Current Events > People have been complaining for DECADES that Dems suck at messaging

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MysteryMan923 11/07/24 9:16:15 AM #1:	Why haven't they fixed that yet? --- You ain't gotta like me You just mad cuz I tell it how it is and you tell it how it might be <cite>MysteryMan923 posted [p:982843846] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>Why haven't they fixed that yet?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuerrillaSoldier 11/07/24 9:17:05 AM #2:	they won't tell us because they suck at messaging --- Disclaimer: There's a good chance the above post could be sarcasm. Die-hard Oakland A's fan --- Keep the A's in Oakland! <cite>GuerrillaSoldier posted [p:982843854] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>they won't tell us because they suck at messaging</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacadamianNut3 11/07/24 9:17:41 AM #3:	People thought Biden was still running so at some point Democrats will have to go full smug and air/print something that explains things like people are literally 5 years old --- Roll Tide & Go Irish <cite>MacadamianNut3 posted [p:982843858] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>People thought Biden was still running so at some point Democrats will have to go full smug and air/print something that explains things like people are literally 5 years old</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 11/07/24 9:17:45 AM #4:	Because they suck at more than just messaging. --- Fix your hearts or die. When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:982843860] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>Because they suck at more than just messaging.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R1masher 11/07/24 9:19:37 AM #5:	The Simpsons predicted that --- R1R1R1R1R1R1 <cite>R1masher posted [p:982843886] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>The Simpsons predicted that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kiwimyweewee 11/07/24 9:20:22 AM #6:	In their defense it's hard to fight against an unbelievable amount of right wing propaganda that is fucking everywhere and practically all algorithms skew towards it. Like how do you fight that effectively? --- The low hanging fruit must be plucked. <cite>kiwimyweewee posted [p:982843899] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>In their defense it's hard to fight against an unbelievable amount of right wing propaganda that is fucking everywhere and practically all algorithms skew towards it.Like how do you fight that effectively?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Voidgolem 11/07/24 9:20:44 AM #7:	because for whatever reason they don't simply launch the same campaign advisors that go "we gotta pivot right and be more moderate!" every election cycle for the last like decade into the sun --- Why not go all in? <cite>Voidgolem posted [p:982843903] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>because for whatever reason they don't simply launch the same campaign advisors that go "we gotta pivot right and be more moderate!" every election cycle for the last like decade into the sun</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sauceje 11/07/24 9:21:06 AM #8:	MacadamianNut3 posted... People thought Biden was still running so at some point Democrats will have to go full smug and air/print something that explains things like people are literally 5 years old What the fuck can they even do about that? The campaign showed Kamala and Tim Walz and didn't show Biden at any point --- He was born in a coop, raised in a cage, children fear him, critics rage, He's half alive, he's half dead, folks just call him Buckethead <cite>sauceje posted [p:982843905] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>MacadamianNut3 posted... </cite><quote>People thought Biden was still running so at some point Democrats will have to go full smug and air/print something that explains things like people are literally 5 years old</quote>What the fuck can they even do about that? The campaign showed Kamala and Tim Walz and didn't show Biden at any point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mearcstapa 11/07/24 9:21:29 AM #10:	Right-wing billionaires own most mass media outlets. Good luck shaping your own brand image and narrative in the face of that. --- after years of waiting nothing came <cite>Mearcstapa posted [p:982843911] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>Right-wing billionaires own most mass media outlets. Good luck shaping your own brand image and narrative in the face of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 11/07/24 9:24:26 AM #11:	kiwimyweewee posted... In their defense it's hard to fight against an unbelievable amount of right wing propaganda that is fucking everywhere and practically all algorithms skew towards it. Like how do you fight that effectively? I don't know. But I'm pretty sure the answer isn't to just keep doing the things that aren't working. 'Weird' and 'Not going back' seemed to work, before they were exchanged for tame courtesy and bipartisanship. Or how about learning how to flood the space with your shit, instead of leaving it to your opposition. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. <cite>ai123 posted [p:982843945] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>kiwimyweewee posted... </cite><quote>In their defense it's hard to fight against an unbelievable amount of right wing propaganda that is fucking everywhere and practically all algorithms skew towards it.Like how do you fight that effectively?</quote>I don't know.But I'm pretty sure the answer isn't to just keep doing the things that aren't working. 'Weird' and 'Not going back' seemed to work, before they were exchanged for tame courtesy and bipartisanship.Or how about learning how to flood the space with your shit, instead of leaving it to your opposition.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 11/07/24 9:25:55 AM #12:	kiwimyweewee posted... In their defense it's hard to fight against an unbelievable amount of right wing propaganda that is fucking everywhere and practically all algorithms skew towards it. Like how do you fight that effectively? Media regulations. I know Americans are afraid of regulations, but they are there to protect people. <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:982843967] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>kiwimyweewee posted... </cite><quote>In their defense it's hard to fight against an unbelievable amount of right wing propaganda that is fucking everywhere and practically all algorithms skew towards it.Like how do you fight that effectively?</quote>Media regulations. I know Americans are afraid of regulations, but they are there to protect people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kiwimyweewee 11/07/24 9:26:04 AM #13:	On top of the giant ring wing propaganda mill republicans have a massive advantage that they will absolutely lie about anything and everything. They can say whatever they want with little to no repercussions. While dems can't even fart silently in a corner away from everyone without being absolutely destroyed for it. Like they can work on some things but it's definitely already at a huge disadvantage from the get go. --- The low hanging fruit must be plucked. <cite>kiwimyweewee posted [p:982843969] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>On top of the giant ring wing propaganda mill republicans have a massive advantage that they will absolutely lie about anything and everything. They can say whatever they want with little to no repercussions.While dems can't even fart silently in a corner away from everyone without being absolutely destroyed for it.Like they can work on some things but it's definitely already at a huge disadvantage from the get go.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sauceje 11/07/24 9:26:40 AM #14:	Rika_Furude posted... Media regulations. I know Americans are afraid of regulations, but they are there to protect people. Democrats didn't have a majority to pass regulations I thought --- He was born in a coop, raised in a cage, children fear him, critics rage, He's half alive, he's half dead, folks just call him Buckethead <cite>sauceje posted [p:982843977] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>Media regulations. I know Americans are afraid of regulations, but they are there to protect people.</quote>Democrats didn't have a majority to pass regulations I thought</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Voidgolem 11/07/24 9:26:42 AM #15:	Rika_Furude posted... Media regulations. I know Americans are afraid of regulations, but they are there to protect people. DOA. Right wing would froth themselves senseless going "muh first amendment" --- Why not go all in? <cite>Voidgolem posted [p:982843978] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>Media regulations. I know Americans are afraid of regulations, but they are there to protect people.</quote>DOA. Right wing would froth themselves senseless going "muh first amendment"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 11/07/24 9:27:38 AM #16:	ai123 posted... I don't know. But I'm pretty sure the answer isn't to just keep doing the things that aren't working. 'Weird' and 'Not going back' seemed to work, before they were exchanged for tame courtesy and bipartisanship. Or how about learning how to flood the space with your shit, instead of leaving it to your opposition. I'm trying to limit my posting, but this is touching on what I was starting to type out previously. Democrats have a tendency to try to explain everything in detail and spend like 10 minutes on shit and get sidetracked by other comments and then expect people to digest that info and make the sane, logical choice... but in reality that is all immediately wiped away when the media machine just cuts to a republican saying "Shut up nerd, I'm going to fix everything you broke!" and there is 0 push back on how exactly they would do it. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:982843994] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>I don't know.But I'm pretty sure the answer isn't to just keep doing the things that aren't working. 'Weird' and 'Not going back' seemed to work, before they were exchanged for tame courtesy and bipartisanship.Or how about learning how to flood the space with your shit, instead of leaving it to your opposition.</quote>I'm trying to limit my posting, but this is touching on what I was starting to type out previously. Democrats have a tendency to try to explain everything in detail and spend like 10 minutes on shit and get sidetracked by other comments and then expect people to digest that info and make the sane, logical choice... but in reality that is all immediately wiped away when the media machine just cuts to a republican saying "Shut up nerd, I'm going to fix everything you broke!" and there is 0 push back on how exactly they would do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenrir_Howls 11/07/24 9:33:17 AM #17:	Going to also point out that in addition to disinformation even when they do people are quick to forget and if they constantly go on people get tired of it. CE itself is a great example since users constantly parrot Dems suck at messaging, but when pointed out they have been putting in the work to get the info they act surprised then rinse and repeat. --- Loki's Good Boy <cite>Fenrir_Howls posted [p:982844061] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>Going to also point out that in addition to disinformation even when they do people are quick to forget and if they constantly go on people get tired of it.CE itself is a great example since users constantly parrot Dems suck at messaging, but when pointed out they have been putting in the work to get the info they act surprised then rinse and repeat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 11/07/24 9:38:38 AM #19:	Let's just look at our little bubble here on CE... How many topics over the last 2-3 months were about negative things Trump was currently doing/was going to do vs how many positive thing Harris was doing/going to do? There's only so many times the message can be "Vote for our candidate because it isn't their candidate" before people just tune out. --- You gotta laugh. That is the one thing at the end of your life you will not wish you did less of. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:982844132] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>Let's just look at our little bubble here on CE...How many topics over the last 2-3 months were about negative things Trump was currently doing/was going to do vs how many positive thing Harris was doing/going to do?There's only so many times the message can be "Vote for our candidate because it isn't their candidate" before people just tune out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenrir_Howls 11/07/24 9:40:26 AM #20:	JustMyOpinion posted... User Info: Fenrir_Howls 1. <img src="https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/avatar/Fenrir_Howls.jpg"> 2. Legend 3. User Since: Jun 2012 4. Karma: 299 5. Active Posts: 7 6. Follow 7. PM 8. Ignore And yet you didnt point out where I was wrong. --- Loki's Good Boy <cite>Fenrir_Howls posted [p:982844157] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>JustMyOpinion posted...</cite><quote>User Info: Fenrir_Howls 1. <img src="https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/avatar/Fenrir_Howls.jpg">2. Legend 3. User Since: Jun 20124. Karma: 2995. Active Posts: 76. Follow7. PM8. Ignore</quote>And yet you didnt point out where I was wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 11/07/24 9:45:49 AM #21:	That's easy to say, but everyone has a different idea about what the messaging should be. I don't know what the Democratic Party should do differently. The people wanted Trump. This seems like a bigger issue and not something the Democrats can control. --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:982844230] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>That's easy to say, but everyone has a different idea about what the messaging should be. I don't know what the Democratic Party should do differently. The people wanted Trump. This seems like a bigger issue and not something the Democrats can control.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuerrillaSoldier 11/07/24 9:47:53 AM #22:	EndOfDiscOne posted... That's easy to say, but everyone has a different idea about what the messaging should be. I don't know what the Democratic Party should do differently. The people wanted Trump. This seems like a bigger issue and not something the Democrats can control. how can you miss the obvious thing right in front of your face. what should the dem party do differently? how about give us someone to actually want. --- Disclaimer: There's a good chance the above post could be sarcasm. Die-hard Oakland A's fan --- Keep the A's in Oakland! <cite>GuerrillaSoldier posted [p:982844261] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>EndOfDiscOne posted... </cite><quote>That's easy to say, but everyone has a different idea about what the messaging should be. I don't know what the Democratic Party should do differently. The people wanted Trump. This seems like a bigger issue and not something the Democrats can control.</quote>how can you miss the obvious thing right in front of your face. what should the dem party do differently? how about give us someone to actually want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kiwimyweewee 11/07/24 10:05:28 AM #23:	Voidgolem posted... DOA. Right wing would froth themselves senseless going "muh first amendment" Yeah, I mean an attempt to return the fairness doctrine could be made but would get shot down for reasons you stated above like they did during the Reagan administration. --- The low hanging fruit must be plucked. <cite>kiwimyweewee posted [p:982844439] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>Voidgolem posted... </cite><quote>DOA. Right wing would froth themselves senseless going "muh first amendment"</quote>Yeah, I mean an attempt to return the fairness doctrine could be made but would get shot down for reasons you stated above like they did during the Reagan administration.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 11/07/24 10:09:18 AM #24:	kiwimyweewee posted... In their defense it's hard to fight against an unbelievable amount of right wing propaganda that is fucking everywhere and practically all algorithms skew towards it. Like how do you fight that effectively? [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Mearcstapa posted... Right-wing billionaires own most mass media outlets. Good luck shaping your own brand image and narrative in the face of that. --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:982844478] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>kiwimyweewee posted... </cite><quote>In their defense it's hard to fight against an unbelievable amount of right wing propaganda that is fucking everywhere and practically all algorithms skew towards it.Like how do you fight that effectively?</quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Mearcstapa posted... </cite><quote>Right-wing billionaires own most mass media outlets. Good luck shaping your own brand image and narrative in the face of that.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueTigerLion 11/07/24 10:15:02 AM #25:	bigblu89 posted... Let's just look at our little bubble here on CE... How many topics over the last 2-3 months were about negative things Trump was currently doing/was going to do vs how many positive thing Harris was doing/going to do? There's only so many times the message can be "Vote for our candidate because it isn't their candidate" before people just tune out. Yea. I just realized I had a better idea of what Vance stood for and memes about him than Walz. I barely know what Walz stood for and still dont know much about him. Maybe people who hated Vance messed up giving him so much publicity that he became famous for couch fucking and calling women childless cat ladies. Walz or Harris didnt really have viral moments like that giving them free publicity. --- Hey now. <cite>BlueTigerLion posted [p:982844549] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>bigblu89 posted... </cite><quote>Let's just look at our little bubble here on CE...How many topics over the last 2-3 months were about negative things Trump was currently doing/was going to do vs how many positive thing Harris was doing/going to do?There's only so many times the message can be "Vote for our candidate because it isn't their candidate" before people just tune out.</quote>Yea. I just realized I had a better idea of what Vance stood for and memes about him than Walz. I barely know what Walz stood for and still dont know much about him. Maybe people who hated Vance messed up giving him so much publicity that he became famous for couch fucking and calling women childless cat ladies. Walz or Harris didnt really have viral moments like that giving them free publicity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Charismic_Zach_Gowen 11/07/24 10:18:04 AM #26:	Mearcstapa posted... Right-wing billionaires own most mass media outlets. Good luck shaping your own brand image and narrative in the face of that. Old guard outlets aren't where gen Z is consuming information. Even Gen Xers are losing interest in old guard media. The Dems have just outright abandoned online news and entertainment which is absurd because it's fucking cheap as hell to make. --- In Brady We Trust. I've finally realized the secret to making a successful Mearn topic. Make it about CZG - Mearn <cite>Charismic_Zach_Gowen posted [p:982844580] in People hav... [t:80880456]...</cite> <quote>Mearcstapa posted... </cite><quote>Right-wing billionaires own most mass media outlets. Good luck shaping your own brand image and narrative in the face of that.</quote>Old guard outlets aren't where gen Z is consuming information. Even Gen Xers are losing interest in old guard media.The Dems have just outright abandoned online news and entertainment which is absurd because it's fucking cheap as hell to make. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > People have been complaining for DECADES that Dems suck at messaging