Current Events > Walmart becomes latest - and biggest - company to roll back its DEI policies

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https://www.wmur.com/article/walmart-roll-back-dei-policies/63014940

"We've been on a journey and know we aren't perfect, but every decision comes from a place of wanting to foster a sense of belonging, to open doors to opportunities for all our associates, customers and suppliers and to be a Walmart for everyone," the company said in a statement.

Bit ironic

About the only thing I agree with in that change is limiting the sale of chest binders to youths.

I'm not sure I would trust a kid buying a chest binder and understanding how to use it safely, nor would I trust Walmart to sell a chest binder that is safe to use in the first place.

The rest is nonsense, but at the very least the restriction on chest binder sales is a smart one, even if the restriction is for the entirly wrong reason.

Bladesyphon posted...

I'm not sure I would trust a kid buying a chest binder and understanding how to use it safely

good thing your trust doesn't matter

give trans youth access to gender affirming things like binders if desired

don't get why you think they're inherently dumb and can't learn how to use one safely

now walmart not having safe ones, yeah thats reasonable

Im glad were finally stopping those dumb ladykiller onesies we give toddler boys.

wait, no, were going to keep blatantly targeting children with creepy heteronormative shit?

Companies: *gouge prices to the point where people stop shopping*

Companies: how could woke do this?!?

Trump winning the popular vote shows that racism and hatred are popular now. So it is no surprise shitty companies will just follow suit

>Walmart will also no longer consider race and gender as a way to increase diversity when it offers supplier contracts. The company said it didn't have quotas and will not do so going forward. It will stop collecting demographic data when determining financing eligibility for those grants.

The chest binders thing is stupid but this is a wholesale positive change

So what does this mean for the Asian and Mexican food isle?

AnsestralRecall posted...

don't get why you think they're inherently dumb and can't learn how to use one safely

Because kids are, in fact, inherently dumb, and more often then not don't use *anything* safely. But you're right, it's a good thing it's not my trust that matters, and that Walmart is already doing it, so your argument is also a moot point - it's happening regardless of how you or I feel about it.

Maybe dial back the outrage response, and realize I didn't say that they should ban the sell of them entirely, only that like any product that can potentially cause harm if used improperly, it shouldn't be sold to youths (youths, not teenagers) without parental permission. Chest Binders, if used improperly, can cause harm - this is an undisputed fact. It's also an undisputed fact that most kids these days aren't too fucking bright, and probably shouldn't be given wholesale access to a product that they're likely going to look up how to use via the internet and social media.

But as always, I forget that this is GameFAQs and CE, and all the 261'ers whose echo chamber got taken away now have to jump on literally anyone has a slightly dissenting opinion, even when that opinion is presented with facts that are - surprisingly - not right wing or conservative, but simply a concern of not harming kids that a few years ago were eating fucking tide pods.

Bladesyphon posted...

But as always, I forget that this is GameFAQs and CE, and all the 261'ers whose echo chamber got taken away now have to jump on literally anyone has a slightly dissenting opinion

how do victims like this not get tired of being victims

stop it. be normal. talk normal

Bladesyphon posted...

Because kids are, in fact, inherently dumb, and more often then not don't use *anything* safely. But you're right, it's a good thing it's not my trust that matters, and that Walmart is already doing it, so your argument is also a moot point - it's happening regardless of how you or I feel about it.

Maybe dial back the outrage response, and realize I didn't say that they should ban the sell of them entirely, only that like any product that can potentially cause harm if used improperly, it shouldn't be sold to youths (youths, not teenagers) without parental permission. Chest Binders, if used improperly, can cause harm - this is an undisputed fact. It's also an undisputed fact that most kids these days aren't too fucking bright, and probably shouldn't be given wholesale access to a product that they're likely going to look up how to use via the internet and social media.

But as always, I forget that this is GameFAQs and CE, and all the 261'ers whose echo chamber got taken away now have to jump on literally anyone has a slightly dissenting opinion, even when that opinion is presented with facts that are - surprisingly - not right wing or conservative, but simply a concern of not harming kids that a few years ago were eating fucking tide pods.

doesnt Walmart sell rifles?

LeTigre posted...

doesnt Walmart sell rifles?

Or qtips?

Bladesyphon posted...

I forget that this is GameFAQs and CE, and all the 261'ers whose echo chamber got taken away

Oh geez, couldn't stop yourself from that one, huh?

Bladesyphon posted...

But as always, I forget that this is GameFAQs and CE, and all the 261'ers whose echo chamber got taken away now have to jump on literally anyone has a slightly dissenting opinion, even when that opinion is presented with facts that are - surprisingly - not right wing or conservative, but simply a concern of not harming kids that a few years ago were eating fucking tide pods.

Go take a walk.

Bladesyphon posted...

Because kids are, in fact, inherently dumb, and more often then not don't use *anything* safely. But you're right, it's a good thing it's not my trust that matters, and that Walmart is already doing it, so your argument is also a moot point - it's happening regardless of how you or I feel about it.

Maybe dial back the outrage response, and realize I didn't say that they should ban the sell of them entirely, only that like any product that can potentially cause harm if used improperly, it shouldn't be sold to youths (youths, not teenagers) without parental permission. Chest Binders, if used improperly, can cause harm - this is an undisputed fact. It's also an undisputed fact that most kids these days aren't too fucking bright, and probably shouldn't be given wholesale access to a product that they're likely going to look up how to use via the internet and social media.

But as always, I forget that this is GameFAQs and CE, and all the 261'ers whose echo chamber got taken away now have to jump on literally anyone has a slightly dissenting opinion, even when that opinion is presented with facts that are - surprisingly - not right wing or conservative, but simply a concern of not harming kids that a few years ago were eating fucking tide pods.

Why are chest binders such a uniquely dangerous item to buy when kids can buy all kinds of things from other departments and hurt themselves? Kitchen knives, mandolins, hammers, nails, power tools; hell you don't get carded for most OTC medicine, and you could OD on a lot of it. Why is safety suddenly a priority when it comes to gender affirming wear

Sadly, this is going to become the new norm in the Trump era. Trans people especially need to either leave the country or get used to being second class citizens for the next four years, most likely longer.

dead en irrival

Almost like companies want to discriminate and are now given the chance to do so.

firedoom666 posted...

Trump winning the popular vote shows that racism and hatred are popular now. So it is no surprise shitty companies will just follow suit

Will they follow suit with the lower prices demand as well?

hivebent4life posted...

Sadly, this is going to become the new norm in the Trump era. Trans people especially need to either leave the country or get used to being second class citizens for the next four years, most likely longer.

The last time blacks were knocked back down to second class citizens, it took 90 years to reverse itself (1877-1965). I don't expect minorities to see their rights returned to them in my lifetime. I myself expect to die seeing "Whites Only" signs.

don't worry as a seasoned walmarter they will roll out some half assed diversity program to replace the half assed DEI program they got rid of lol.

hivebent4life posted...

Sadly, this is going to become the new norm in the Trump era. Trans people especially need to either leave the country or get used to being second class citizens for the next four years, most likely longer.

please stop telling trans people to leave the country or get used to being treated like shit (especially when we already are), and start actually standing up for us.

Thank you!

LeTigre posted...

please stop telling trans people to leave the country or get used to being treated like shit (especially when we already are), and start actually standing up for us.

Thank you!

Im trans myself. And I live in a red state, with my Latino migrant husband. Im trying to focus on how Im going to survive the next few years.

hivebent4life posted...

Sadly, this is going to become the new norm in the Trump era. Trans people especially need to either leave the country or get used to being second class citizens for the next four years, most likely longer.

Yep. At minimum, trans people who are able to do so should find a way to at least move to a blue state. Those are gonna be the last line of defense, and even then some are gonna be better than others

I always smirk when I see gwyn post because of my tag saying ate cat food lol

VeggetaX posted...

So what does this mean for the Asian and Mexican food isle?

Trump tariff going to make them extinct

Noooooooo

Gibs tacos plz

I'm kinda shocked Walmart even had DEI policies in place. They are an extremely conservative company who donates frequently to the GOP.

Gwynevere posted...

Kitchen knives, mandolins, hammers, nails, power tools

...these things?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/53049070.jpg

LeTigre posted...

please stop telling trans people to leave the country or get used to being treated like shit (especially when we already are), and start actually standing up for us.

Thank you!

You know I've seen you post a lot, and it seems to me 60% of your posts you use your trans identity as a cudgel to talk down to other people. Most of whom are already on your side.

The poster you chastised about their very true statement, that trans people are going to be treated horribly, is trans themselves. But instead of understanding that you can both acknowledge that reality and still defend them, you just assumed they were completely disregarding your safety and/or status.

You need to take your finger off the trigger.

You know, I was wondering why DuckDuckGo decided to recommend me Wal-Mart ads when I was searching for a walkthrough for a main mission in Dying Light 2 the other day. How ironic given this recent news in which theyve bent the knee to the anti-woke hate mob.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1f99d8a4.jpg

Naughtol posted...

You know I've seen you post a lot, and it seems to me 60% of your posts you use your trans identity as a cudgel to talk down to other people.

The poster you chastised about their very true statement, that trans people are going to be treated horribly, is trans themselves. But instead of understanding that you can both acknowledge that reality and still defend them, you just assumed they were completely disregarding your safety.

You need to take your finger off the trigger.

I have to agree, too. She's aggressive in basically every single post she makes, and in the opinion of someone else who is trans... it's a very bad look. It does us no favors to hammer people who aren't even against us and can make things worse.

Dreepapult posted...

I always smirk when I see gwyn post because of my tag saying ate cat food lol

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/cad2ce2f.jpg

DrizztLink posted...

...these things?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/53049070.jpg

Have you ever had the high string snap while changing them? Talk to your kids about stringed instruments before it's too late

Naughtol posted...

You know I've seen you post a lot, and it seems to me 60% of your posts you use your trans identity as a cudgel to talk down to other people. Most of whom are already on your side.

The poster you chastised about their very true statement, that trans people are going to be treated horribly, is trans themselves. But instead of understanding that you can both acknowledge that reality and still defend them, you just assumed they were completely disregarding your safety and/or status.

You need to take your finger off the trigger.

no but listen she doesnt take the site seriously and puts zero effort into it

but has no problem chastising others, so asinine it is

Tigre seems to be going through some shit and is taking it out on everyone else

Dreepapult posted...

Tigre seems to be going through some shit and is taking it out on everyone else

youll notice its always the same miserable users doing stuff like that on this site

people "going through it" have no issue taking it out on others on CE

Dreepapult posted...

Tigre seems to be going through some shit and is taking it out on everyone else

I think most people who are trans are probably "going through some shit" at this point (and justifiably so, given the situation the US is going into), but it's not an excuse to lash out at people who aren't doing anything to hurt or demean you.

GrandConjuraton posted...

I have to agree, too. She's aggressive in basically every single post she makes, and in the opinion of someone else who is trans... it's a very bad look. It does us no favors to hammer people who aren't even against us and can make things worse.

I've specifically seen some disdain for cis people speaking for trans people on certain topics, or not listening to us soon enough, but it's like...there's not enough trans people to get by without the help of cis voices, and people listening and learning now is better than them never having done it at all.

I'm not really with the holier than thou type shit

GrandConjuraton posted...

I have to agree, too. She's aggressive in basically every single post she makes, and in the opinion of someone else who is trans... it's a very bad look. It does us no favors to hammer people who aren't even against us and can make things worse.

You do that all the time and go out of your way to personally insult anyone who disagrees with you, even when Ive taken your side multiple times when you were being piled on for being a doomer.

I wasnt aware that poster was trans and I will readily apologize if I offended them as Ive made it abundantly clear my goal here is to build community, but lets not pretend like the narrative here hasnt been dominated by cis people telling us to flee, despite that not being possible for the vast majority of us, rather than justcommitting to make their environments safe for us.

LeTigre posted...

You do that all the time and go out of your way to personally insult anyone who disagrees with you, even when Ive taken your side multiple times when you were being piled on for being a doomer.

I wasnt aware that poster was trans and I will readily apologize if I offended them as Ive made it abundantly clear my goal here is to build community, but lets not pretend like the narrative here hasnt been dominated by cis people telling us to flee, despite that not being possible for the vast majority of us, rather than justcommitting to make their environments safe for us.

I can get aggressive sometimes (especially if I think someone has a crappy opinion), and i'd be a hypocrite to deny that. My issue with what you do is getting aggressive with people who don't mean you any harm, which you do in almost every topic.

GrandConjuraton posted...

I can get aggressive sometimes (especially if I think someone has a crappy opinion), and i'd be a hypocrite to deny that. My issue with what you do is getting aggressive with people who don't mean you any harm, which you do in almost every topic.

Im literally autistic, which I talk about all the time, and naturally really dry. Im aggressive with almost no one on this board and its weird to get tone police-y when again, you do the same thing. Were all adults and if someone feels targeted or offended by anything I say, Ill gladly apologize because its not my attention.

using an unrelated topic to drag me for your personal opinions seems counter-productive at best, and its honestly really disheartening that you dont use that same passion to go after the people being actively transphobic or hateful.

Youre also welcome to your opinion, and truthfully, Im not thinking this board is a great fit for me anyway. Im very much used to a board like LUE where weve been closed off for decades, and its far easier to know people personally and how theyd take things. Thats just not the case here and thats also okay.

would have much rather you just message me though.

Damn you have LUE access? I wasn't here before they closed it

HashtagSEP posted...

Oh geez, couldn't stop yourself from that one, huh?

I mean he's being proven right in the thread lmao

Since when did Wal-Mart even have "chest binders"? It says they didn't have quotas before... but still wont.. and I never saw any pride items aimed at kids at Walmart in general so what are they even talking about?

Toonstrack posted...

I mean he's being proven right in the thread lmao

The only thing he proved is that he doesn't like getting even the gentlest pushback on his opinions, or will go on weird rants about boards that have been closed for months now

Toonstrack posted...

Since when did Wal-Mart even have "chest binders"? It says they didn't have quotas before... but still wont.. and I never saw any pride items aimed at kids at Walmart in general so what are they even talking about?

I think mostly online through 3rd party sellers?

Bladesyphon posted...

But as always, I forget that this is GameFAQs and CE, and all the 261'ers whose echo chamber got taken away now have to jump on literally anyone has a slightly dissenting opinion, even when that opinion is presented with facts that are - surprisingly - not right wing or conservative, but simply a concern of not harming kids that a few years ago were eating fucking tide pods.

Holy shit. One person responded to you and you melted down this hard? LOL

Dreepapult posted...

I think mostly online through 3rd party sellers?

Both Walmart and Target I think *only* ever sold them online.

Show kindness to your fellow CEmen and CEgals.