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GranTurismo 09/26/24 7:39:59 PM #1: |
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XBoner 09/26/24 7:51:36 PM #2: |
yep --- "I used to be a people person, then people ruined it" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheFalseDeity 09/26/24 7:53:23 PM #3: |
Only one that sucked imo. On average they were by far better than teachers in regular school. --- http://psnprofiles.com/TheFalseDeity Currently playing - OldSchool RuneScape ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 09/26/24 7:53:56 PM #4: |
TheFalseDeity posted... Only one that sucked imo. On average they were by far better than teachers in regular school.oh you mean like far better than your high school teachers? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 09/26/24 7:55:24 PM #6: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] how so, though? Like bad attitude, mean? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheFalseDeity 09/26/24 7:58:17 PM #8: |
GranTurismo posted... oh you mean like far better than your high school teachers?I dont remember too much for my elementary teachers but yeah better than middle and high school teachers by far. Which is how it should be to be fair, but i wasnt expecting the gap to be as big as it was. --- http://psnprofiles.com/TheFalseDeity Currently playing - OldSchool RuneScape ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThaGuyFromGTA3 09/26/24 8:00:23 PM #9: |
TheFalseDeity posted... I dont remember too much for my elementary teachers but yeah better than middle and high school teachers by far.don't they get paid a bunch more anyway though, college teachers. You pay more you usually get better talent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KnightofShikari 09/26/24 8:02:25 PM #10: |
had one with a very bad accent that made it very hard to understand. then when asked questions, would always say we weren't paying enough attention and that we should all just understand since it was a simple subject --- The Earth is round. Two plus two equals four. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won the 2020 election for President and Vice President of the United States ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThaGuyFromGTA3 09/26/24 8:04:21 PM #11: |
KnightofShikari posted... had one with a very bad accent that made it very hard to understand. then when asked questions, would always say we weren't paying enough attention and that we should all just understand since it was a simple subjectyeah seen that a lot a whole lot. Like profs who think they are too good, don't want to answer questions , it is beneath them. Was the guy like really mean and stuff? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Will_VIIII 09/26/24 8:07:10 PM #12: |
Only a couple --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Joelypoely 09/26/24 8:11:13 PM #13: |
I had two who were a bit too pretentious (for law and literature courses). I had two who had written their own expensive books to buy as a mandatory part of the course, felt a bit like a scam. However I did have a few great professors, especially for some philosophy courses. --- https://philoetryblog.wordpress.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 09/26/24 8:12:13 PM #14: |
Joelypoely posted... I had two who were a bit too pretentious (for law and literature courses).yeah math ones sometimes seem kinda bad. How much did their books cost anyway? Oh...you are a lawyer now? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Glob 09/26/24 8:12:25 PM #15: |
I only had one that was anything other than amazing and he ended up quitting due to ill health, so that may well have been affecting his performance, in hindsight. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 09/26/24 8:13:41 PM #16: |
Glob posted... I only had one that was anything other than amazing and he ended up quitting due to ill health, so that may well have been affecting his performance, in hindsight.i remember you , the univ was in england, what subject? Like many math profs are kinda like that imo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Glob 09/26/24 8:17:55 PM #17: |
GranTurismo posted... i remember you , the univ was in england, what subject? Like many math profs are kinda like that imo My undergrad and masters courses were both at universities in England. My undergraduate degree was in philosophy and my masters was in developmental psychology. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 09/26/24 8:19:51 PM #18: |
Glob posted... My undergrad and masters courses were both at universities in England. My undergraduate degree was in philosophy and my masters was in developmental psychology.yeah i remember , your school in vietnam you think they would not have hired you if not for your 2 degrees, they were required? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Joelypoely 09/26/24 8:20:55 PM #19: |
GranTurismo posted...
It was a bit too long ago to recall exactly. I just remember them being 3x as expensive as they should be for the value you get from them (could be different for other faculties, though interesting yourself or others had a similar experience with mathematics). I quit law to be honest, now work in psychology. --- https://philoetryblog.wordpress.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 09/26/24 8:23:31 PM #20: |
Joelypoely posted... It was a bit too long ago to recall exactly. I just remember them being 3x as expensive as they should be for the value you get from them (could be different for other faculties, though interesting yourself or others had a similar experience with mathematics).oh , interesting. So you paid for and graduated from the expensive law school anyway right? Though i heard that law school is not as much as medical school and business ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Glob 09/26/24 8:23:57 PM #21: |
GranTurismo posted... yeah i remember , your school in vietnam you think they would not have hired you if not for your 2 degrees, they were required? Yeah, you need at least a masters to teach there. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Joelypoely 09/26/24 8:33:34 PM #22: |
GranTurismo posted... oh , interesting. So you paid for and graduated from the expensive law school anyway right? Though i heard that law school is not as much as medical school and business At least here, if you quit within the first 2 years it's not too much of a loss. The first year law courses were about the same price as English/Linguistics/Philosophy. --- https://philoetryblog.wordpress.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeoRavus 09/26/24 8:36:04 PM #23: |
Not really. The English professor was kind of out there and talked to us all like we were 10. He gave me an A though so whatever. --- This is where cool people write stuff. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 09/26/24 8:36:43 PM #24: |
LeoRavus posted... Not really. The English professor was kind of out there and talked to us all like we were 10. He gave me an A though so whatever.what do you mean , talked to you like you were........? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tankboy 09/26/24 8:38:19 PM #25: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] My discrete math professor was also horrible, and for the same reasons you mentioned! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lderivedx 09/26/24 8:39:38 PM #26: |
I don't think I had any professors that I thought were particularly bad. --- i cant get off unless we're violating at least four OSHA regulations ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 09/26/24 8:39:38 PM #27: |
tankboy posted... My discrete math professor was also horrible, and for the same reasons you mentioned!have vaguely even heard of discrete math. Is it hard, like calc 2, engineering stuff? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lderivedx 09/26/24 8:41:27 PM #28: |
GranTurismo posted... have vaguely even heard of discrete math. Is it hard, like calc 2, engineering stuff? It depends. Most classes focus on discrete structures like integers, enumeration principles, trees, and algorithms. Also a lot of schools use it as their introduction to proofs. --- i cant get off unless we're violating at least four OSHA regulations ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tankboy 09/26/24 9:17:49 PM #29: |
GranTurismo posted... have vaguely even heard of discrete math. Is it hard, like calc 2, engineering stuff?It's about stuff like proving that a function that takes an argument that is another function that takes two arguments is the same thing as the first function applied to each of those two arguments separately and then passed to the second function. Terrible. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thermador446 09/26/24 9:19:20 PM #30: |
My Romanian math teacher was the worst. The entire class hated her. --- "While you were wasting your time castrating a priceless antique, I was systematically feeding babies to hungry mutated puppies!" -The Monarch ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 09/26/24 9:22:47 PM #31: |
Thermador446 posted... My Romanian math teacher was the worst.Yeah seems many in math , are foreign..... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phanir 09/26/24 9:37:36 PM #32: |
Had an awful one for four classes. First had him for a web design course. I had issues with CSS on our final project and tried getting assistance, being told it'd be a moment while he was at his desk doing his own thing. That was fine, but the moment a (admittedly cute) lady asked for help, he immediately ran over to assist before going back to his desk. I even reminded him I still needed help when he finished with her. Nada. Eventually figured things out at home, but my laptop hard drive fried and I lost everything. Tried emailing him to tell him what was going on and asking what I should do to get as much credit as possible with so little time left with no response. Eventually submitted a project made entirely with Dreamweaver, attached it to an email telling him I've been trying to get assistance for a while and he'd been ignoring me, and... still never got a response. He silently gave me full credit, but I felt like I left not learning the last few weeks of work properly. ...then the next quarter happened and I had him for all three classes: Animation I, Animation II (yes, they gave me both in the same quarter, fuck ITT), and something with a focus on Adobe Premiere. Quickly learned I shouldn't ask him for anything and sure enough, he prioritized the ladies over us gents in those classes as well. Had similar issues in the Adobe Premiere course and never bothered talking with him. Ended up being the first class I didn't get an A in, which kind of stung. Fuck you, Mr. Virgin. --- DFFOO ID: 801834319 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dummy420 09/26/24 9:39:52 PM #33: |
Honestly ive always been a bad student. But most of the professors didnt give a shit and were predictable. --- Trying is the first step towards failure, so just dont give it a shot and you cant dissapoint. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 09/26/24 9:53:14 PM #36: |
Phanir posted... Had an awful one for four classes.Interesting story, community college, your prod was an older dude, though? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vigorm0rtis 09/26/24 9:58:31 PM #37: |
The huge majority of my profs were great. I had a couple bad ones. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phanir 09/26/24 9:58:57 PM #38: |
GranTurismo posted... Interesting story, community college, your prod was an older dude, though?Younger. I think he was about 33? Very proud of his previous work as a web developer before teaching there. And yeah, he was definitely trying to get something out of those select students. It wasn't subtle. --- DFFOO ID: 801834319 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sonixs 09/26/24 10:02:35 PM #39: |
I had one that said nobody deserves A's and did not give anyone an A. The guy hurt our GPAs for no other reason than being a douchebag. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Princess_Eev 09/26/24 10:03:44 PM #40: |
Like most things, I would say I had a few really good ones, and a few REALLY bad ones. Most (>90%) were painfully average. One bad one stands out in my mind. This is a couple of semesters ago; I'm taking a graduate math methods course in physics (to fill out a minor for my Ph.D. because requirements). The professor was by his account really damn qualified; 2 Ph.D.s, 1 Masters in math from my school's math department, worked (works?) at NASA, whole nine yards. If it was true, it didn't show in his teaching ability. So, this class went through a collection of random topics. For those in the know, a selection of topics across a few semesters:
(You might notice that a lot of these topics are already covered in typical undergrad courses. So I came into the course very, very well-prepared.) He had some of the stereotypical worst traits of professors. Reading notes verbatim from a collection he had. Being really argumentative with students. Rambling off-topic about stuff. The usual. But some cases stand out. Firstly, he had this mantra. "The answer is always 0, 1, or 2i." I think it's self-explanatory how weird and dumb this is. Secondly, when he would explain things, I as a math student knew he was speaking absolute fucking nonsense. He was garbling together random words and technical phrases that had *nothing* to do with each other. I vaguely remember him likening probability distributions & inner product spaces together - in response to a student question that was about neither. A third incident also stands out. So, there was this one homework assignment he gave us. I still have the prompt on my SSD: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/acef9bb5.jpg If you took differential equations, you're probably wondering what the fuck you're supposed to do to solve this, even with the implication of using Frobenius, since the derivatives are in the exponent. We all did. So we asked him, just in case, because we had never seen a problem like this - did he mean to multiply the derivatives, not exponentiate? For like a week, this came up in class after class and he insisted that he was right. When prompted to explain it, his explanation was basically in line with what we thought was intended (no exponentiation), but then he insisted it was exponentiated. It took a couple of us finally caving, appealing to authority and basically going to the board and working out the problem as written until we got stuck (very, very fast, this one gets nasty very fast) for him to go "oh, well, I guess you guys are right." Jesus fucking Christ. What took the cake though? So, I often type up my notes in LaTeX - I have basically a 1200 page PDF of notes now, of key results from various classes I've taken in college & grad school or as quick reference material for when I feel the need. (More searchable and permanent and easy to modify than hand-written papers, less weight for me to carry, easy to share, don't have to keep track of what results come from which source ... etc.) This was mentioned at some point during the class as why I often used my laptop during class. (In reality it was because I was doing lesson planning or grading for the class I teach, but he didn't need to know that.) At the end of one semester, I forget which of the pair, he basically asked if he could have my notes from the class. This I wouldn't find too out of the ordinary - his notes were hand-written, having a typed-up set could be nice. But before I could turn him down (I hadn't actually taken any meaningful notes, plus dissecting my reference text was not in my weekend plans), he added as an anecdote that the notes he had weren't his own. The notes he had, that he had been reading verbatim, and were incomplete enough for him to have very fundamental misunderstandings of the core material on, were a previous student's notes from the class. (Not necessarily with him as the instructor, as I recall, just from someone else who taught the course.) The dude was a lazy instructor in all respects. Did not know the material, nor did he care enough to actually learn it or do anything more than read to us. And then tried to rope me into furthering his shit. Hell nah. I should've called him out on his BS that day. >.> Luckily I think enough of us complained about his incompetence that he got fired. So is the story I heard from a physics grad student anyhow. --- (she/her) | Math nerd, lover of pineapple on pizza <3 Infodumps: Dark Cloud 2: https://is.gd/PSE06J | PMD: https://is.gd/1lK5bM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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electricbugs2 09/26/24 10:06:05 PM #41: |
I went to media school at a JUCO. Most of my professors were just people who had actually worked in either radio or TV/Movies, so they were all solid teaching wise, they were just really eccentric and over the top. A couple of them smoked a lot of weed in their down time and the sports journalism teacher was a major cocaine fiend, but they were a hell of a lot better than a lot of the goobers I had in high school. --- Balenciaga hoodies and Gucci shoes #FreeMelly ... Copied to Clipboard!
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furb 09/26/24 10:07:35 PM #42: |
Not really. I feel like across 8 or so years, I only had like 3 or 4 were bad. --- You know how fads are. Today it's brains, tomorrow, pierced tongues. Then the next day, pierced brains. -Jane Lane ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Princess_Eev 09/26/24 10:10:29 PM #43: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Y'know, as someone teaching college myself (albeit lower-level math, and only one class a semester) I'm still surprised when I hear that students go to office hours. Not that I think it's bad, quite the opposite. But rather I've had maybe three students visit me in my entire time of teaching (about 8 semesters now?) for things that couldn't be handled via email. Most of the time I just sit around, play video games, speedrun, grade, or - honestly - fucking nap. (Open door policy, office hours for 2 hours weekly in the afternoon, so it's not a lack of availability. Even if it was, no one's arranged for any other times or whatever.) Joelypoely posted... I had two who had written their own expensive books to buy as a mandatory part of the course, felt a bit like a scam.Not only is it a scam, they're probably not getting much money off of that. Textbook writing is not very profitable, so if they're getting from it it's not from students. Tbh if I were to write a textbook I'd be straight-up just giving the PDF to my students or distributing it for free or telling them how to pirate it. Textbooks are a fucking scam. I haven't bought a physical textbook since early undergrad, and have probably saved >$1000 for it. --- (she/her) | Math nerd, lover of pineapple on pizza <3 Infodumps: Dark Cloud 2: https://is.gd/PSE06J | PMD: https://is.gd/1lK5bM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nitro378 09/26/24 10:11:37 PM #44: |
TheFalseDeity posted... Only one that sucked imo. On average they were by far better than teachers in regular school. --- Why is it only called class war when we fight back? https://youtu.be/fUuK6JtP7xA Number of 30-day suspensions for attacking Zionism: 3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 09/26/24 11:06:40 PM #45: |
Princess_Eev posted... Y'know, as someone teaching college myself (albeit lower-level math, and only one class a semester) I'm still surprised when I hear that students go to office hours.oh yeah , textbooks scam. Like are they still like 100 bucks per book? like great advancements in calculus over a few yrs , they have to change books... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Robot2600 09/26/24 11:09:37 PM #46: |
more like 150 for a pdf, gt edit: 150 to RENT access to said pdf --- April 15, 2024: The Day the Internet Died ... Copied to Clipboard!
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shadow_dreamer 09/26/24 11:30:32 PM #47: |
I only had one bad adjunct professor, but he only taught the real tangential classes my degree path required (an engineering economics class, an engineering ethics class, and a base statistics class). He was teaching as part of a program to get his PHD after working in the field for ~20 years. For the first two classes it didn't really matter because they were basically jokes anyway, but the statistics class was terrible. He did not know the material, so there was a 50% chance that if you asked him a question during class he would pull out the actual "Statistics for Dummies" book, putz around trying to find the answer for 5 minutes, and then say that he would have to get back to you next class, and that never happened. The final for the statistics class was first thing in the morning the day we had our master thesis presentations, so basically no one had any sleep and had to drag ourselves to the test. When I handed him my final he told me that he had already decided everyone's grade and I had an A. He had a couple of interesting stories from the field, but as a teacher he was just terrible. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Princess_Eev 09/27/24 12:05:21 AM #48: |
GranTurismo posted... oh yeah , textbooks scam. Like are they still like 100 bucks per book? like great advancements in calculus over a few yrs , they have to change books...lol exactly Math especially is one I can speak for, you'd have to hit senior year of undergrad to be touching math invented in the past century. Abstract algebra and applications thereof mostly, unless your curriculum is more rigorous with analysis/differential equations I guess. (Though this is largely just based on my own experience.) Like, God. The typical scary "this is the hardest class you'll take in undergrad" real analysis (the rigorization of calculus, basically) - most of that was done in the 1800s IIRC. Robot2600 posted... more like 150 for a pdf, gt$150 is generous. My students have a $200 online textbook for this semester. They lose access to it after a year. (Obviously this decision is well above my head - I'm not paid enough to be allowed to have opinions.) Fun fact: the textbook we're using is on the 13th (14th?) edition. I pirated the 11th edition for the first time I taught this course 2 years ago, and have gotten by completely fine with it as far as using it for teaching material & guiding the course go. --- (she/her) | Math nerd, lover of pineapple on pizza <3 Infodumps: Dark Cloud 2: https://is.gd/PSE06J | PMD: https://is.gd/1lK5bM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 09/27/24 12:27:44 AM #49: |
Princess_Eev posted... lol exactlyyou are an undergrad university prof? yeah kinda sad maybe true. Most of that math was written, done in the 1800s , never really thought of that. So in your opinion is most of that math stuff , like trash? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Princess_Eev 09/27/24 12:36:45 AM #50: |
GranTurismo posted... you are an undergrad university prof?Graduate teaching assistant; at my university's math department, that means I teach one class (among miscellaneous other duties) a semester in return for a stipend and free tuition. GranTurismo posted... So in your opinion is most of that math stuff , like trash?Definitely not. To be honest, even in a lot of STEM fields, you don't need anything more than calculus and linear algebra. You only really need the more advanced stuff for niche applications, and since those problems are a lot more abstract or have a lot more of a complicated structure they tend to only have been studied recently, using the "easier" stuff as a backbone. For instance, my advisor and I are diving into mathematical epidemiology - in short, modeling populations affected by a disease. This usually leads to looking at systems of differential equations, which are already complicated as all fuck even for the easy cases, so we can only really hope to find "special" pieces of information - equilibria, for instance, long-term populations, reproduction numbers, etc. It's to the point that, for nontrivial models of populations, apparently even just showing that an equilibrium is "stable" (a sort of "attractive" population size that a population might tend to, or tend to not go away from) is itself publishing-worthy - even though you could explain the problem in full to any math undergrad in their 2nd or 3rd year. Math is just hard. I guess, on rumination, typing that out also hints at how all this math builds upon itself in a way. Math is a relatively unique subject in that sense; it's very interconnected and applications can pull on a billion pieces of "basic" mathematics all at once in funky ways, where other subjects tend to not have that. Which gives the math you learn in school a further use - a stepping stone for bigger and better things. If mathematicians ever say they stand on the shoulders of giants, they really mean it. (Sorry if the explanation is overly vague or overly technical. It's hard to explain what I'm thinking sometimes since I don't know what information I can assume you know, but at the same time I don't want to totally gloss it over. Explaining shit is hard lol.) --- (she/her) | Math nerd, lover of pineapple on pizza <3 Infodumps: Dark Cloud 2: https://is.gd/PSE06J | PMD: https://is.gd/1lK5bM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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