Current Events > Do you believe in Student Loan Forgiveness?

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TroutPaste 03/11/25 6:46:09 PM #1:	Biden tried, Supreme Court blocked it - Results (113 votes) Yes 81.42% (92 votes) 92 No 18.58% (21 votes) 21 Why or why not? --- https://steamcommunity.com/id/Acerbic89/ https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1488-free-games <cite>TroutPaste posted [p:984327368] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote> Biden tried, Supreme Court blocked it - Results (113 votes) Yes 81.42% (92 votes) 92 No 18.58% (21 votes) 21 Show Voting Form Why or why not? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
misterbum 03/11/25 6:52:11 PM #2:	Considering the overall debt landscape was built upon predatory tactics to take advantage of and siphon as much money from young people who may not know any better, or assume doing so was for the greater good of obtaining a higher education, it only makes sense that there is a reversal and correction of those practices. --- http://imgur.com/a/WqlxL <cite>misterbum posted [p:984327424] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>Considering the overall debt landscape was built upon predatory tactics to take advantage of and siphon as much money from young people who may not know any better, or assume doing so was for the greater good of obtaining a higher education, it only makes sense that there is a reversal and correction of those practices. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scardude 03/11/25 6:52:44 PM #3:	If it's good enough for your politicians. It's good enough for the other people. --- Above all things, never be afraid. The enemy who forces you to retreat is himself afraid of you at that very moment. <cite>Scardude posted [p:984327429] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>If it's good enough for your politicians. It's good enough for the other people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 03/11/25 6:56:16 PM #4:	It's an objectively better system, so I believe in it on a moral level. Believe in it as in "think it's likely?" It's an objectively better system, so of fucking course not, the US has fully embraced ratfucking. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:984327460] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>It's an objectively better system, so I believe in it on a moral level.Believe in it as in "think it's likely?"It's an objectively better system, so of fucking course not, the US has fully embraced ratfucking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PMarth2002 03/11/25 7:01:14 PM #5:	Yes. I think college should be free to students and covered by taxes. --- Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me <cite>PMarth2002 posted [p:984327505] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>Yes. I think college should be free to students and covered by taxes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rexcrk 03/11/25 7:04:13 PM #6:	This will probably make me sound like a piece of shit but honestly, as long as it doesnt significantly affect me financially, Im all for it of course. Its just I found ways to make my own way through life without college because Ive always known what a bullshit scam it was, and Im doing well enough for myself. Most of the people who are saddled with debt, even though it sucks and is an extremely predatory tactic, did make the choice to go to college in the first place. --- I don't even have a pla- <cite>rexcrk posted [p:984327532] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>This will probably make me sound like a piece of shit but honestly, as long as it doesnt significantly affect me financially, Im all for it of course. Its just I found ways to make my own way through life without college because Ive always known what a bullshit scam it was, and Im doing well enough for myself. Most of the people who are saddled with debt, even though it sucks and is an extremely predatory tactic, did make the choice to go to college in the first place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vegy 03/11/25 7:04:14 PM #7:	If da GOP hates it, den I'm all for it tbh --- https://i.imgur.com/EoGWPMu.gif https://i.imgur.com/dWmUFeV.gif https://i.imgur.com/xpoEaeu.gif <cite>Vegy posted [p:984327533] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>If da GOP hates it, den I'm all for it tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thanatos_the_Great 03/11/25 7:05:19 PM #8:	Yes, because education should be a right, not a privilege. --- Re-open board 261. <cite>Thanatos_the_Great posted [p:984327539] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>Yes, because education should be a right, not a privilege.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 03/11/25 7:22:04 PM #9:	PMarth2002 posted... Yes. I think college should be free to students and covered by taxes. Thanatos_the_Great posted... Yes, because education should be a right, not a privilege. These. I took the liberty of forgiving my own student loan by just not paying it. <cite>Glob posted [p:984327694] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>PMarth2002 posted... </cite><quote>Yes. I think college should be free to students and covered by taxes.</quote>Thanatos_the_Great posted... </cite><quote>Yes, because education should be a right, not a privilege.</quote>These.I took the liberty of forgiving my own student loan by just not paying it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 03/11/25 7:23:55 PM #10:	If the rich dont have to pay their loans, why should students? --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:984327713] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>If the rich dont have to pay their loans, why should students? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 03/11/25 7:26:09 PM #11:	Education is an investment in the population. A more educated populace is a more productive one. More productivity means more tax revenue. It should absolutely be 100% fully funded by the government. --- Jump! Jump! Slide! Slide! <cite>ZMythos posted [p:984327744] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>Education is an investment in the population. A more educated populace is a more productive one. More productivity means more tax revenue. It should absolutely be 100% fully funded by the government. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 03/11/25 7:28:48 PM #12:	Yes, and more than that: All student loans should be capped at a small interest percent, like 2-5%, and the total amount a loan can cost is no greater than 50% more than the initial amount of the loan. So if you were to take on a $100,000 loan, the most you could ever wind up paying is $150,000 on the individual loan. The fact that loans have been handled the way they have where you can pay for years and wind up owing the same amount of money or more after 10/15/20 years is absolute insanity and the fact no politician ever ran against that insane system is almost as telling and insane. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:984327771] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>Yes, and more than that:All student loans should be capped at a small interest percent, like 2-5%, and the total amount a loan can cost is no greater than 50% more than the initial amount of the loan.So if you were to take on a $100,000 loan, the most you could ever wind up paying is $150,000 on the individual loan. The fact that loans have been handled the way they have where you can pay for years and wind up owing the same amount of money or more after 10/15/20 years is absolute insanity and the fact no politician ever ran against that insane system is almost as telling and insane.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Voidgolem 03/11/25 7:34:33 PM #13:	I believe education should be free ("wah wah tax dollars not actually free" at functionally no cost when divided amongst the populace. Shut up), and seeing as we are decades into making it the opposite of that I of course also support student loan forgiveness. My debts are settled besides a few ~200$ loans left that I can't be assed to finish off now to save like 40 dollars in interest for the remaining interval (even if the method to do so were working, which it does not currently thanks to the administration's ratfucking), I'd get functionally nothing out of this. It should happen anyway. --- Why not go all in? <cite>Voidgolem posted [p:984327833] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>I believe education should be free ("wah wah tax dollars not actually free" at functionally no cost when divided amongst the populace. Shut up), and seeing as we are decades into making it the opposite of that I of course also support student loan forgiveness.My debts are settled besides a few ~200$ loans left that I can't be assed to finish off now to save like 40 dollars in interest for the remaining interval (even if the method to do so were working, which it does not currently thanks to the administration's ratfucking), I'd get functionally nothing out of this. It should happen anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kai_Laguna 03/11/25 7:35:37 PM #14:	I don't think education should cost anything. <cite>Kai_Laguna posted [p:984327844] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>I don't think education should cost anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Link_of_time 03/11/25 9:14:42 PM #15:	no, but I believe the interest should be forgiven and going forward student loans should be nearly interest free. The point here is to invest in our future citizens, not to make money. Short term profit doesn't secure our economy. <cite>Link_of_time posted [p:984328928] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>no, but I believe the interest should be forgiven and going forward student loans should be nearly interest free. The point here is to invest in our future citizens, not to make money. Short term profit doesn't secure our economy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass 03/11/25 9:16:41 PM #16:	Yes, fuck the rich. It's about time the common person just trying to do right and get an education should stop getting fucked. Education should be free anyway. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Bass posted [p:984328953] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>Yes, fuck the rich. It's about time the common person just trying to do right and get an education should stop getting fucked. Education should be free anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 03/11/25 9:19:32 PM #17:	Absolutely, student loan debt is crushing an entire generation financially --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:984328979] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely, student loan debt is crushing an entire generation financially</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 03/11/25 9:20:28 PM #18:	MC_BatCommander posted... Absolutely, student loan debt is crushing an entire generation financially Donnie fixed it by making it so no one can afford to go to college anymore so they won't have to take out student loans! Checkmate, libs! --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:984328990] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>MC_BatCommander posted... </cite><quote>Absolutely, student loan debt is crushing an entire generation financially</quote>Donnie fixed it by making it so no one can afford to go to college anymore so they won't have to take out student loans! Checkmate, libs! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 03/11/25 9:20:45 PM #19:	I have no issues, but we should also reform the entire system so it's not just a one time bailout. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:984328993] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>I have no issues, but we should also reform the entire system so it's not just a one time bailout.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frosted_Midna 03/11/25 9:25:58 PM #20:	If rich people don't pay anything back, neither does everyone else. --- It's more than good, it's alive! Warning: May contain stone hat pieces http://i.imgur.com/N6v5qZx.jpg <cite>Frosted_Midna posted [p:984329044] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>If rich people don't pay anything back, neither does everyone else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philoktetes 03/11/25 9:29:00 PM #21:	no, it's socialism --- I don't think so, Tim. ~~ Pizza Crew ~~ <cite>Philoktetes posted [p:984329077] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>no, it's socialism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 03/11/25 9:29:43 PM #22:	Frosted_Midna posted... If rich people don't pay anything back, neither does everyone else. One of the biggest issues with student loan forgiveness as a political selling point is how much it forgives for very high income professionals. A lot of the loudest voices for it tend to be higher income earners It's not a reason not to, but even the measures Biden tried were extremely unpopular --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:984329090] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>Frosted_Midna posted... </cite><quote>If rich people don't pay anything back, neither does everyone else.</quote>One of the biggest issues with student loan forgiveness as a political selling point is how much it forgives for very high income professionals. A lot of the loudest voices for it tend to be higher income earnersIt's not a reason not to, but even the measures Biden tried were extremely unpopular</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NO2_Fiend 03/11/25 9:33:33 PM #23:	No. It doesn't fix the problem so we'd be right back where we started in a few years. More should be invested in schools so they are A LOT cheaper as well as cutting uneeded administrative costs. Loans should be interest free. For those strapped with loans they have no possible way to pay back bankrupsy should be an option. --- I'm an artist at what I do. I fuel the fire, watch it burn, and laugh all the while. <cite>NO2_Fiend posted [p:984329130] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>No.It doesn't fix the problem so we'd be right back where we started in a few years.More should be invested in schools so they are A LOT cheaper as well as cutting uneeded administrative costs. Loans should be interest free. For those strapped with loans they have no possible way to pay back bankrupsy should be an option.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 03/11/25 9:37:56 PM #24:	MC_BatCommander posted... Absolutely, student loan debt is crushing an entire generation financially https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d01ce959.jpg --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Vetinari 2028. Make Ankh-Morpork Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:984329167] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>MC_BatCommander posted... </cite><quote>Absolutely, student loan debt is crushing an entire generation financially</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d01ce959.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BucketCat 03/11/25 9:43:07 PM #25:	yeah. tbh, a lot of growing up was hearing teachers say "you need to go to college if you want to be successful" when college is a risk. there is absolutely no guarantee that you'll get a job with that degree. I know people who have a master's degree and they work at a restaurant. Hell, I know someone who has a teaching license and she drives uber. and to the people who say "oh, well you agreed to the loan, you have to pay it back"... what lender in their right mind will give $100k to a 17-18 year old kid unless it is predatory and has strings attached? Nobody in their right mind is going to lend $100k to a kid for a house, a business, etc. because it's a stupid decision on the lenders part... but for school? Yeah, here's the money, have fun paying it back for the rest of your life. So yeah, I think schooling should be either paid in full by the government or at least heavily subsidized. I do think education is important, and anyone who wants to further their education should be able to do so. I don't think people should be punished for trying to better their lives. --- ? <cite>BucketCat posted [p:984329219] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>yeah.tbh, a lot of growing up was hearing teachers say "you need to go to college if you want to be successful" when college is a risk. there is absolutely no guarantee that you'll get a job with that degree.I know people who have a master's degree and they work at a restaurant. Hell, I know someone who has a teaching license and she drives uber.and to the people who say "oh, well you agreed to the loan, you have to pay it back"... what lender in their right mind will give $100k to a 17-18 year old kid unless it is predatory and has strings attached?Nobody in their right mind is going to lend $100k to a kid for a house, a business, etc. because it's a stupid decision on the lenders part... but for school? Yeah, here's the money, have fun paying it back for the rest of your life.So yeah, I think schooling should be either paid in full by the government or at least heavily subsidized. I do think education is important, and anyone who wants to further their education should be able to do so. I don't think people should be punished for trying to better their lives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TroutPaste 03/12/25 2:40:40 PM #27:	80% --- https://steamcommunity.com/id/Acerbic89/ https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1488-free-games <cite>TroutPaste posted [p:984335839] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>80% </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foxhound101 03/12/25 2:55:51 PM #28:	NO2_Fiend posted... No. It doesn't fix the problem so we'd be right back where we started in a few years. This. A one-time dept forgiveness is not a real plan. The entire college ecosystem and needs to be re-evaluated. Alternatively I'd also support lowering the taxes for lower income brackets. That way everyone that did/didn't go to the college can get a benefit. --- There are a ton of misconceptions about recycling. Learn how to better at recycling: https://onbetterliving.com/simplify-recycling/ <cite>foxhound101 posted [p:984336061] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>NO2_Fiend posted... </cite><quote>No.It doesn't fix the problem so we'd be right back where we started in a few years.</quote>This. A one-time dept forgiveness is not a real plan. The entire college ecosystem and needs to be re-evaluated. Alternatively I'd also support lowering the taxes for lower income brackets. That way everyone that did/didn't go to the college can get a benefit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bugmeat 03/12/25 3:09:46 PM #29:	Change the laws so that these sort of ultra predatory loans are no longer allowed. Now we recalculate the current loans with the new reasonable rules and rates. Anyone who has hit the new payoff level on their loan already will be clear of their debt. Everyone else just keeps paying under the recalculated terms. This seems reasonable to me. People still pay back the money that they borrowed but they are now doing it under fair terms. --- It's not a war crime the first time. <cite>Bugmeat posted [p:984336239] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>Change the laws so that these sort of ultra predatory loans are no longer allowed. Now we recalculate the current loans with the new reasonable rules and rates. Anyone who has hit the new payoff level on their loan already will be clear of their debt. Everyone else just keeps paying under the recalculated terms. This seems reasonable to me. People still pay back the money that they borrowed but they are now doing it under fair terms.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lonestar2000 03/12/25 3:18:32 PM #30:	PMarth2002 posted... Yes. I think college should be free to students and covered by taxes. --- Rumble Roses. Someone enters the room. Them: O_O Me: What?! I always play games without my pants on!- Inmate 922335 #ImprisonToadDickTrump <cite>Lonestar2000 posted [p:984336365] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>PMarth2002 posted... </cite><quote>Yes. I think college should be free to students and covered by taxes.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PissedOffMonk 03/12/25 3:31:58 PM #31:	The term forgiveness is what irks me. The applicants didnt do anything wrong to be forgiven if the loans were predatory. <cite>PissedOffMonk posted [p:984336566] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>The term forgiveness is what irks me. The applicants didnt do anything wrong to be forgiven if the loans were predatory.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sonixs 03/12/25 3:44:50 PM #32:	Yes. 13 years from now my student loans will be forgiven and there's nothing they can do to spot it. It's in the contract I signed. <cite>Sonixs posted [p:984336696] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>Yes. 13 years from now my student loans will be forgiven and there's nothing they can do to spot it. It's in the contract I signed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sonixs 03/12/25 3:46:32 PM #33:	I've paid 26 grand over 11 years on my 49k loan. I still owe 52k lol <cite>Sonixs posted [p:984336713] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>I've paid 26 grand over 11 years on my 49k loan. I still owe 52k lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Error1355 03/12/25 3:49:01 PM #34:	As someone who was able to fully pay off my own student loans? ~~Yeah, fucking absolutely. Why the fuck should I care if a bank makes more interest off of you or not.~~ --- Up to no good searching for tomorrow Misunderstood when you're headed straight into the flames <cite>Error1355 posted [p:984336735] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>As someone who was able to fully pay off my own student loans?Yeah, fucking absolutely. Why the fuck should I care if a bank makes more interest off of you or not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfDevsman 03/12/25 3:54:58 PM #35:	shrugs I don't have a problem with it. I was a lot more up in arms about it when I had just finished paying a bunch of them off myself, but that was a long time ago and it doesn't seem like as big of a deal anymore. I get the whole thing with you agreed to it you should honor it, but look, these kids are like 17-18 years old when they get tangled up in this. What the hell do they know about money? Bare minimum, we should have a law where lenders have to sit them down and walk them through the payment schedule instead of just handing it to them knowing there's almost no chance they read it, understand it or ask questions about it. "So your last payment is due when you're 50, and over that time you'll have paid back 238% of what you borrowed." Would I hope that an 18 year old is mature enough to have an idea of what they're getting into? Sure. Do I find that realistic? Hell no. --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ <cite>ReturnOfDevsman posted [p:984336794] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>shrugs I don't have a problem with it.I was a lot more up in arms about it when I had just finished paying a bunch of them off myself, but that was a long time ago and it doesn't seem like as big of a deal anymore.I get the whole thing with you agreed to it you should honor it, but look, these kids are like 17-18 years old when they get tangled up in this. What the hell do they know about money? Bare minimum, we should have a law where lenders have to sit them down and walk them through the payment schedule instead of just handing it to them knowing there's almost no chance they read it, understand it or ask questions about it. "So your last payment is due when you're 50, and over that time you'll have paid back 238% of what you borrowed."Would I hope that an 18 year old is mature enough to have an idea of what they're getting into? Sure. Do I find that realistic? Hell no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 03/12/25 4:03:38 PM #36:	Error1355 posted... As someone who was able to fully pay off my own student loans? ~~Yeah, fucking absolutely. Why the fuck should I care if a bank makes more interest off of you or not.~~ Same --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:984336903] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>Error1355 posted... </cite><quote>As someone who was able to fully pay off my own student loans?Yeah, fucking absolutely. Why the fuck should I care if a bank makes more interest off of you or not.</quote>Same</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 03/12/25 4:13:36 PM #37:	Error1355 posted... As someone who was able to fully pay off my own student loans? ~~Yeah, fucking absolutely. Why the fuck should I care if a bank makes more interest off of you or not.~~ "B-b-b-but the banks might retaliate against the rest of us to make up for their lost interest!" - some dumbass chud somewhere --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:984336994] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>Error1355 posted... </cite><quote>As someone who was able to fully pay off my own student loans?Yeah, fucking absolutely. Why the fuck should I care if a bank makes more interest off of you or not.</quote>"B-b-b-but the banks might retaliate against the rest of us to make up for their lost interest!" - some dumbass chud somewhere</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malenia 03/12/25 4:25:49 PM #38:	keeping politics out of it, I dont think you should agree to borrow money then decide its not fair you have to pay it back. No one forced you. Same idea as a credit card or bank loan. no, you dont need a degree to make good money, unless there is a specific field you want to work in sure, but again thats a want not a need. <cite>Malenia posted [p:984337105] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>keeping politics out of it, I dont think you should agree to borrow money then decide its not fair you have to pay it back. No one forced you. Same idea as a credit card or bank loan. no, you dont need a degree to make good money, unless there is a specific field you want to work in sure, but again thats a want not a need. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 03/12/25 4:43:18 PM #39:	NO2_Fiend posted... No. It doesn't fix the problem so we'd be right back where we started in a few years. --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif https://i.imgur.com/8mWCvA4.gif <cite>FL81 posted [p:984337262] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>NO2_Fiend posted... </cite><quote>No.It doesn't fix the problem so we'd be right back where we started in a few years.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sonixs 03/12/25 5:28:12 PM #40:	Keep in mind that current "forgiveness" is done after 25 years when people have paid off way more than their principal already. <cite>Sonixs posted [p:984337730] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>Keep in mind that current "forgiveness" is done after 25 years when people have paid off way more than their principal already. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_____Cait 03/12/25 6:16:19 PM #42:	Again, when it comes to student loan forgiveness, a lot of it has been twisted by media. Most of the forgiveness went out to people who went to well documented fraud schools like Art Institute or ITT. They lied to students about payment amounts, types of loans, payment plans, job rates, etc. Thats why they were forgiven. --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 <cite>_____Cait posted [p:984338287] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>Again, when it comes to student loan forgiveness, a lot of it has been twisted by media.Most of the forgiveness went out to people who went to well documented fraud schools like Art Institute or ITT. They lied to students about payment amounts, types of loans, payment plans, job rates, etc. Thats why they were forgiven.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 03/12/25 7:09:13 PM #43:	_____Cait posted... Again, when it comes to student loan forgiveness, a lot of it has been twisted by media. Most of the forgiveness went out to people who went to well documented fraud schools like Art Institute or ITT. They lied to students about payment amounts, types of loans, payment plans, job rates, etc. Thats why they were forgiven. tbh i don't really care in regards to if they were lied to or not by a fraud school. The whole system effectively groomed people into taking on these loans through a variety of FOMO, quick/knee-jerk life or career decisions, inducing delusions of grandeur, etc and then making people feel they had to go to college right away. And it all led to a market flooded by people with degrees with not nearly enough jobs. Almost as if by design. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:984338788] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>_____Cait posted... </cite><quote>Again, when it comes to student loan forgiveness, a lot of it has been twisted by media.Most of the forgiveness went out to people who went to well documented fraud schools like Art Institute or ITT. They lied to students about payment amounts, types of loans, payment plans, job rates, etc. Thats why they were forgiven.</quote>tbh i don't really care in regards to if they were lied to or not by a fraud school.The whole system effectively groomed people into taking on these loans through a variety of FOMO, quick/knee-jerk life or career decisions, inducing delusions of grandeur, etc and then making people feel they had to go to college right away. And it all led to a market flooded by people with degrees with not nearly enough jobs. Almost as if by design.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_____Cait 03/13/25 7:16:09 AM #44:	wackyteen posted... tbh i don't really care in regards to if they were lied to or not by a fraud school. The whole system effectively groomed people into taking on these loans through a variety of FOMO, quick/knee-jerk life or career decisions, inducing delusions of grandeur, etc and then making people feel they had to go to college right away. And it all led to a market flooded by people with degrees with not nearly enough jobs. Almost as if by design. Yeah. Blame the system. It was broken by design. Thank goodness some people got relief because Betsy Devos screwed up so badly. --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 <cite>_____Cait posted [p:984343337] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>wackyteen posted... </cite><quote>tbh i don't really care in regards to if they were lied to or not by a fraud school.The whole system effectively groomed people into taking on these loans through a variety of FOMO, quick/knee-jerk life or career decisions, inducing delusions of grandeur, etc and then making people feel they had to go to college right away. And it all led to a market flooded by people with degrees with not nearly enough jobs. Almost as if by design.</quote>Yeah. Blame the system. It was broken by design. Thank goodness some people got relief because Betsy Devos screwed up so badly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
reincarnator07 03/13/25 8:42:54 AM #45:	LightSnake posted... I have no issues, but we should also reform the entire system so it's not just a one time bailout. This is the way. On top of all the arguments made by others here, an educated society is well worth the cost even if we ignore that graduates on average earn significantly more money than those without a degree. It pays for itself in the long term and allows for far more people to actually earn their way to success rather than it just being based on your parents. --- Fan of metal? Don't mind covers? Check out my youtube and give me some feedback http://www.youtube.com/sircaballero <cite>reincarnator07 posted [p:984343721] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>I have no issues, but we should also reform the entire system so it's not just a one time bailout.</quote>This is the way.On top of all the arguments made by others here, an educated society is well worth the cost even if we ignore that graduates on average earn significantly more money than those without a degree. It pays for itself in the long term and allows for far more people to actually earn their way to success rather than it just being based on your parents.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Will_VIIII 03/13/25 8:44:56 AM #47:	Given that a bunch of already millionaires and politicians were allowed to take PPP loans and get those forgiven, yes. --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:984343732] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>Given that a bunch of already millionaires and politicians were allowed to take PPP loans and get those forgiven, yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 03/13/25 8:46:10 AM #48:	If DoED goes away then Trump has done what Biden couldn't and effectively forgiven most student loans --- Science and Algorithms <cite>lilORANG posted [p:984343741] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>If DoED goes away then Trump has done what Biden couldn't and effectively forgiven most student loans</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tripleh213 03/13/25 8:46:33 AM #49:	Yes --- Bucks World Champions 2021 PS4 looks great <cite>tripleh213 posted [p:984343744] in Do you bel... [t:80948634]...</cite> <quote>Yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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