with no one but the other girls in the marvels.
LightningAce11 posted...

Considering Jen was able to control her hulk form pretty quick, it makes sense that shes better at managing her anger. What she said wasnt wrong, shes done it her whole life.

We don't know if it's better control or different power altogether. Bruce had 2 personalities in his body, Jen was never indicated to have that

I'm wondering if the different personality thing was just a way for Bruce to say "it wasn't me it was the alcoho- hulk!" has something like that ever been explored?

I see people don't remember that captain marvel was told to not show her emotions when she was brainwashed by the villain and that they had a tool to keep her powers in check too
that or you guys never saw the movie

Im a fan of She Hulk.

Biofighter55 posted...

I see people don't remember that captain marvel was told to not show her emotions when she was brainwashed by the villain and that they had a tool to keep her powers in check too
that or you guys never saw the movie

A bit of both. Mosr ignored this for culture war reasons

I like Brie as Captain Marvel just the movies had bad writing. Films felt like they were written for teenagers or young adults but by out of touch old people.

specialkid8 posted...

She Hulk by a mile. The show was great and Tatiana Maslany was perfect. Carol is a boring character acted boringly.

I don't think it's the acting, more like the script and given less interactions with fun characters despite being a part of endgame

hmnut7 posted...

You both beautifully missed the point.

Its not a question of if she was right or wrong. She was yelling at her cousin who was beaten, attacked, spent his life on the run, in hiding and tried to commit suicide.

I mean Yay she is better at controlling her anger, but she doesnt seem to realize Bruce isnt just a guy who cant control his anger hes been through a lot.

and again I liked the character but that was a scene that caused a lot of hate towards her, I think the level of hate was unwarranted but, I sort of see the point of why people felt her reaction directed at him wasnt called for.

If you disagree fine but thats what Im talking about not she was wrong Bruce is actually better than her

Yeah I think that scene was just bad writing and the vitriol it created was unwarranted

DUKLegend posted...

She-Hulk show sucked, but She-Hulk herself was enjoyable to watch. I can't get into Carol.

Yeah I know a lot of she Hulk haters don't blame Maslany

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

They're both good characters in good films/shows, but She-Hulk is better. That show was probably the best thing in the MCU since Endgame.

She Hulk being best thing after endgame is a unique opinion

Toonstrack posted...

Shes allowed to yell at her cousin lmao.

Bruce WAS a guy who can't control his anger. She's known Bruce since before he was hulk do you realize this?

Because people didn't understand the scene. She turn into she hulk then because she wasn't perfect at controlling her anger either.

Yeah people don't have younger family members or something. My younger cousins who I love give me shit all the time, doesn't mean I beat them up

Blue_Popo posted...

I'd say makes it harder for her to fit. Her appearance in the 90s sort of makes the Avengers feel less special. She has to be written out of Avengers Endgame due to her power. She also can now restart a sun?

She Hulk literally fit in with hulk, abomination, Daredevil and Wong. MCU characters from different corners. I'd argue she did it better. Carol had chemistry with no one but the other girls in the marvels.

Vastly disagree. At best she's significantly worse Hulk. At worst she's Seinfield-Deadpool. She Hulk doesn't fit with any of the MCU. She's the equivelant of the Defenders in the MCU. Jen's chemistry was just cameos with characters that had the Ragnorak treatment.

Carol, stands as a bit of a blank slate, which makes it easy to write her interactions. As you stated she's already shown good chemistry with Fury and the other Marvels. Her only major downside is being OP which hurts conflict, but it's also Superman's issue so there some footprints to follow.

Also, Carol reigniting a Star is a problem, but Jen breaking through reality and rewriting the ending to her show isn't?

Blue_Popo posted...

Elaborate

I'd say makes it harder for her to fit. Her appearance in the 90s sort of makes the Avengers feel less special. She has to be written out of Avengers Endgame due to her power. She also can now restart a sun?

Shes a Living infinity stone battery. She can do a lot more than a sun.

Carol danvers has been an active superhero for nearly 50 years, being superstrong has always been workable for marvel.

No one says this about scarlet witch, or jean Grey who are both similar tiers of power if not higher.

Toonstrack posted...

Shes a Living infinity stone battery. She can do a lot more than a sun.

Carol danvers has been an active superhero for nearly 50 years, being superstrong has always been workable for marvel.

No one says this about scarlet witch, or jean Grey who are both similar tiers of power if not higher.

Quite frankly Thor with Stormbreaker is arguably stronger and yet nobody complains about him being so strong.

The_Wheelman1 posted...

She-Hulk can be entertaining. Carol is a unlikeble douche.

Somewhat valid. Having her first sequence with the Avengers being her talking down to them doesn't help

Blue_Popo posted...

Somewhat valid. Having her first sequence with the Avengers being her talking down to them doesn't help

When did she talk down to them? She gd compliments them.

Wanda and pietro got introduced trying to kill the avengers yet they don't get any of this flack.

The double standards that get used against carol are so blatsnt sometimes

Toonstrack posted...

So is Tony, but he gets glazed

I don't disagree. Might just be having more adventures on screen. With the Avengers.

But for many it's the fact that he's a guy and she's a girl

Toonstrack posted...

They do the exact same thing.

Actually scratch that, Carol is much nicer than Tony is. Tony sold out and jailed his teammates then gloated in their faces let's keep that in mind.

Carol... what did she actually do to anyone again?

Also valid. Tony also accidentally created a robot that destroyed a country, despite being warned not to touch that tech

LightningAce11 posted...

I'm wondering if the different personality thing was just a way for Bruce to say "it wasn't me it was the alcoho- hulk!" has something like that ever been explored?

I'm sure hulk is a seperate personality, not your drunk half

Biofighter55 posted...

I see people don't remember that captain marvel was told to not show her emotions when she was brainwashed by the villain and that they had a tool to keep her powers in check too
that or you guys never saw the movie

She was still similar after that movie

Easily She-Hulk. She was fine and it's a shame the internet hate brigade means we likely won't see the character again