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Delirious_Beard
02/16/25 5:48:59 PM
#54:


ZMythos posted...
TC sure does make a lot of topics about Palestinian supporters.

his entire gimmick is basically the equivalent of tabloid headlines complaining about a few nobodies on twitter

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HashtagSEP
02/16/25 6:11:49 PM
#55:


ai123 posted...
Less than 20 were doing that. Hundreds marched in Washington.

So why make it sound like that's what the movement as a whole preferred to do? I mean, that's clearly the way the media are spinning it, but you don't have to believe their lies if you don't want to.

I think the fact that anybody chose to do it at all shows that bad faith actors latched on to the movement, which is a big part of the point people have been making about all this, to begin with. Yes, there are absolutely people that very much took this seriously, and for good reasons. But there are also definitely people that were bad faith actors who tried to disguise their actions as part of the movement, and we had a few of those on this board. Some of them were also literally leaders in things like the "Abandon Harris" movement, almost outright by their own admittance.

But you're right, I chose my words poorly. It was a bit of an emotional, frustrated response. This isn't something the majority of the movement is doing, you are correct. The bad faith actors just make it possible for the media to focus on shit like this to begin with.

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ai123
02/16/25 6:15:42 PM
#56:


HashtagSEP posted...
I think the fact that anybody chose to do it at all shows that bad faith actors latched on to the movement, which is a big part of the point people have been making about all this, to begin with. Yes, there are absolutely people that very much took this seriously, and for good reasons. But there are also definitely people that were bad faith actors who tried to disguise their actions as part of the movement, and we had a few of those on this board.

But you're right, I chose my words poorly. It was a bit of an emotional, frustrated response. This isn't something the majority of the movement is doing, you are correct. The bad faith actors just make it possible for the media to focus on shit like this to begin with.
Fair response. I don't disagree.

There are bad actors in the movement, like there are in all movements. These ones are being used by many in the media and online to try and push their own agenda.

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mybbqrules
02/16/25 8:10:44 PM
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Anything but protesting the Trump administration actively escalating the genocide, I guess.

SO WEIRD how there hasn't been nearly the same level of outrage thrown at Trump as was thrown at Biden/Harris.

Just SOOOOOOOO WEEEEEEEIRD you guys.


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Smashingpmkns
02/16/25 8:12:58 PM
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There's been a shit ton of protests against Trump from the movement.

There was a huge one in NYC yesterday.

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Accolon
02/16/25 8:14:19 PM
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Can't tell if there's been less protests, or if the media just isn't covering them anymore, since their guy is in office now

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Sir_Will
02/16/25 8:20:05 PM
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Foppe posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/90591f5f.jpg
Damn, Hulk. Nice.

FFTHEWINNER posted...
The entire film and main character is propaganda anyway.
Oh brother....

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cjsdowg
02/16/25 8:23:04 PM
#61:


mybbqrules posted...
Anything but protesting the Trump administration actively escalating the genocide, I guess.

SO WEIRD how there hasn't been nearly the same level of outrage thrown at Trump as was thrown at Biden/Harris.

Just SOOOOOOOO WEEEEEEEIRD you guys.

  1. There are still a lot of protest going on.
  2. Many early protesters were beat ,arrest , and deported under Biden.
  3. You are literally using the talking point that Republicans do suggesting that protesters are real.
  4. Also in a topic about people protesting you saying where are the protesters .

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LightSnake
02/16/25 8:32:48 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
1. There are still a lot of protest going on.
2. Many early protesters were beat ,arrest , and deported under Biden.
3. You are literally using the talking point that Republicans do suggesting that protesters are real.
4. Also in a topic about people protesting you saying where are the protesters .

Don't even try this "Biden treated the protesters so BADLY" garbage.

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Humble_Novice
02/16/25 9:22:30 PM
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Of all things to protest against, why a movie?

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Rika_Furude
02/16/25 9:23:50 PM
#64:


Humble_Novice posted...
Of all things to protest against, why a movie?
Same reason other failed protests are against meaningless/dumb shit. Its all about optics and feeling good, not results.
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tb333
02/16/25 9:30:41 PM
#65:


LightSnake posted...
Don't even try this "Biden treated the protesters so BADLY" garbage.
Are beatings not bad? And know one thinks trumps gonna be better, they dont want to die.

Rika_Furude posted...
Same reason other failed protests are against meaningless/dumb shit. Its all about optics and feeling good, not results.
Why are you feeling more rage over this seemingly then trump or "israel"?

Humble_Novice posted...
Of all things to protest against, why a movie?
  1. Its about how pro-"israel" and ant-Palestine western media can be.

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Rika_Furude
02/16/25 9:46:41 PM
#66:


tb333 posted...
Are beatings not bad? And know one thinks trumps gonna be better, they dont want to die.

Why are you feeling more rage over this seemingly then trump or "israel"?

1. Its about how pro-"israel" and ant-Palestine western media can be.

i usually dont feel rage whenever a group of idiots do something stupid and I certainly dont feel rage now

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tb333
02/16/25 10:01:26 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
i usually dont feel rage whenever a group of idiots do something stupid and I certainly dont feel rage now
Oh, so you dont like protests. Ok doky

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Rika_Furude
02/16/25 10:13:08 PM
#68:


tb333 posted...
Oh, so you dont like protests. Ok doky
I dont like dumb, pointless protests
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HashtagSEP
02/17/25 12:34:37 AM
#69:


tb333 posted...
Oh, so you dont like protests. Ok doky

Why are we pretending all protests are the same? If somebody said "I didn't like J6," would you post "Oh, so you dont like protests. Ok doky"?

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Smashingpmkns
02/17/25 12:53:01 AM
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Idk i think including a Mossad agent super hero in a comic book movie made by the largest entertainment company in the world in this political climate is one of the biggest dumb fuck moves they could have made and worth protesting.

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LightSnake
02/17/25 12:56:30 AM
#71:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Idk i think including a Mossad agent super hero in a comic book movie made by the largest entertainment company in the world in this political climate is one of the biggest dumb fuck moves they could have made and worth protesting.

They completely took out the "mossad agent" thing, she's just former Black Widow who happens to be Israeli.

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012yArthur0
02/17/25 1:11:19 AM
#72:


Humble_Novice posted...
https://xcancel.com/8zal/status/1890433684114755632
What is xcancel?

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HashtagSEP
02/17/25 1:15:15 AM
#73:


012yArthur0 posted...
What is xcancel?

It lets you view full X threads without logging in, and without giving them traffic.

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012yArthur0
02/17/25 1:16:26 AM
#74:


HashtagSEP posted...
It lets you view full X threads without logging in, and without giving them traffic.
I see.

I didn't read the link so I just clicked thinking it was just X and saw the redirect link and scared the shit out of me lol

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HashtagSEP
02/17/25 1:17:09 AM
#75:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Idk i think including a Mossad agent super hero in a comic book movie made by the largest entertainment company in the world in this political climate is one of the biggest dumb fuck moves they could have made and worth protesting.

You might want to read the topic.

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HashtagSEP
02/17/25 1:17:43 AM
#76:


012yArthur0 posted...
I see.

I didn't read the link so I just clicked thinking it was just X and saw the redirect link and scared the shit out of me lol

Yeah, if you don't know what it is, the appearance is... Something.

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012yArthur0
02/17/25 1:27:48 AM
#77:


tb333 posted...
Oh, so you dont like protests. Ok doky
He has a point though. Not to mention that protesting over entertainment that people like (AKA Marvels) is a good way to alienate people.

It reminds me of "stop oil" protests that just goes around and throwing soup or ink in art or something. It does absolutely nothing but piss people off.

HashtagSEP posted...
Yeah, if you don't know what it is, the appearance is... Something.
It sure does.

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tb333
02/17/25 3:22:37 PM
#78:


HashtagSEP posted...
Why are we pretending all protests are the same? If somebody said "I didn't like J6," would you post "Oh, so you dont like protests. Ok doky"?
Never said they were the same. I just remeber that user hating protests regardless of cause, because they were "annoying".

Smashingpmkns posted...
Idk i think including a Mossad agent super hero in a comic book movie made by the largest entertainment company in the world in this political climate is one of the biggest dumb fuck moves they could have made and worth protesting.

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Rika_Furude
02/17/25 3:23:44 PM
#79:


tb333 posted...
Never said they were the same. I just remeber that user hating protests regardless of cause, because they were "annoying".
youre inventing fan-fiction in an attempt to not embarrass yourself. Youre just posting contrarian BS as is your gimmick
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tb333
02/17/25 3:31:16 PM
#80:


Rika_Furude posted...
youre inventing fan-fiction in an attempt to not embarrass yourself. Youre just posting contrarian BS as is your gimmick
I have you tagged as anti-protest. And "embarrassed" at gamefaqs? Im just against genacide.

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Rika_Furude
02/17/25 3:33:14 PM
#81:


tb333 posted...
I have you tagged as anti-protest. And "embarrassed" at gamefaqs? Im just against genacide.
Trolls tag people as whatever they want whenever they want, your tag doesnt mean anything
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tb333
02/17/25 3:42:27 PM
#82:


Rika_Furude posted...
Trolls tag people as whatever they want whenever they want, your tag doesnt mean anything
Sorry that I cant remeber every poster who makes an argument, thats what the tag system is for. Do you know what contrarian means? Im not the only one who is bothered by whats happening.

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Rika_Furude
02/17/25 4:06:34 PM
#83:


tb333 posted...
Sorry that I cant remeber every poster who makes an argument, thats what the tag system is for. Do you know what contrarian means? Im not the only one who is bothered by whats happening.
i dont really care about the baseless accusations of a troll with a fake tag
youre contrarian because youre in here making arguments with people just to make arguments. You arent genuine and you certainly do not care about whats happening.
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Newave
02/17/25 4:19:53 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/89a4c44e.jpg
I don't like Disney, I don't like Captain America and I don't like going to the cinema.... but I might just watch this movie just to spite these moops

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ai123
02/17/25 4:23:00 PM
#85:


There have been anti Trump protests in Seattle, Washington, and New York.

But for some reason or another, people only want to talk about 20 protestors outside a cinema.

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tb333
02/17/25 4:25:44 PM
#86:


Rika_Furude posted...
i dont really care about the baseless accusations of a troll with a fake tag
youre contrarian because youre in here making arguments with people just to make arguments. You arent genuine and you certainly do not care about whats happening.
Every accusation realy us a confession, huh? Anyway theres context to why its a bad look for the movie.

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tb333
02/17/25 4:28:28 PM
#87:


ai123 posted...
There have been anti Trump protests in Seattle, Washington, and New York.

But for some reason or another, people only want to talk about 20 protestors outside a cinema.
Also this. Why so much attention to a small protest?

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Toonstrack
02/17/25 4:29:17 PM
#88:


tb333 posted...
Every accusation realy us a confession, huh? Anyway theres context to why its a bad look for the movie.

So no movie can use any characters from an actual real country that exists now?

Is this just for the duration of the war or in perpetuity? We can't have German, Russian or Israeli good guys in a movie? What is the end goal here?

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tb333
02/17/25 4:53:33 PM
#89:


Toonstrack posted...
So no movie can use any characters from an actual real country that exists now?

Is this just for the duration of the war or in perpetuity? We can't have German, Russian or Israeli good guys in a movie? What is the end goal here?
That doesnt seem to be the argument, but but if there was a russian hero movie with what there doing in ukraine I could see a protest happaning. Is Germany doing a genacide now? Or do you meen nazis. Because If there was a nazi super hero there would def be protests. The point is to not glorify the Idf.

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Toonstrack
02/17/25 5:25:50 PM
#90:


tb333 posted...
That doesnt seem to be the argument, but but if there was a russian hero movie with what there doing in ukraine I could see a protest happaning. Is Germany doing a genacide now? Or do you meen nazis. Because If there was a nazi super hero there would def be protests. The point is to not glorify the Idf.

Theres a russian superhero and ex kgb agent in all of the avengers movies and theres 2 in thunderbolts.

Theres no mention of Ruth bat-seraph in this movie being IDF, it just says she's from israel

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Sir_Will
02/17/25 5:55:32 PM
#91:


tb333 posted...
but but if there was a russian hero movie
*pushes Red Guardian into the closet* Nothing to see here.

I do think deciding to use her in the first place was a mistake. But it does seem like they've erased or downplayed all the worst aspects. She was written in before the Oct 7 stuff happened, though obviously things were still bad before that.

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Zikten
02/17/25 5:58:09 PM
#92:


Toonstrack posted...
Theres a russian superhero and ex kgb agent in all of the avengers movies and theres 2 in thunderbolts.

Theres no mention of Ruth bat-seraph in this movie being IDF, it just says she's from israel
I think she's Mossad, not IDF. Which I think is like Israel's CIA

But that is still bad. Wasn't Mossad the ones who did that incident where they blew up cell phones or whatever and killed a bunch of innocent people? Just to take out a few terrorists
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ironman2009
02/17/25 6:05:24 PM
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it's a fuckin movie.

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tb333
02/17/25 6:08:17 PM
#94:


Sir_Will posted...
*pushes Red Guardian into the closet* Nothing to see here.

I do think deciding to use her in the first place was a mistake. But it does seem like they've erased or downplayed all the worst aspects.
Was just pointing out theres a difference and the protest didnt happen in a void. Also lol for fat thumbed double but.

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LightSnake
02/17/25 6:09:45 PM
#95:


Zikten posted...
I think she's Mossad, not IDF. Which I think is like Israel's CIA

But that is still bad. Wasn't Mossad the ones who did that incident where they blew up cell phones or whatever and killed a bunch of innocent people? Just to take out a few terrorists


Yep, that was the Mossad. I think the exact count was about 40 Hezbollah members and 12 civilians

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Charged151
02/17/25 6:13:21 PM
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I heard there were reshoots for this movie due to the Israel/Gaza conflict. If true, I imagine it had to do with Sabra.

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Toonstrack
02/17/25 6:54:18 PM
#97:


Zikten posted...
I think she's Mossad, not IDF. Which I think is like Israel's CIA

And there's many marvel characters with ties to the CIA or other intelligence agencies.

Would you take seriously someone from the middle east saying that we shouldn't use captain america because of American imperialism? No, of course not.

Its true that she's often used in the comics as a mouthpiece for Israel's side of the conflict, and that was the case longer before the MCU was even a thing. But that hardly makes her entire character unable to be used, nd avoiding using her at all would be the exact kind of avoiding any sort of relevant world relevance that some of you argue against.

But in the end nothing in the movie is even about any of that. Its just stated she's Israeli, thats literally the beginning snd the end of it. If they can adapt the racist origins of the mandarin to modern day they can have an Israeli superhero. Theres just going to be changes made.

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creativerealms
02/17/25 7:05:58 PM
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What a stupid fight.

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Humble_Novice
02/18/25 11:00:32 PM
#99:


creativerealms posted...
What a stupid fight.
Some people will just make a cause out of everything now, it seems.

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