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NeonPhoenix 01/19/25 11:37:49 AM #1: |
Imagine telling everyone "Hey, you know all those stories and emotional moments in LITERALLY the entire series? Yeah, none of them really happened. It was just a fake TV show, bro. lawl" It takes BALLS to just dump your whole story in the trash like that >_> Is DR4 even gonna be a thing? Seems like they just burned everything around the series with that ending lol. Great game otherwise. Miu Iruma unironically the best character in the entire series for me, but it's against Fandom's TOS to explain why. --- https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 01/19/25 11:42:35 AM #2: |
Probably the craziest plot twist I ever saw I love crazy shit like that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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012yArthur0 01/19/25 11:44:14 AM #3: |
It felt more like spiteful but I kinda get it. I can't help it but think it was just a jab about the fandom that was completely obsessive over that franchise. --- Some things are beautiful because they cannot be obtained. ~~ Gilgamesh ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DodogamaRayBrst 01/19/25 11:45:21 AM #4: |
Possibly the best video game ending ever made. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Popo 01/19/25 11:45:27 AM #5: |
Same But I really wish they hadnt done it --- Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HighSeraph 01/19/25 11:47:41 AM #7: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Yeah I don't even watch Grumps episodes from the weekends because they only play Danganronpa and the horrible writing and terrible anime VAs are that awful --- She/Her Crimsoness' Alt Dynamite with a laser beam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DodogamaRayBrst 01/19/25 11:48:53 AM #8: |
It's possibly the only good piece of plot writing in Danganronpa. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JKwaffle 01/19/25 11:51:40 AM #10: |
I loved the ending tbh. It felt very fitting for a series that always said "fuck your expectations, we'll do what we want". And honestly, the whole series is based on lies anyways. If they wanted to they could easily retcon it. --- - The user formerly known as WafflehouseJK ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KajeI 01/19/25 11:54:52 AM #11: |
It's the best endgame in the entire series by a country mile. I think everything about Junko is some of the dumbest shit I've seen in media period, so V3's ending was a breath of fresh air. I get why lots of people don't like it, but it's infinitely better than the absolute bottom of the barrel slop that always follows Junko showing up. V3 is the only thing in the series where I actually like it all the way through. --- Look, I can name a few instances in MY life where I tried to reach mutual understanding and i can TELL you, always faster and easier to just kill em. Just is! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BakonBitz 01/19/25 12:00:21 PM #13: |
I think the even better part about it is that there's some things about the revelation that don't quite add up and makes the player wonder if what they learned was actually the full truth or not, which fits the entire game's premise. It could be poor writing but it feels intentional and could easily be utilized as a retcon if they ever decide to make another one. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DodogamaRayBrst 01/19/25 12:02:43 PM #14: |
What exactly is so bad about the ending in terms of writing? Also case 2-3 is fine, I'm tired of pretending otherwise. Not even worst case in that game. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Powdered_Toast 01/19/25 12:06:24 PM #15: |
I thought it was great, maybe partially because I figured out really early on that it was going to happen. 012yArthur0 posted... It felt more like spiteful but I kinda get it.For the fans that feel like it was targeting them specifically, I think it kinda was and they kinda deserved it. Another series I liked a bit went in the complete opposite direction and embraced those types of fans and I hated it. --- Want some rye? 'Course ya do! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GhostFaceLeaks 01/19/25 12:07:13 PM #16: |
Didn't the writer make that ending just so there'd be no possible way to make a new game without a full-on reboot? --- "Do you like Scary movies?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SydnieStarlight 01/19/25 12:07:24 PM #17: |
I guess I only really see it as saying "the whole rest of the series was fake" if you think of V3 itself as being "the real one". Which, I mean, y'know. It's all fiction. None of it is real. So it's kind of weird to think of any specific part as being "less not real", y'know? I wasn't a huge fan of the ending on the first go-around, but when I replayed it a few years later, I found myself appreciating it a lot more. Partly because V3 dealt so much more with the concept of truth and lies, so it's harder to be certain what within it is true and what is false. And I think that's kind of what they were going for, leaving it up to your imagination or personal interpretation what the truth of it all was in the end. Personally, I look to the "pre-prologue" for the answer, that section at the very beginning where you have to run from the Monokubs in the robots. The way the characters act there, they obviously aren't the ultimates we spend the game with, but they also don't seem to be people who signed up for the show knowing what they were getting into. And it doesn't really seem like their memories have been erased, either. So my takeaway is that most likely nothing we think we know about the V3 world is true. EDIT: DodogamaRayBrst posted... Also case 2-3 is fine, I'm tired of pretending otherwise. Not even worst case in that game.I second this! I've never understood the hate for it. It's where the story starts to really hint that --- Star Rail (601319792) | FGO (960,463,298) Let's be friends~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BakonBitz 01/19/25 12:08:03 PM #18: |
DodogamaRayBrst posted... Also case 2-3 is fine, I'm tired of pretending otherwise. Not even worst case in that game.In retrospect following the game's revelations, that case makes sense, tbh. Though in the moment it definitely makes you think "wow this is an extremely convenient motive." --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DodogamaRayBrst 01/19/25 12:10:13 PM #19: |
Both best girls did not make it to the end of V3 BakonBitz posted... In retrospect following the game's revelations, that case makes sense, tbh. Though in the moment it definitely makes you think "wow this is an extremely convenient motive." It's extremely convenient, I'm not saying it's not. I just don't think an element of a case's staging being eyeroll inducing make the whole thing bad and there was several likeable parts about that case to me. Especially ... Copied to Clipboard!
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012yArthur0 01/19/25 12:12:13 PM #20: |
DodogamaRayBrst posted... What exactly is so bad about the ending in terms of writing?Because it just takes it as a giant "fuck you" to the viewers. All this despair and hope shit was just a fabrication, all these people that got murdered in some twisted/hilarious way was deliberately their own choice, all their personalities were never real and any sense of pity or anger at them amounted to nothing. And then it points it out that people still obsess it over because they don't want these characters to suffer and yet keeps demanding more and more Danganronpa to see characters getting fucked up. I can't help but believe the studio was getting sick of making Danganronpa (since there is no hints they will ever come back to this franchise) and telling the fanbase to shut up. If I remember correctly, the victory they had to pull was to essentially make people stop watching Danganronpa to prove a point lol. You can't ask for happy endings and somehow asking for more Danganronpas. They threw in the end the "...maybe it is maybe it is not" thing but you get the gist. I don't really hate nor dislike the ending but I can see the more passionate fans hating this. It felt like a meta criticism over its own fanbase. --- Some things are beautiful because they cannot be obtained. ~~ Gilgamesh ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonPhoenix 01/19/25 12:18:12 PM #22: |
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You dont have to use spoiler tags for V3, bro. The topic title has *Spoilers* in it. Only 1 and 2 need spoiler tags Miu dies! Himiko lives! yolo --- https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DodogamaRayBrst 01/19/25 12:18:19 PM #23: |
012yArthur0 posted... Because it just takes it as a giant "fuck you" to the viewers.I just don't agree with this at all, and it's obvious that, while there are jabs in there, it's also not the perception of Kodaka and his team. 012yArthur0 posted... And then it points it out that people still obsess it over because they don't want these characters to suffer and yet keeps demanding more and more Danganronpa to see characters getting fucked up.I think that's an extremely interesting perspective to put to the viewer and ask them why they are playing this children murder simulator game. It doesn't mean that the fact they do is inherently (or even remotely) bad. But I think it's a really great thing to make the player ponder the question. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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012yArthur0 01/19/25 12:19:46 PM #24: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] There is something weird about the x-3 murders having very flimsy whydunnits. One just wanted money, the other was "love", and the v3 was whatever the fuck that was. Having 2 victims every single one of them just makes me believe they were just excuses to clean up the roster since all of them were fated to die in one way or the other. --- Some things are beautiful because they cannot be obtained. ~~ Gilgamesh ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DodogamaRayBrst 01/19/25 12:21:18 PM #25: |
It's definitely a sloppy case, but I don't think not going into merticulous detail with everything is bad. I guess maybe someone should have brought up the murder weapon at some point, buuuuut it wasn't really relevant at the end so it's not really an issue that they didn't. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OrangeCrush980 01/19/25 12:21:58 PM #26: |
From my understanding, Danganronpa 1 and 2 are still video games in Danganronpa V3. So it doesn't actually change anything really; the characters still went through the same experiences, it's just that they're "2 levels of fictional" instead of 1 level. Or still just 1 level if you just ignore V3. --- "Foolishness, Dante. Foolishness... Might controls everything. And without strength, you cannot protect anything. Let alone yourself." - Vergil, DMC3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BakonBitz 01/19/25 12:23:12 PM #27: |
DodogamaRayBrst posted... I think that's an extremely interesting perspective to put to the viewer and ask them why they are playing this children murder simulator game. It doesn't mean that the fact they do is inherently (or even remotely) bad. But I think it's a really great thing to make the player ponder the question.Yeah, the new game Kodaka's involved with that looks an awful lot like Danganronpa (forgot the name but it involves high school students with a mascot character, only the gameplay loop seems to be almost RTS-like) means he's still open to the idea. It's just posing the question of "why do we like to see fictional characters murdered in the most brutal ways imaginable?" --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DodogamaRayBrst 01/19/25 12:28:53 PM #29: |
Celeste's motivation in 1-3 was perfectly reasonable to her character, even if it's not something that will take paragraphs to explain. My main issue with 1-3 is that for how overly complex her plan it it's possibly the easiest murder to figure out in the entire franchise and quite frankly it's very boring to go through, even on a first playthrough, nevermind replays. It might even be easier than seeing 11037. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cynrascal 01/19/25 12:33:15 PM #30: |
DodogamaRayBrst posted... What exactly is so bad about the ending in terms of writing? --- Asocial, not introverted. Know the difference. Maybe those JRPGs villains were on to something about humanity being trash. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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012yArthur0 01/19/25 12:35:41 PM #31: |
DodogamaRayBrst posted... I just don't agree with this at all, and it's obvious that, while there are jabs in there, it's also not the perception of Kodaka and his team.Yeah. The characters point out that their pain was real, the friends that they lost and the moments they had were real, even if it was dictated by a script. But I can't blame the fans for not agreeing after taking the realization that every single thing in the franchise was scripted. Which is why I don't really dislike V3 ending at all except the part that it felt like their sealed door shut for any future continuations. If there's any more DRs, then "DR" itself won because in the end we still want more DR and all that fight amounted to nothing, or it wasn't "that fake" then which also meant all that "rage against the heavens" struggle also didn't mean much because then it wasn't fake and they just took the bait. I think that's an extremely interesting perspective to put to the viewer and ask them why they are playing this children murder simulator game. It doesn't mean that the fact they do is inherently (or even remotely) bad. But I think it's a really great thing to make the player ponder the question.I don't think anyone is evil or bad for treating fiction as fiction. One of the most common denominator in fiction is violence and death. However, it made me raise a question: by all accounts all characters in V3 are essentially amnesiac people with new personas, so should they feel obliged or guilty over the past of their own selves? It was shown that Kaito and Shuichi before becoming the characters looked completely unhinged, and yet these new personas are just different people getting fucked over by their past they didn't even know they took part of. --- Some things are beautiful because they cannot be obtained. ~~ Gilgamesh ... Copied to Clipboard!
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012yArthur0 01/19/25 12:40:55 PM #32: |
DodogamaRayBrst posted... Celeste's motivation in 1-3 was perfectly reasonable to her character, even if it's not something that will take paragraphs to explain. My main issue with 1-3 is that for how overly complex her plan it it's possibly the easiest murder to figure out in the entire franchise and quite frankly it's very boring to go through, even on a first playthrough, nevermind replays. It might even be easier than seeing 11037.It was reasonable, just not a very interesting one. Considering who she is, it was probably deliberate that she tried to make it as complex as possible just to still be extremely easy in retrospect. --- Some things are beautiful because they cannot be obtained. ~~ Gilgamesh ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Powdered_Toast 01/19/25 12:43:50 PM #33: |
Oh, if there's any part of the series I think is awful, it's the Danganronpa 3 anime. That was stupid. --- Want some rye? 'Course ya do! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BakonBitz 01/19/25 1:03:59 PM #35: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Yeah, the anime basically completely ignored DR Zero which I thought was a better "prequel" story. They really should've gave themselves more room than one season for the Future Arc and one season for the Despair Arc. The anime had some cool ideas (like showing Makoto having survivor's guilt) but was ultimately kinda wasted. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SydnieStarlight 01/19/25 1:14:44 PM #36: |
NeonPhoenix posted... You dont have to use spoiler tags for V3, bro. The topic title has *Spoilers* in it. Only 1 and 2 need spoiler tagsOh, I sometimes use spoiler tags for less serious and/or unrelated comments. It's a style choice~ --- Star Rail (601319792) | FGO (960,463,298) Let's be friends~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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