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Cotton_Eye_Joe
12/31/24 6:56:07 PM
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It looks pretty good.

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PowerOats
12/31/24 7:03:02 PM
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It's average in nearly all aspects except graphics and soundtrack

I saw it on sale for 20-30 bucks, which is a acceptable price for the game, don't pay over 40 for it
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solosnake
12/31/24 7:50:13 PM
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best single player Final Fantasy since 10

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pegusus123456
12/31/24 7:51:48 PM
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Cotton_Eye_Joe posted...
Starfield is a 7/10. Get over it.
If you're this aggressive about a different 7/10 game, the 7/10 FF16 might not be for you.

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ssb_yunglink2
12/31/24 7:54:18 PM
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Yeah its a good game. I think its highs outweigh its lows and overall its a solid 8/10 game


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ssb_yunglink2
12/31/24 8:00:13 PM
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You have a comical level of hatred for this game

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Hayame_Zero
12/31/24 8:03:23 PM
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solosnake posted...
best single player Final Fantasy since 10

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Phanir
12/31/24 8:05:49 PM
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Great game with some pacing issues that hurts the enjoyment at times. Combat is also really simple despite having so many abilities/options.

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Darkninja42
12/31/24 8:22:11 PM
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It's good, but I was disappointed in it, mainly in the combat system. Limiting abilities to slots and putting them on cooldowns were huge mistakes

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reincarnator07
01/01/25 1:57:19 PM
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Yeah I'd say so. Clive and Cid are fantastic characters, the combat system is solid, the main scenario is good and the production values are insane. The sidequests are mostly shit and I wish that Soken went harder with the music, but I feel it's the first single player FF I can recommend to people without caveats in literal decades at this point.

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_____Cait
01/04/25 8:36:55 AM
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Its a decent game pinned down by bad sidequests with bad rewards, bad mandatory filler (finding things for Mid) and combat that you feel should be deeper, but never changes

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Irony
01/04/25 8:37:58 AM
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It has amazing combat that suffers from having shitty enemies. It's like playing Devil May Cry 5 but all the enemies are basically just Dragon's Dogma goblins.

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Baron_Ox
01/04/25 8:39:23 AM
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yea overall, it was pretty flawed, but I thought it was good.

I'm glad I played it, but I'll never play it again, and I'll skip the DLCs.

and yea, 7/10 seems about right.

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HeWhoHasNoShadow
01/04/25 9:55:31 AM
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It has some great moments, but a few aspects can be average/underwhelming. So yeah, I'd say it averages out to a "good game".

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HighSeraph
01/04/25 9:57:31 AM
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For me to poop on!

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AceMos
01/04/25 9:58:27 AM
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it stripped out the identity of final fantasy to chase after game of thrones fans

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Kaldrenthebold
01/04/25 10:12:48 AM
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Yeah I loved it. Definitely has some bad points but the highs are spectacular. Ending made me tear up a bunch. Really enjoyed the story and characters and the combat is fun albeit not really in depth. No real RPG mechanics whatsoever either. Side quests ranged from good enough (mostly at the end of the game when they wrapped up 60+ hours of side plots) to arduous nothing. Exploration is useless as well due to no need for materials or things to find.

But damn did I love the spectacle. And the music is superb

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Baron_Ox
01/04/25 10:13:27 AM
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AceMos posted...
it stripped out the identity of final fantasy to chase after game of thrones fans

story, setting, theme, characters, etc., FFXVI doesn't feel out of place with the rest of the series (that's not to say anything about its overall quality), since it has the franchise's mainstays (Cid, chocobos, moogles, and so on), and each mainline title does its own thing.

when people criticize it for "stripping its identity", they're talking about its gameplay, which has nothing to do with the GoT inspiration. they could have easily made a turn-based/ATB system like previous games, and did everything else the same.

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SilentSeph
01/04/25 10:13:36 AM
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It's got great presentation, soundtrack, voice acting, and characters. The story starts promising but gets weaker near the end. Exploration is nearly nonexistent and whatever loot you do find will likely be 3 gil or some other trash. Most sidequests are repetitive and not that great but some of the ones towards the end have good resolutions. RPG mechanics are nearly nonexistent and so are elemental strengths and weaknesses. Combat is fun and you can do some nutty things with Cold Snap and Rift Slip but it's certainly not needed as the first playthrough is rather easy outside of tackling certain S Rank hunts at the earliest moment (the game being easy isn't too big of a detriment to me personally). Harder difficulties are locked behind the first and second playthroughs, and I hear the dlc is difficult although I haven't played it. Also having 30 abilities but only being allowed to use 6 at a time feels pretty limiting - I think being able to switch between two skill sets on the fly would've helped as many of the abilities are pretty much DOA when you get them. Despite my gripes I enjoyed it overall and would give it a 7/10 (maybe even 7.5 because you get to pet Torgal)

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Irony
01/04/25 10:15:37 AM
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AceMos posted...
it stripped out the identity of final fantasy to chase after game of thrones fans
This has been said about every Final Fantasy since 7 and it's also wrong

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AceMos
01/04/25 10:16:49 AM
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Irony posted...
This has been said about every Final Fantasy since 7 and it's also wrong

people said final fantasy 8 was chasing game of thrones?


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dummy420
01/04/25 10:26:24 AM
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solosnake posted...
best single player Final Fantasy since 10


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Fable
01/04/25 10:27:56 AM
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Its fine. I enjoyed it for a month or two when it came out. It's a hell of a lot better than XIII and XV. I'd put it ahead of II, III, and VIII as well.

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Baron_Ox
01/04/25 10:30:48 AM
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AceMos posted...
people said final fantasy 8 was chasing game of thrones?
the it being "stripped" of its identity part is wrong

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Baron_Ox
01/04/25 10:36:39 AM
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I wasn't referring to its mechanics.

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AceMos
01/04/25 10:51:53 AM
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where is the fun goofy stuff final fantasy use to have ive not seen anything like that from 16 just grim serious generic fantasy stuff

as said its not even a rpg anymore

hell sidequests even fans agree those suck in this when final fantasy use to be good at side content

change the chocobos to horses and change a few names and no one would have ever compared 16 to final fantasy

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Baron_Ox
01/04/25 11:06:37 AM
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  • anyway, who says Final Fantasy should be characterized by its goofy moments? yea, 16 is a darker title, but it has its moments of levity. some of the other FFs are darker than other titles in the series, too; should we have some cut off before a game isn't considered a FF anymore?
  • it has RPG elements. you level up your abilities and open up new ones, you have stats, and gear that can add to them. for all intents and purposes, it's no less of an RPG than scrolling through a menu; it just has more involved gameplay
  • do all FFs have good side-content, or are we just comparing what this has with the best that the series overall had to offer?
  • as opposed to other games in the series? if you removed elements associated with FF from the other games, it would be the same thing

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Baron_Ox
01/04/25 11:12:48 AM
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Kaldrenthebold
01/04/25 11:51:03 AM
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Don't bother with Brykner, FF16 murdered their family or something

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Baron_Ox
01/04/25 11:57:25 AM
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I'm not going to argue that 16 is a good game, or why people should give it more of a chance, because I could EASILY see why they might not like it.

I just think its wrong when people say it's not a FF, how it doesn't feel like one, and stuff like that.

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AceMos
01/04/25 12:28:01 PM
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Baron_Ox posted...
I'm not going to argue that 16 is a good game, or why people should give it more of a chance, because I could EASILY see why they might not like it.

I just think its wrong when people say it's not a FF, how it doesn't feel like one, and stuff like that.

it changed genres alone is a good enough reason

if it did not have the number 16 in the title that would be different but its a main line FF where the rpg elements are super downplayed

hell they also removed having a proper party do to this genre change


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ItsNotA2Mer
01/04/25 12:33:38 PM
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Pacing issues aside, I definitely enjoyed my time with it.

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Baron_Ox
01/04/25 12:40:49 PM
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AceMos posted...
it changed genres alone is a good enough reason

if it did not have the number 16 in the title that would be different but its a main line FF where the rpg elements are super downplayed

hell they also removed having a proper party do to this genre change
it's an action-RPG. other games in the series have changed their mechanics over previous titles, like FF13, FF15, & FF7r; there's no set standard in the series.

and how is the RPG element "downplayed", because it now has character action elements? how is a game more of an RPG just because you scroll a menu to issue commands?

also, an RPG doesn't require a party.

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_____Cait
01/04/25 10:37:09 PM
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I feel like it wasnt even a good action rpg though. Outside of bosses, every fight can be won the same exact way. Combos are weak and you can only chain a small amount of attacks. You would think you could juggle enemies, but the game doesnt work like that. Rewards for doing well in combat dont exist. Enemy AI is dumb as a rock.

It isnt even close to mid stuff in the genre like White Knight Chronicles. Its lucky that it looks amazing and has some really high highs. But the battle system isnt worth the change in genre. They were too afraid to make it complex, so they gave us a dumbed down version of DMC.

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Baron_Ox
01/04/25 11:05:08 PM
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I wasn't claiming that it handled its RPG elements well; I was just saying it was still an RPG.

as far as FF action-RPG mechanics go, I prefer 7r & 7R.

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Scarecrow17
01/04/25 11:05:28 PM
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It's a solid 8/10 with solid gameplay, fantastic music, great voice acting, and some neat characters. The game is held back by a few poorly done side quests. The side quests become better as the game goes on if you care about the side characters. You can win many of the encounters with the same combo strings which makes the gameplay becomes tedious towards the end of the game. Also, the main villain is very weak in my opinion.

I think Final Fantasy XVI is worth playing.

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chris1001_the_sequel
01/04/25 11:21:39 PM
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It absolutely has it's issue, but there's way more good than bad, and is a breath of fresh air after the dumpster fire that was XV

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pegusus123456
01/04/25 11:31:13 PM
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Even as someone who mostly liked it, it is in no way an RPG. It has vestigial elements like experience and levels, but equipment consists solely of weapon and armor with linear upgrades in very basic stats and an accessory that offers a very minimal benefit to like one ability.

The only customization is which Eikon power you prefer which is about as RPG as choosing what gun to use in CoD.

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Baron_Ox
01/05/25 8:31:27 AM
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it is an RPG, though, because of the level-based progression system, abilities unlocked through points you can allocate, and stat-based gear.

even if the upgrades are minor, specific, etc., I don't see how that changes anything. iirc, the first Mass Effect did something similar.

and as far as the CoD analogy, didn't the series take on some lite-RPG elements, including upgrading your weapons?

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JuanCarlos1
01/05/25 8:57:20 AM
#43:


Topic is negative and doesnt represent the overall sentiment on the game.

With quality of life updates, the game slightly improved upon pacing issues since you finish a quest you can instantly go back to the quest giver. This was one of the main issues for the vanilla game. Sure the quality of those quests still hurt the game, but spending minutes on them instead of half an hour to an hour greatly improves upon this.

If you like cinematic and action then it should be a no brainer. If youre strictly into deep, customizable games then not so much. But it is a good game with a meta score of 87 for vanilla game. Id say with updates and DLC that improves upon some of the games shortcomings, it turns into a 8.9 or 9.

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pegusus123456
01/05/25 1:06:11 PM
#44:


Baron_Ox posted...
it is an RPG, though, because of the level-based progression system, abilities unlocked through points you can allocate, and stat-based gear
Yeah, those are the vestigial elements I'm talking about. They sure don't do anything, but boy howdy, they are there

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GhostFaceLeaks
01/05/25 1:08:06 PM
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It's a modern Final Fantasy game so it is bad by default.

The best Modern Final Fantasy game is still worse than the worst classic Final Fantasy game.

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Squall28
01/05/25 1:32:55 PM
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It's a fantastic game and overhated by the internet. The story is on par with the playstation era titles. The combat is actually very fun. It's like a mix of Devil May Cry abilities and Genshin impact abilities. I actually like that there are more generic enemies you can just style on. Side quests are a common gripe, but you don't have to do them and they actually got decent story later on. The Eikon fights are among the best things gaming has ever created.

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Baron_Ox
01/05/25 1:38:40 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Yeah, those are the vestigial elements I'm talking about. They sure don't do anything, but boy howdy, they are there
true, they're watered down to the basest of elements, but to me, at least, it is what it is, after they started calling the Horizon games RPGs.

plus, a lot of turn-based JRPGs don't do anything meaningfully different (besides the turn-based vs action thing, of course) other than sometimes adding more numbers to the attacks/healing.

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Baron_Ox
01/05/25 2:11:24 PM
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ummm, I didn't say all turn-based JRPGs, or anything about games being turn-based in general; I was saying how a lot of turn-based JRPGs don't do anything extra/new with the concept.

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