Current Events > I still can't believe he won the popular vote

(+) Yeah! (+)

We all knew he was gonna win the election

But with like 3-10 million less votes as always due to a dodgy broken miserable election system.

America is supposed to hate fascism, its supposed to be a vocal minority under masks who use underhanded tactics to succeed

But no... most of America is now that evil or that stupid. There is no longer any excuse or plausible deniability

And no one is even fighting back.

We failed
We failed our country, we failed our values, we failed our planet and we failed our children.

We won't recover from this. Even the absolute best case scenario now is just decades of mitigating the damage. Nationally and globally.

And I don't think we're gonna get the best case scenario

I just feel so disappointed and depressed . We lost, humanity lost.

The 9/11 terrorists won. We gave in
Russia won. We rolled over
Fear and suspicion won. We abandoned science and rationality

But for a few glorious years a handful of sociopathic billionaires will have more zeroes on some spreadsheets

He got fewer votes total than 2020.

This has everything to do with voter apathy and the perception that the Biden administration couldn't keep the cost of living prices down.

Maybe the pendulum swings back in 4 years. It depends entirely on if Trump fucks up and if our government still has elections by then.

SilvosForever posted...

He got fewer votes total than 2020.

That eould make it worse, not better.

UnfairRepresent posted...

America is supposed to hate fascism, its supposed to be a vocal minority under masks who use underhanded tactics to succeed

But no... most of America is now that evil or that stupid. There is no longer any excuse or plausible deniability

"But lots of people are so happy with fascism that they refuse to lift a finger to oppose it " is not an excuse

They're either fascist sympathisers who are lying to themselves or complete idiots

This is isn't pizza topping discussion here. There is no middle ground

Donald Trump won the popular vote

I think I am more surprised than in 2016

Those who never learned from history are doomed to repeat it.

IDK if that quote has ever been more true than it is today. We saw Trump and the GOP use the same tactics that Hitler and the Nazis did in the 1920s and 1930s, but very few people even realize how similar they are to each other.

Meh. She got 4 million fewer votes in Cali than Biden did. I'm sure a lot of Cali voters were apathetic bc their vote doesn't matter but don't actually like Trump.

Similarly a million fewer votes in NY. If those people came out she takes the popular vote within gaining anything in the EC.

I can

thats what happens when the Dems rush out a replacement who spouts word salad and is just as incompetent as their predecessor

had Reps voted for Haley during the primaries this wouldve been way more interesting, she was not as bad as the big T more middle of the road and her pro choice stance mightve been more neutral

I'm starting to think people just flat out dislike Harris more than Trump. It could explain why Trump has more votes than 2020 and Harris having 20 million less than Biden. Or maybe people just had no idea who she was or why she was running. She only started running a few months ago.

You're not living up to your username. You didn't unfairly represent this at all.

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Only by 600k votes. Barely kept up with population growth.

Srk700 posted...

Those who never learned from history are doomed to repeat it.

IDK if that quote has ever been more true than it is today. We saw Trump and the GOP use the same tactics that Hitler and the Nazis did in the 1920s and 1930s, but very few people even realize how similar they are to each other.

A few sayings fit

"All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing"

The forest was shrinking but the trees kept voting for the axe, for the axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was made of wood he was one of them.

Yeah, this is pretty disheartening. Its bad enough Trump won, but it feels like conservatives and incels have majority now. It really felt like the numbers were on the right side of history for the last few elections.

Muh eggs and milk are too expensive!

Even though inflation is down and the prices are still high due to corporate greed

samsungsalt posted...

thats what happens when the Dems rush out a replacement who spouts word salad and is just as incompetent as their predecessor

i was about to respond to this post seriously but i realize who this poster is so i will only highlight how this post isn't rooted in reality to those of use who are sane

gikos posted...

i was about to respond to this post seriously but i realize who this poster is so i will only highlight how this post isn't rooted in reality to those of use who are sane

He is tagged appropriately.

UnfairRepresent posted...

We

I thought you were British

gikos posted...

i was about to respond to this post seriously but i realize who this poster is so i will only highlight how this post isn't rooted in reality to those of use who are sane

I mean, he is not wrong.

Think about the people that Trump appeals to. Why do they like him? The most common answer will be that he tells it like it is, for whatever that means.

The truth is that Trump speeches resonate with people because he goes off script. He doesn't just read from a prepared speech. These are people that don't don't like listening the usual political talk aka "word salads".

A lot of Americans are simple people and go with what they understand. Trump resches them in a way the dems simply do not.

Dems basically needed another Obama.

DisgracefulSins posted...

I mean, he is not wrong.

Think about the people that Trump appeals to. Why do they like him? The most common answer will be that he tells it like it is, for whatever that means.

The truth is that Trump speeches resonate with people because he goes off script. He doesn't just read from a prepared speech. These are people that don't don't like listening the usual political talk aka "word salads".

A lot of Americans are simple people and go with what they understand. Trump resches them in a way the dems simply do not.

Dems basically needed another Obama.

Trump is absolutely nothing like Obama. Word salad does not mean political talk. When cons say this theyre saying Kamala is incompetent and doesnt know how to speak properly. These are the people who rally against her literally for the way she laughs.

Listening to a Trump speech in full should not speak to any sane person. Its literally incomprehensible half the time.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Trump is absolutely nothing like Obama. Word salad does not mean political talk. When cons say this theyre saying Kamala is incompetent and doesnt know how to speak properly. These are the people who rally against her literally for the way she laughs.

Listening to a Trump speech in full should not speak to any sane person. Its literally incomprehensible half the time.

Not arguing that. But to them it feels more honest because he isn't just reading. That really is as deep as it goes.

Word salad can also mean "a bunch of words that go on and on and I lost interest a long time ago".

A lot of Americans are stupid. Just is what it is. It comes down to charisma above all. Trump speaks in a way that stupid people understand.

And no, I have no doubts in my mind Obama would destroy Trump if he were able to run. Real charisma with leadership is what we need.

If people relate to Trumps barely coherant demented rambling and racism then there is no hope for humanity.

Look at the post 9/11 reaction and what Americans were gunning for and this isnf that surprising.

Moral relativism becomes real tricky when history is happening before your very eyes unfortunately

lilORANG posted...

Meh. She got 4 million fewer votes in Cali than Biden did.

How many did Biden get in Cali?

Cali is still counting btw. Still a few million incoming. I wont go so far as to say she might pull off winning the popular vote but she will probably reach or get close to his current total while his goes up not that much more.

GrandConjuraton posted...

Muh eggs and milk are too expensive!

Even though inflation is down and the prices are still high due to corporate greed

I know people use eggs just because, but there also were several outbreaks of bird flu that resulted in the slaughter and disposal of millions of chickens.

People forget how badly Kamala did in 2020.

Srk700 posted...

Those who never learned from history are doomed to repeat it.

IDK if that quote has ever been more true than it is today. We saw Trump and the GOP use the same tactics that Hitler and the Nazis did in the 1920s and 1930s, but very few people even realize how similar they are to each other.

Reminder we did have a sizeable Pro-Nazi movement here as well before and during WWII.

https://youtu.be/Bex5LyzbbBE?si=V4jx563Eu0K4Aa8n

It's the same thing that won 2016, a huge leg up on the social media presence and propaganda.
Unfortunately, this year isn't the aberration, it was 2020 since Trump did so badly. Heck, maybe even 2008 was the aberration as well and Republicans will win every time unless they colossally dump on the economy like 2008 and 2020.

SilvosForever posted...

He got fewer votes total than 2020.

This has everything to do with voter apathy and the perception that the Biden administration couldn't keep the cost of living prices down.

Maybe the pendulum swings back in 4 years. It depends entirely on if Trump fucks up and if our government still has elections by then.

Theyre still counting votes but hes already passed his 2020 vote count.

it should also be put into context that this election had one of the highest voter turnouts in the past 100 years. 2020 was historic, mainly due to Covid, but this year election is only slightly behind.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6152d2dc.png

UnfairRepresent posted...

If people relate to Trumps barely coherant demented rambling and racism then there is no hope for humanity.

This pic explains it. These folks voted for AOC and Trump. Look at their reasoning.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7f94c0c7.jpg

2020 was the most important election of our generation.

2024 was also the most important election of our generation.

Youre not gonna get people out like that again and again.

Jerry_Hellyeah posted...

2020 was the most important election of our generation.

2024 was also the most important election of our generation.

Youre not gonna get people out like that again and again.

I mean they're not wrong tho...

The candidate was Trump. The past 3 elections really were the most important since at least the cold war and arguably the civil rights movement

And we failed twice.

Jerry_Hellyeah posted...

2020 was the most important election of our generation.

2024 was also the most important election of our generation.

Youre not gonna get people out like that again and again.

Kind of like how we keep having "once in a lifetime" economic downturns.

Wait i thought tc was born and living in da UK

You right doe tc, we are fucked ._.

Cory898 posted...

How many did Biden get in Cali?

Cali is still counting btw. Still a few million incoming. I wont go so far as to say she might pull off winning the popular vote but she will probably reach or get close to his current total while his goes up not that much more.

Biden got 11.1 million in CA in 2020 and Trump got just over 6. According to the AP, CA's currently at 73%, with Harris a little under 7.5 million with 58.8% and Trump at 4.8 million with 38.4%. If the current percentages hold, probably another 2.5 million for Harris and 1.6 million for Trump. That would put Trump about 2 million ahead of his 2020 PV total, and Harris a few hundred thousand behind Trump's 2020. If the remaining CA vote heavily favors Harris, plus the ~10% left in Oregon and Washington, she could top Trump's 2020, but I don't see her topping Trump's 2024 count unless that "secret" Trump and Mike Johnson have was manipulating vote totals.

If Trump was being honest, he'd say he's surprised, too.

Ultimately, it comes down to an uneducated, apathetic electorate. Say what you want about his and hers campaign, but fact of the matter is people just do not understand what the GOP wants to install in this country.

So many people had no idea about Project 2025, or understand how the tariffs work, or understand how vehemently Trump lies. These just are not things that matter nor register to your average Joe on the street.

Social media being in the pocket of the ultra wealthy certainly doesn't help either.

Jerry_Hellyeah posted...

2020 was the most important election of our generation.

2024 was also the most important election of our generation.

Youre not gonna get people out like that again and again.

very true.

The thing that got me was that it happened so quickly and easily. Harris didnt even put up a fight.

All the good faith and momentum she started with died.

It was a terrible outcome all around - it's just that the people who voted for Trump just don't know it yet.

TheSuperSilver posted...

It was a terrible outcome all around - it's just that the people who voted for Trump just don't know it yet.

yup

Vegy posted...

Wait i thought tc was born and living in da UK

He is American. He just works in the UK.

wasn't unfair's gimmick that he was in europe? or am i thinking of someone else

GuerrillaSoldier posted...

wasn't unfair's gimmick that he was in europe? or am i thinking of someone else

I love that being Europe is considered a gimmick

Like I mentioned in another thread, he will probably get below 50% by the time CA is counted, for what its worth.

Sariana21 posted...

I know people use eggs just because, but there also were several outbreaks of bird flu that resulted in the slaughter and disposal of millions of chickens.

The nation's largest egg producer never had a single case of avian flu, and still jacked prices 138% because they could. A grand total of 5% of the nation's egg layers were culled due to the flu, but average prices skyrocketed.