Current Events > Netflix's The Sandman has been canceled, and will end with season two

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Maybe maybe not sounds like it was going to be the last season regardless but it is telling that statement for season two avoids someone's name.

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gaimen does not own sandman DC does

Damn it neal... am I gonna have to hide all your books when I have people over.

LightSnake posted...

"Hugely successful" means little to Netflix. They had a bad habit of putting out massively bloated budgets, hiding the balls, and even if a show is a huge success, it might not be enough of one to justify that budget continuing.

Netflix is VERY bad this way and it's why so many good shows don't continue on the network.

This, if your show is expensive and it's a Netflix Exclusive...you have to be "very very successful" or you're going to get canned. There's a reason Netflix went on a cancellation spree when Stranger Things season 1 was an absolute hit.

Doesnt Netflix cancel everything after 1-2 seasons ?

Also being very successful doesn't necessarily mean that you have to keep making it. Maybe the pull from the existing season(s) of the show is enough to draw in subscriptions that retaining subs from making new episodes isn't necessary or even a good deal.

kage_53 posted...

Doesnt Netflix cancel everything after 1-2 seasons ?

No, but quite a few

Most of the stuff of theirs that I watch has been going for many seasons

Prestoff posted...

This, if your show is expensive and it's a Netflix Exclusive...you have to be "very very successful" or you're going to get canned. There's a reason Netflix went on a cancellation spree when Stranger Things season 1 was an absolute hit.

That's why I will I am expecting LA One Piece to end at Alabaster. Because even if it gets more than three seasons it sure won't make it to the end of even to the halfway point.

creativerealms posted...

That's why I will I am expecting LA One Piece to end at Alabaster. Because even if it gets more than three seasons it sure won't make it to the end of even to the halfway point.

live action one piece problem is not about success its about its ungodly length

even if they start cutting down on arcs and removing stuff

they could skip skypia (even if it does hint at future things)

and do water 7 and they could even introduce brook this arc thus skipping his arc

but that would still be alot to cover would likely take 3 seasons

then i can see ways they could heavily alter impel down

but once you get to the time skip arcs it just becomes to big

AceMos posted...

live action one piece problem is not about success its about its ungodly length

even if they start cutting down on arcs and removing stuff

they could skip skypia (even if it does hint at future things)

and do water 7 and they could even introduce brook this arc thus skipping his arc

but that would still be alot to cover would likely take 3 seasons

then i can see ways they could heavily alter impel down

but once you get to the time skip arcs it just becomes to big

That's my point it was a HUGE success but it's also an extremely long show. And with Alabaster taking two seasons It's best to treat each storyline like the last. I would love for it to make it to Enies Lobby (even if it skips Skypia to do so) but I even doubt that. Just as long as it stays good and ends at good spot I am fine.

creativerealms posted...

That's my point it was a HUGE success but it's also an extremely long show. And with Alabaster taking two seasons It's best to treat each storyline like the last. I would love for it to make it to Enies Lobby (even if it skips Skypia to do so) but I even doubt that. Just as long as it stays good and ends at good spot I am fine.

indeed enies loby is by far the best arc

but yea i doubt we will reach that

s0nicfan posted...

If they're ending Season 2 where I think they are, you'll get something of an ending but keep in mind you're following a list of characters who are the literal personification of abstract concepts that have existed so long that they're above gods because, in Gaiman's own words, gods die when people stop believing in them. Which is to say don't expect anything like "closure."

I have a casual knowledge of the comics, and I never really expect an adaptation to follow things closely. But I enjoyed season 1, and I'd like to see some sort of ending written. It doesn't even have to be closure, per se - just a finishing point.

Kaldrenthebold posted...

Doesn't sound like it is cancelled, sounds like it has run its course.

Like others have said, I don't buy that in the slightest. The first season and the specials covered the first 18 issues of the comics, give or take. The original run was 75 issues, and there have been multiple spinoffs since then. Not all of those issues had Dream as a focal point, but there's plenty of material that could've been covered.

This is 100% due to what we learned about Neil Gaiman.

bsp77 posted...

So given the situation, where s2 is completed and there is no chance for future seasons, would watching this be supporting Gaiman in any way?

It's rough. On one hand, what Gaiman's been accused of is absolutely monstrous, and I don't want to support that. On the other hand, Sandman is my all-time favorite comic, and I REALLY enjoyed the adaptation. I typically separate the art from the artist, but I'm not gonna lie; the sheer extent of what's been alleged is making it difficult for me in this case.

MTRodaba2468 posted...

It's rough. On one hand, what Gaiman's been accused of is absolutely monstrous, and I don't want to support that. On the other hand, Sandman is my all-time favorite comic, and I REALLY enjoyed the adaptation. I typically separate the art from the artist, but I'm not gonna lie; the sheer extent of what's been alleged is making it difficult for me in this case.

not to mention it taints how you view lots of things IN sandman

AceMos posted...

not to mention it taints how you view lots of things IN sandman

Honestly, Madoc isn't much the norm there, unlike Junot Diaz's work which now reads as a signed confession

LightSnake posted...

Madoc isn't much the norm there

look ad desire

or just the way morpheous treats his lovers

LightSnake posted...

unlike Junot Diaz's work which now reads as a signed confession

not familiar with that one

AceMos posted...

look ad desire

or just the way morpheous treats his lovers

not familiar with that one

I'm not saying it hasn't aged bad, but this stuff very much is portrayed as wrong in the work.

A lot of times, someone's works do not lend themselves to being able to 'tell' predatory behavior. There are exceptions, but the sinister part of Gaiman is he wrote with very much empathy and warmth to mask the monster he was

AceMos posted...

or just the way morpheous treats his lovers

That is what also makes it so rough. Morpheus is not treated like the good guy in these situations. He thinks he is in the right before eventually conceding that he was the problem. However, even if Gaiman comes out takes full responsibility for his actions, I don't know that I would actually believe that he believes it.

Lol that's hilarious. I've had this on my to watch list for years now, I wanted to see what all the fuss is about with this Sandman series everyone on the internet goes on about. Didn't like what I skimmed so far but maybe a proper sitdown will make me like the show more.

I loved the first season but the show will always have a weird personal connection for me since my ex tried to commit suicide by sliting his wrists after seeing it. He said that the show pushed him over the edge he was on.