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I'm on July 30 right now. getting ready for the soiree.

tbh Catherina has my vote

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Cowards couldn't give Catherina some definition to her midriff. They'll give her straps under her shorts, but not a wisp of abs.

wanderingshade posted...

Cowards couldn't give Catherina some definition to her midriff. They'll give her straps under her shorts, but not a wisp of abs.

stop hornyposting or you will be fishy fandangoed

I really need to continue this game. Im still on the first dungeon.

hope main man GRIUS throws his name in the ol hat

I will play it eventually. I'm playing the Persona 3 remake right now.

wanderingshade posted...

Cowards couldn't give Catherina some definition to her midriff. They'll give her straps under her shorts, but not a wisp of abs.

They are cowards in general. This is a fuckin world with like 20 different bizarre fantasy species and the MC is the most average Japanese high school boy looking mother fucker I've ever seen. This includes games where the protagonist is a literal Japanese high school boy.

Tyranthraxus posted...

They are cowards in general. This is a fuckin world with like 20 different bizarre fantasy species and the MC is the most average Japanese high school boy looking mother fucker I've ever seen. This includes games where the protagonist is a literal Japanese high school boy.

And he wants to be king! That was the hardest part for me to swallow.

That said, this was a fantastic game. Finished it over the break. Unlike Persona games, it had me hooked all the way through.

Louis was a good villain and the supporting cast had great stories to tell as well.

Tyranthraxus posted...

They are cowards in general. This is a fuckin world with like 20 different bizarre fantasy species and the MC is the most average Japanese high school boy looking mother fucker I've ever seen. This includes games where the protagonist is a literal Japanese high school boy.

i thought he was a girl tbh :/

I really wish they made a cheap abundantly available means of restoring MP that you could use at Magla hollows. Instead I have to do this.

>Stun enemy & start squad battle
>Steal rare item because why not
>Plunder magic 6 times
>Use last action crystal to escape while the enemy is still stunned
>Repeat until everyone has full mp again

Just use the mage archetype in front of the enemy generator crystals

Rika_Furude posted...

Just use the mage archetype in front of the enemy generator crystals

I can do that too but where I am the monsters aren't weak enough to defeat on map attacks.

Rika_Furude posted...

Just use the mage archetype in front of the enemy generator crystals

Hard to tell what takes longer tbh.

I just finished the 4th (?) dungeon, which was the longest and most annoying one so far. There was like a 2 hour gap between hallows and I was starving for MP and didn't have a lot of items to refill them. I was annoyed that I had to burn an extra day just for the boss fights by itself.

Other than that slight annoyance though I'm having a blast with it. I do feel like my Archetypes aren't as leveled as they probably should be because I did a lot of switching around in the early game instead of locking in on certain ones

BlackScythe0 posted...

Hard to tell what takes longer tbh.

If you kill the moths you also get the MP items, you also get more EXP from killing tons of field enemies as opposed to slogging through battles slowly
I think, I never tried stealing MP

Rika_Furude posted...

If you kill the moths you also get the MP items, you also get more EXP from killing tons of field enemies as opposed to slogging through battles slowly
I think, I never tried stealing MP

Steal mana is like 5-7 mana at a time where I'm at in the game. There is another higher level version of it I haven't unlocked yet. I got the game on the christmas sale so I'm probably like half way through?

BlackScythe0 posted...

Steal mana is like 5-7 mana at a time where I'm at in the game. There is another higher level version of it I haven't unlocked yet. I got the game on the christmas sale so I'm probably like half way through?

The higher level the enemy the more MP you get. The guys I'm fighting now are letting me steal 11-12 mp at a time.

Now I am become grind, destroyer of Golden Homo Tenta

You gain access to cook a powerful MP restorative after a certain party member

A LOT of people ive seen discuss the game entirely overlooked this

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

You gain access to cook a powerful MP restorative after a certain party member

A LOT of people ive seen discuss the game entirely overlooked this

Are you talking about magic bread? I only have one of those right now. One of the ingredients was hard to get.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Are you talking about magic bread? I only have one of those right now. One of the ingredients was hard to get.

nope.

Cursed love ballad.

Spoiler is just the name of the dish.

Ah I have one of those too. I should maybe stock up on it the next time I get a chance to cook.

I thought I met a four, but she similed at me and was like only a three.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

nope.

Cursed love ballad.

Spoiler is just the name of the dish.

What make this OP is that all of the ingredients are easy to buy in shops and that cooking can be done in bulk. Happiness is having more party-wide MP restores than you can possibly use.

EPR-radar posted...

What make this OP is that all of the ingredients are easy to buy in shops and that cooking can be done in bulk. Happiness is having more party-wide MP restores than you can possibly use.

yep its seriously a game changer. I was wondering why people seemed to be struggling at some later points in the game and almost always they just completely didnt look at the cooking options

Well I've got like 500k from destroying gold teeth so I should be able to stock up quite nicely.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

yep its seriously a game changer. I was wondering why people seemed to be struggling at some later points in the game and almost always they just completely didnt look at the cooking options

I was focused on making 1 of every dish first before doing repeats. I would have noticed eventually.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Ah I have one of those too. I should maybe stock up on it the next time I get a chance to cook.

yeah the game doesnt tell you, but if you dont already know you can cook up to 50 of something in one session.

The ingredients for this dish are all able to be bought as well

For easy money just use Merchant and go to a low level dungeon, find a magla crystal and kill all the spawned enemies for like 1500 gold per kill.

Struggling with MP?

Just put this Wizard passive skill on:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9fd1e113.jpg

Combine it with anything that gives you a stat buff at the beginning of a battle (like one of the Knight passives) and then just pass turns on a weak enemy, escape the battle before it's the enemy's turn, rinse, repeat

I do like that the game gives you so many options to make yourself a beast, and doesnt really make any big mention of them.

If youre not paying attention its pretty easy to overlook some incredibly helpful items and abilities

Super_Slash posted...

For easy money just use Merchant and go to a low level dungeon, find a magla crystal and kill all the spawned enemies for like 1500 gold per kill.

The golden teeth was a little more than money it was also giving me 500 AEXP per battle that took almost no effort. Faker + General solo.

Even after it turned blue I was still getting 300 AEXP.

I just wanted to grind general to 15 to finish the seeker research quest mostly. This was a fun way to make asstons of money in the process.

Northlane posted...

Struggling with MP?

Just put this Wizard passive skill on:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9fd1e113.jpg

Combine it with anything that gives you a stat buff at the beginning of a battle (like one of the Knight passives) and then just pass turns on a weak enemy, escape the battle before it's the enemy's turn, rinse, repeat

I'm at a point of the game where getting wizard to that level itself requires some significant grinding. Only 2 characters even have access to wizard rn.

The best part about killing the crystal spawns is that I can browse CE at the same time

Yeah I will admit I forgot about the stuff I had cooked when I was going thru that dungeon. I thought about it immediately after I finished it. But I don't think I had that dish unlocked anyway. But I'll make a note to cook those up for the next one.

Darkninja42 posted...

Yeah I will admit I forgot about the stuff I had cooked when I was going thru that dungeon. I thought about it immediately after I finished it. But I don't think I had that dish unlocked anyway. But I'll make a note to cook those up for the next one.

it unlocks after you get Junah

Looks like you need Dreameater Moths to make that and you can't buy those until end game.

Oh well I'll just go back to spamming plunder magic.

Darkninja42 posted...

I just finished the 4th (?) dungeon, which was the longest and most annoying one so far. There was like a 2 hour gap between hallows and I was starving for MP and didn't have a lot of items to refill them. I was annoyed that I had to burn an extra day just for the boss fights by itself.

Other than that slight annoyance though I'm having a blast with it. I do feel like my Archetypes aren't as leveled as they probably should be because I did a lot of switching around in the early game instead of locking in on certain ones

When a character masters an archetype, stick with it for generic battles. They gain "levels" and each level is always 1000 AEXP at that point and each level you get a hero's leaf of light which is like 1000 aexp which helps greatly in archetype leveling.

You would thinking changing archetypes would level them up faster but it doesn't. Staying with mastered classes and spending leaves is faster.

You're doing this to yourself. You don't have to beat everything in a single day. In fact, you're really not supposed to.

Speaking of Catherina, nobody seems to mention that she's wearing a metal thong. Which is a weird choice.

DodogamaRayBrst posted...

You're doing this to yourself. You don't have to beat everything in a single day. In fact, you're really not supposed to.

Speaking of Catherina, nobody seems to mention that she's wearing a metal thong. Which is weird.

If I don't beat it in a single day I feel like I wasted the day tho.

i beat every dungeon in a single day on hard
but i was always able to progress far enough through a dungeon in one day to where earlier enemies would become blue and fuel for my MP regen via mage
i had the same feeling as TC where if I took 2 days, thats just 1 wasted day

however by the end of the game I had quite a few wasted days so all my effort was for nothing

i think the most important thing is every 5th day make sure you take a shit on your gauntlet runner. if the day ends in 5 or 0, you get a permanent +1 luck

Tyranthraxus posted...

I'm at a point of the game where getting wizard to that level itself requires some significant grinding. Only 2 characters even have access to wizard rn.

Don't ignore the wizard line. Having access to the stronger elemental magic is super handy.

DodogamaRayBrst posted...

You're doing this to yourself. You don't have to beat everything in a single day. In fact, you're really not supposed to.

Speaking of Catherina, nobody seems to mention that she's wearing a metal thong. Which is a weird choice.

Sure it's not mandatory to 1 day every dungeon, but it does give you a bit more wiggle room to make mistakes elsewhere

*shrug*

I hate grinding so much that I had a much more enjoyable time accepting that dungeons would take several days to complete. I don't think I grinded mage mp, merchant money or thief items a single time and I had a blast going through the game. At the end there was only a single quest I didn't have time to complete and that was honestly because I gave it bottom priority and didn't optimize my routes when side dungeon exploring.

Yeah I've been playing on Hard as well. The game is still generally easy as difficult enemies can be worn down with stun and the unlimited resets means you can keep trying to get a perfect opening turn like if you're trying to get a paralyze or burn status on your first attack if you don't get it you can just reset.

After taking out a few big guys, everything else in the dungeon turns blue because the yellow/red enemies give lots of xp.

I really need to get back into this game... Got it day one and didn't get super far... I don't remember if something else distracted me or if the game wasn't hooking me at that point...

Pitbuller_26 posted...

When a character masters an archetype, stick with it for generic battles. They gain "levels" and each level is always 1000 AEXP at that point and each level you get a hero's leaf of light which is like 1000 aexp which helps greatly in archetype leveling.

You would thinking changing archetypes would level them up faster but it doesn't. Staying with mastered classes and spending leaves is faster.

Good to know. I had been switching around once I mastered it unless I really needed a specific one for a battle.

Darkninja42 posted...

Good to know. I had been switching around once I mastered it unless I really needed a specific one for a battle.

Switching around isn't necessarily a bad thing. Lots of archetypes get their best shit by rank 3 and the later archetypes usually have much better synthesis skills.

Darkninja42 posted...

Good to know. I had been switching around once I mastered it unless I really needed a specific one for a battle.

So, I want to clarify here. Keeping them in mastered archetypes isn't technically faster. It's a 1 to 1 conversion. On a mastered archetype, every 1000 a-exp gives you 1 Hero's Leaf of Light, which gives you 1000 a-exp. But what that allows you to do is keep your current party setup and potentially funnel all of the a-exp into 1 character. I used that to max 100% of the archetypes on the MC, while everyone else still only had 20-30% mastered. Up to you how you spread it around.

Also, something that will help with leveling archetypes is equipping everyone with an Archetypal Ring. It increases the a-exp earned by 50% and you can buy as many as you want from the Nidia Shopkeeper in the 3rd city (Brilehaven). But he only sells them on Watersday and you have to buy them one at a time for 40,000 each (you have to talk to him again after buying one). Also be aware that the a-exp earned on the battle screen will increase when it's equipped on the MC, but that's not the a-exp gain for the entire party. Everyone needs to have one equipped to benefit.

My issue with keeping people in mastered classes is that in a job system game, playing new classes is FUN!

DodogamaRayBrst posted...

My issue with keeping people in mastered classes is that in a job system game, playing new classes is FUN!

You seem to take issue with any post I make about grinding lol. For the record, I did switch classes around for most of the game. It wasn't until the last leg of the game where I stopped doing that. I didn't max out the MC until the final dungeon. I also don't mind grinding, since I spent over a decade playing mmo's. So a little grinding in a single player game is still fun to me

I have like 6 items to purify and only 1 heavenly water to purify with. It's giving me anxiety and the end result is nothing gets purified.