Current Events > Democrats eye Harris 2028 presidential run as they devise political comeback

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she already lost the first time. what makes them think she has a shot at winning again?

Maybe because she'd have more than 91 days to campaign on who she is instead of the platform being to finish what Biden started, and actually sell the country on the idea of her instead of not-Trump.

That's the most grounded guess I can make.

Maybe because she'd have more than 91 days to campaign on who she is instead of the platform being to finish what Biden started, and actually sell the country on the idea of her instead of not-Trump.

That's the most grounded guess I can make.

Vance/Musk 2028 if they are that dumb

If she happens to be the next nominee and people still can't even get past the anti-Kamala propaganda 4 years later then we deserve a 3rd Trump term/1st Vance term.

if she runs obviously there will be a primary.

she gonna lose to Trumps corpse weekend at bernies style

That definitely sounds like something the Democrats would attempt.

they need to get rid of all these old hat dems and bring young fresh blood

These are people that had to be forced to realize after the election that a primary was needed. But the only takeaway they got was that Harris needs to be in that primary.

This.

Also to the people claiming the Democrat Party hasn't learned anything.... I'm throwing the voters into that mix.

IF, and I do mean if she wins the primary (or whoever wins the primary), and you spend months and months joining Republicans in their anti Kamala (or anti whoever won yhe primary) propaganda, then the voters didn't learn anything either.

Any voter falling over themselves to join Republicans to bash the Dem primary winner in some false effort to be "unbiased and fair" hasn't learned anything from 2016 or 2024.

so this topic is people acting like kamala was a bad candidate rather than accept their country is fundamentally broken at its core

trump was a worse candidate than kamala in every single way
and the fact that he won is the reason america is a global laughingstock

• Lost every swing state
• Only won New York, New Jersey and Illinois by single digits-low double digits, the worst performance by a Democratic presidential candidate in those states since 1988
• First Democratic presidential candidate in 20 years to lose the popular vote
• First presidential candidate since 1932 to not flip a single county
• Lost ground against almost every demographic compared to Biden
• All this is after spending a BILLION dollars in campaigning, and against a 70+ year old convicted felon who caused over a million Americans to die from a botched pandemic response and attempted a coup

* Lost every swing state
* Only won New York, New Jersey and Illinois by single digits-low double digits, the worst performance by a Democratic presidential candidate in those states since 1988
* First Democratic presidential candidate in 20 years to lose the popular vote
* First presidential candidate since 1932 to not flip a single county
* Lost ground against almost every demographic compared to Biden
* All this is after spending a BILLION dollars in campaigning, and against a 70+ year old convicted felon who caused over a million Americans to die from a botched pandemic response and attempted a coup

Sounds like she was a bad candidate to me.

trump dodged questions, said he had concepts of plans instead of actual plans, blew a microphone
so all you are doing is proving my point that america is fundamentally broken
kamala ran a near perfect campaign
it wasnt that she was a bad candidate
its that america is a joke nation

OK, but it is the Democratic Party's job to find a way to win with that electorate.

They ran on 'not Trump', when what the voters wanted was 'not Biden'. They had the best possible opportunity to do that with Harris, but blew it and spent the last month BFFing around with the fucking Cheneys.

kamala ran a near perfect campaign

If you think Harris ran entirely on "Not Trump", there isn't much to say to you.

Literally explaining your policies and plans was already "Not Trump" since he never talked about his plans to help people, just hurt people.

* Lost every swing state
* Only won New York, New Jersey and Illinois by single digits-low double digits, the worst performance by a Democratic presidential candidate in those states since 1988
* First Democratic presidential candidate in 20 years to lose the popular vote
* First presidential candidate since 1932 to not flip a single county
* Lost ground against almost every demographic compared to Biden
* All this is after spending a BILLION dollars in campaigning, and against a 70+ year old convicted felon who caused over a million Americans to die from a botched pandemic response and attempted a coup

Sounds like she was a bad candidate to me.

Add in podcasts blatantly favoring Trump and supposedly left leaning podcasts doing nothing but criticizing Biden/Harris without actually emphasizing the positive things the administration has done for the country.

bad candidate to me

This is all true, however, the fact she was put in last minute hurt her and would have hurt anyone else put in that spot. Biden really messed up by going back on being a transitional candidate until it was too late.

And yes, in a fair primary, I doubt Kamala would be the nominee.

I hope she runs for governor here since she's liked and loved in California.

The rest of y'all, figure it out amongst yourselves for 2028 since you know everything.

I feel the primary is gonna come down to Newsom vs Pritzker.

1. Take over if the President dies
2. Break a Senate tie.

"With not much to show for it."

She was Vice President. Her only purpose in office is
1. Take over if the President dies
2. Break a Senate tie.
It's a position without much power at all. The election centered entirely about voters pissed about the 2022 inflation and that was reflected in elections worldwide. Even though the current admin helped the US weather inflation better than any other economy on the planet.

Unfortunately, some people saw it fit to blame her for everything.

She didn't help herself there (at all) by saying she wouldn't do anything different than Biden.

I feel the primary is gonna come down to Newsom vs Pritzker.

"With not much to show for it."

She was Vice President. Her only purpose in office is
1. Take over if the President dies
2. Break a Senate tie.
It's a position without much power at all. The election centered entirely about voters pissed about the 2022 inflation and that was reflected in elections worldwide. Even though the current admin helped the US weather inflation beter than any other economy on the planet.

Do people want a nice guy like Pritzker or a jerk who can effectively fight Republicans like Newsom?

I'd like to know which candidates would've done better, honestly. Voters keep telling us they voted based entirely on inflation.

I would too, which is the point of a primary. Although a good starting point is listening to voters.

They're frustrated by inflation, so perhaps the best strategy is not to tell them inflation is under control. That will sow disillusionment and have them leaping to support the first person who says otherwise - who agrees with them.

We all know the problem of big impactful policy taking time, usually several years, so even if you passed some great bills and allocated tons of funds already voters can't see the bigger picture and want results now. The tragedy then is that as soon as that policy does begin to take effect Republicans will take all the credit (in a similar way Democrats get blamed for Republican policy).

So, what can Democrats do? It may go against their whole veneer of unity but maybe they need a candidate who says Democrats aren't doing enough and that they can whip them into shape. The problem with that is having voters actually believe it and whether the party would ever actually go along with it.

I don't necessarily think 'nice guy' and 'effectively fight republicans' are mutually exclusive; Pritzker has pledged to oppose Trump to protect Illinoisans.

She probably hoped that Americans would look around and see that, yes things actually were improving instead of just doing whatever Trump, Fox, Newsmax, and CNN told them to.