Current Events > It's fucking exhausting trying to be an ethical consumer.

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pinky0926 09/04/24 7:50:38 AM #1:	I'm not even that serious about it, but my partner is. This is her life: buys all her clothes and appliances second hand doesn't use Amazon opts for Fair trade or similar wherever possible doesn't buy most household or vanity cleaning agents doesn't get plastic bags or really plastic anything Has to research companies before she buys things to see whether they treat their employees like crap or exploit animals or whatever Therefore most of the time doesn't buy things and when she does, it's crap. That's the worst part for me. I can get over the rest of it, but you know how fucking hard it is to clean the kitchen with homemade vinegar products? ffs --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:981985034] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>I'm not even that serious about it, but my partner is. This is her life:buys all her clothes and appliances second handdoesn't use Amazonopts for Fair trade or similar wherever possibledoesn't buy most household or vanity cleaning agentsdoesn't get plastic bags or really plastic anythingHas to research companies before she buys things to see whether they treat their employees like crap or exploit animals or whateverTherefore most of the time doesn't buy things and when she does, it's crap. That's the worst part for me. I can get over the rest of it, but you know how fucking hard it is to clean the kitchen with homemade vinegar products? ffs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 09/04/24 7:54:21 AM #2:	I'm happy my wife just recycles to do her part lol --- Currently playing - Dragon's Dogma 2 <cite>bsp77 posted [p:981985052] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>I'm happy my wife just recycles to do her part lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Popo 09/04/24 7:55:16 AM #3:	Then theres me https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3c1e2b78.jpg --- Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran <cite>The_Popo posted [p:981985057] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>Then theres mehttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3c1e2b78.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheHoldSteady 09/04/24 7:58:08 AM #4:	No ethical consumption under capitalism --- If she said we partied, then I'm pretty sure we partied. I really don't remember. I remember we departed from our bodies. <cite>TheHoldSteady posted [p:981985079] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>No ethical consumption under capitalism </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nemu 09/04/24 8:04:20 AM #7:	If youre doing all that stuff and youre happy, I guess nothing wrong with it, but if youre making yourself miserable doing it, sounds mostly performative. The impact from that will be extraordinarily negligible, so hurting your mental health over it isnt worth it. <cite>Nemu posted [p:981985112] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>If youre doing all that stuff and youre happy, I guess nothing wrong with it, but if youre making yourself miserable doing it, sounds mostly performative. The impact from that will be extraordinarily negligible, so hurting your mental health over it isnt worth it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 09/04/24 8:04:36 AM #8:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I really admire it tbh. She's not even grandstanding on it, she doesn't really tell people at all. She just gets on with it. But every decision she makes is pretty much vetted through Ethical consumer: https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/ --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:981985113] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I really admire it tbh. She's not even grandstanding on it, she doesn't really tell people at all. She just gets on with it. But every decision she makes is pretty much vetted through Ethical consumer:https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mad-Dogg 09/04/24 8:07:09 AM #9:	pinky0926 posted... doesn't buy most household or vanity cleaning agents doesn't get plastic bags or really plastic anything Ah man, these are pretty rough not going to lie. There is just those things like the toilet and bathtub you need a good cleaner with a bit of bleach in it for, and the great value walmart one is cheap and dammit it works. --- GTag:MadDogg730 PSN:lMadDogg NNID:xMadDoggx NS friend code:5313-0564-0819 Go buy cyber shadow like right now. <cite>Mad-Dogg posted [p:981985133] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite><quote>doesn't buy most household or vanity cleaning agentsdoesn't get plastic bags or really plastic anything</quote>Ah man, these are pretty rough not going to lie.There is just those things like the toilet and bathtub you need a good cleaner with a bit of bleach in it for, and the great value walmart one is cheap and dammit it works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teep_ 09/04/24 8:14:55 AM #10:	pinky0926 posted... doesn't use Amazon opts for Fair trade or similar wherever possible I do these pinky0926 posted... doesn't get plastic bags or really plastic anything I have 3 "sturdy" bags that I use and re-use, otherwise most places offer paper bags here --- [teep is] an evil genius who will one day kill us all - Choco teep is a God damn genius - Zodd <cite>teep_ posted [p:981985182] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite><quote>doesn't use Amazonopts for Fair trade or similar wherever possible</quote>I do thesepinky0926 posted... </cite><quote>doesn't get plastic bags or really plastic anything</quote>I have 3 "sturdy" bags that I use and re-use, otherwise most places offer paper bags here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kimberly 09/04/24 8:18:21 AM #11:	Has she heard of Blueland? A few of the podcasts I listen to tout it as a product aiming at eco-friendly cleaning supplies, sold in ultra concentrated formulas/pressed powder brickettes/etc to try to cut down on transport/plastic waste. Beyond that though I don't know if they are as ethical as they claim to be. --- I'll be your guide when you wanna get lost I'll be the sword at your side at all cost <cite>Kimberly posted [p:981985210] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>Has she heard of Blueland? A few of the podcasts I listen to tout it as a product aiming at eco-friendly cleaning supplies, sold in ultra concentrated formulas/pressed powder brickettes/etc to try to cut down on transport/plastic waste. Beyond that though I don't know if they are as ethical as they claim to be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 09/04/24 8:41:21 AM #13:	It's impossible. Human suffering is always somewhere in the chain, no matter where you go and what you do. It is not the individual responsibility of every person to minimize the harm they benefit from, it is the responsibility of all of us to force our governments and regulators to stop allowing products of child slavery to be sold, and to stop slavery and exploitation around the world. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:981985389] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>It's impossible. Human suffering is always somewhere in the chain, no matter where you go and what you do. It is not the individual responsibility of every person to minimize the harm they benefit from, it is the responsibility of all of us to force our governments and regulators to stop allowing products of child slavery to be sold, and to stop slavery and exploitation around the world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 09/04/24 9:11:45 AM #14:	I do some of the things in the OP. I still use Amazon though a lot less in the last couple years, and I don't really research companies, but I also try to buy a lot of stuff second hand which would mean I don't necessarily need to research for a second hand product. --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:981985613] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>I do some of the things in the OP. I still use Amazon though a lot less in the last couple years, and I don't really research companies, but I also try to buy a lot of stuff second hand which would mean I don't necessarily need to research for a second hand product.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 09/04/24 9:14:06 AM #15:	I think it's admirable that she does this. Quietly getting on with doing what she feels is right. Calling it 'performative', or pointing out that she's not going to save the planet by herself is being a dick and showing a limited understanding. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. <cite>ai123 posted [p:981985631] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>I think it's admirable that she does this. Quietly getting on with doing what she feels is right.Calling it 'performative', or pointing out that she's not going to save the planet by herself is being a dick and showing a limited understanding.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XxZiomaxX 09/04/24 11:34:52 AM #16:	Kimberly posted... Has she heard of Blueland? A few of the podcasts I listen to tout it as a product aiming at eco-friendly cleaning supplies, sold in ultra concentrated formulas/pressed powder brickettes/etc to try to cut down on transport/plastic waste. Beyond that though I don't know if they are as ethical as they claim to be. The Blueland cleaning products work great. I use them --- LAL <cite>XxZiomaxX posted [p:981987104] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>Kimberly posted... </cite><quote>Has she heard of Blueland? A few of the podcasts I listen to tout it as a product aiming at eco-friendly cleaning supplies, sold in ultra concentrated formulas/pressed powder brickettes/etc to try to cut down on transport/plastic waste. Beyond that though I don't know if they are as ethical as they claim to be.</quote>The Blueland cleaning products work great. I use them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain_S_Fiend 09/04/24 11:50:26 AM #17:	TheHoldSteady posted... No ethical consumption under capitalism --- The food here is terrible. My steak was so tough it attacked my coffee and the coffee was too weak to defend itself. <cite>Villain_S_Fiend posted [p:981987282] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>TheHoldSteady posted... </cite><quote>No ethical consumption under capitalism</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain_S_Fiend 09/04/24 11:51:23 AM #18:	Kimberly posted... Has she heard of Blueland? A few of the podcasts I listen to tout it Would one of those be The Besties? --- The food here is terrible. My steak was so tough it attacked my coffee and the coffee was too weak to defend itself. <cite>Villain_S_Fiend posted [p:981987294] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>Kimberly posted... </cite><quote>Has she heard of Blueland? A few of the podcasts I listen to tout it</quote>Would one of those be The Besties?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HighSeraph 09/04/24 11:52:17 AM #19:	I'm a corporate whore --- She/Her Crimsoness' Alt The shadows I live with are numberless <cite>HighSeraph posted [p:981987302] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>I'm a corporate whore</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kimberly 09/04/24 8:23:25 PM #21:	Villain_S_Fiend posted... Would one of those be The Besties? Naw, Matt Bernstein's A Little Fruity podcast and the Some More News podcast/youtube thing. Never really watched any of the McElroy family stuff, had to google what that podcast was lol. --- I'll be your guide when you wanna get lost I'll be the sword at your side at all cost <cite>Kimberly posted [p:981993850] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>Villain_S_Fiend posted... </cite><quote>Would one of those be The Besties?</quote>Naw, Matt Bernstein's A Little Fruity podcast and the Some More News podcast/youtube thing.Never really watched any of the McElroy family stuff, had to google what that podcast was lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robot2600 09/04/24 8:24:09 PM #22:	divorce /s --- April 15, 2024: The Day the Internet Died <cite>Robot2600 posted [p:981993858] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>divorce /s</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boomgetchopped3 09/04/24 8:33:00 PM #23:	Man I would have to give up so much if I lived like this. I take it shes not a gamer or into most shows. --- It's literally the same thing <cite>boomgetchopped3 posted [p:981993961] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>Man I would have to give up so much if I lived like this.I take it shes not a gamer or into most shows.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sry4PartyRockin 09/04/24 8:36:06 PM #24:	I mean this is exactly what every single person on the planet should aspire to Maybe not hit every one, but at least be aware of them and put some kind of effort into hitting as many as they can <cite>Sry4PartyRockin posted [p:981994001] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>I mean this is exactly what every single person on the planet should aspire toMaybe not hit every one, but at least be aware of them and put some kind of effort into hitting as many as they can</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hyena_Of_Ice 09/04/24 8:36:34 PM #25:	I hope she realizes that alcohol and vinegar don't work as universal disinfectants. <cite>Hyena_Of_Ice posted [p:981994011] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>I hope she realizes that alcohol and vinegar don't work as universal disinfectants. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KnightofShikari 09/04/24 8:40:16 PM #26:	a bit of a spoiler for the good place but this does go over how it's pretty much impossible nowadays: https://youtu.be/R8m_5HDZF7w?t=98 start about about 1:38 if the link doesn't take you there --- The Earth is round. Two plus two equals four. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won the 2020 election for President and Vice President of the United States <cite>KnightofShikari posted [p:981994068] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>a bit of a spoiler for the good place but this does go over how it's pretty much impossible nowadays:https://youtu.be/R8m_5HDZF7w?t=98start about about 1:38 if the link doesn't take you there</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 09/04/24 8:41:46 PM #27:	its literally impossible --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:981994084] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>its literally impossible</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheLiarParadox 09/04/24 8:43:26 PM #28:	Huh. I thought this board loved harm reduction. --- Spongebob is not a contraceptive. <cite>TheLiarParadox posted [p:981994101] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>Huh. I thought this board loved harm reduction. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BDSMKane 09/04/24 9:35:21 PM #29:	This topic isnt what I thought it was. I thought this was a topic about (I guess responsible?) consumerism, where people are mindful of their money and choose which businesses they do and dont support. Thats the lynchpin of capitalism that our spoiled country has ignored for decades, because were bloated with excess and can throw money at even the worst businesses. Then we vocally complain about how horrible it is as we open our wallets, and blame the magical capitalist gods for taking advantage of our eagerness to bathe them in the sweat of our labor. That got pretty negative. Good on your partner, and yes it is exhausting. If we werent all so damned tired more of us would do it. But capitalism wins when were apathetic. --- No matter our origin, we are all one family, we all share one planet, and we all need to feel loved and accepted. We are more alike than different. <cite>BDSMKane posted [p:981994702] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>This topic isnt what I thought it was. I thought this was a topic about (I guess responsible?) consumerism, where people are mindful of their money and choose which businesses they do and dont support. Thats the lynchpin of capitalism that our spoiled country has ignored for decades, because were bloated with excess and can throw money at even the worst businesses. Then we vocally complain about how horrible it is as we open our wallets, and blame the magical capitalist gods for taking advantage of our eagerness to bathe them in the sweat of our labor.That got pretty negative. Good on your partner, and yes it is exhausting. If we werent all so damned tired more of us would do it. But capitalism wins when were apathetic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sry4PartyRockin 09/05/24 5:00:09 AM #30:	BDSMKane posted... This topic isnt what I thought it was. I thought this was a topic about (I guess responsible?) consumerism, where people are mindful of their money and choose which businesses they do and dont support. Thats the lynchpin of capitalism that our spoiled country has ignored for decades, because were bloated with excess and can throw money at even the worst businesses. Then we vocally complain about how horrible it is as we open our wallets, and blame the magical capitalist gods for taking advantage of our eagerness to bathe them in the sweat of our labor. That got pretty negative. Good on your partner, and yes it is exhausting. If we werent all so damned tired more of us would do it. But capitalism wins when were apathetic. Hit the nail on the head. IMO where you choose to spend your money has a more lasting impact than who you vote for. Obviously vote ethically, but think of spending like voting with your wallet. You do it literally every single day. Then those same companies either invest in their workers, or in lobbyists. <cite>Sry4PartyRockin posted [p:981997675] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>BDSMKane posted... </cite><quote>This topic isnt what I thought it was. I thought this was a topic about (I guess responsible?) consumerism, where people are mindful of their money and choose which businesses they do and dont support. Thats the lynchpin of capitalism that our spoiled country has ignored for decades, because were bloated with excess and can throw money at even the worst businesses. Then we vocally complain about how horrible it is as we open our wallets, and blame the magical capitalist gods for taking advantage of our eagerness to bathe them in the sweat of our labor.That got pretty negative. Good on your partner, and yes it is exhausting. If we werent all so damned tired more of us would do it. But capitalism wins when were apathetic.</quote>Hit the nail on the head.IMO where you choose to spend your money has a more lasting impact than who you vote for. Obviously vote ethically, but think of spending like voting with your wallet. You do it literally every single day. Then those same companies either invest in their workers, or in lobbyists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 09/05/24 5:06:39 AM #31:	The myth that free market capitalism gives you any more than a narrow, heavily proscribed type of freedom. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. <cite>ai123 posted [p:981997702] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>The myth that free market capitalism gives you any more than a narrow, heavily proscribed type of freedom.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArrogantRat 09/05/24 5:50:15 AM #32:	Read Unlearning Shame by Devon Price tbh. Individuals can't change a broken system through "ethical consumption." Only collective action can. --- Jesus, if you're listening, let me handle my liquor. Jesus, if you're there, why do I feel alone in this room with you? <cite>ArrogantRat posted [p:981997866] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>Read Unlearning Shame by Devon Price tbh. Individuals can't change a broken system through "ethical consumption." Only collective action can.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sry4PartyRockin 09/05/24 6:01:28 AM #33:	Yeah or we can just smoke em since we got em, heat the planet up, poison our waterways, and get our extinction event over with because fuck trying, right? <cite>Sry4PartyRockin posted [p:981997915] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>Yeah or we can just smoke em since we got em, heat the planet up, poison our waterways, and get our extinction event over with because fuck trying, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 09/05/24 6:03:14 AM #34:	I would point out that this isn't an either/or thing. She is not someone who chooses to boycott amazon and then simply never engages in collective action. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:981997918] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>I would point out that this isn't an either/or thing. She is not someone who chooses to boycott amazon and then simply never engages in collective action. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pinky0926 09/05/24 6:10:58 AM #36:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Laughing at myself for suggesting this to you of all people but you're not on a VPN or something are you? --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:981997959] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Laughing at myself for suggesting this to you of all people but you're not on a VPN or something are you? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArrogantRat 09/05/24 6:16:32 AM #37:	pinky0926 posted... I would point out that this isn't an either/or thing. She is not someone who chooses to boycott amazon and then simply never engages in collective action. Is the whole ethical consumption thing causing y'all undue stress? --- Jesus, if you're listening, let me handle my liquor. Jesus, if you're there, why do I feel alone in this room with you? <cite>ArrogantRat posted [p:981997979] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite><quote>I would point out that this isn't an either/or thing. She is not someone who chooses to boycott amazon and then simply never engages in collective action.</quote>Is the whole ethical consumption thing causing y'all undue stress?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giacomo_Hawkins 09/05/24 6:23:14 AM #38:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Website came up for me just fine. On topic, does your partner use True Price as a resource? https://trueprice.org/ --- Will the little voice in the back of my mind screaming "This is a bad idea" please yield the floor. --Mikey Chivalry be hanged, and so will you. <cite>Giacomo_Hawkins posted [p:981998008] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Website came up for me just fine.On topic, does your partner use True Price as a resource? https://trueprice.org/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pinky0926 09/05/24 6:47:56 AM #40:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] oh... --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:981998125] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> oh...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BB_mofo 09/05/24 10:53:33 AM #41:	Garioshi posted... It's impossible. Human suffering is always somewhere in the chain, no matter where you go and what you do. If you get all your needs from begging off other people, then you aren't directly tied into the chain of human suffering caused by consumption. Just make sure that it's something they already have on hand and not something you ask them to purchase for you. Buddhist monks already figured this out. --- "But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?" -Mark Twain <cite>BB_mofo posted [p:982000313] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>Garioshi posted... </cite><quote>It's impossible. Human suffering is always somewhere in the chain, no matter where you go and what you do.</quote>If you get all your needs from begging off other people, then you aren't directly tied into the chain of human suffering caused by consumption. Just make sure that it's something they already have on hand and not something you ask them to purchase for you. Buddhist monks already figured this out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LonelyStoner 09/05/24 10:56:05 AM #42:	Your partner sounds pretty conscientious. --- He's all alone through the day and night. <cite>LonelyStoner posted [p:982000348] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>Your partner sounds pretty conscientious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheLiarParadox 09/05/24 7:56:56 PM #43:	ArrogantRat posted... Read Unlearning Shame by Devon Price tbh. Individuals can't change a broken system through "ethical consumption." Only collective action can. Sounds interesting. I just put it in my Amazon cart. Can't wait to read it. --- Spongebob is not a contraceptive. <cite>TheLiarParadox posted [p:982007557] in It's fucki... [t:80840500]...</cite> <quote>ArrogantRat posted... </cite><quote>Read Unlearning Shame by Devon Price tbh. Individuals can't change a broken system through "ethical consumption." Only collective action can.</quote>Sounds interesting. I just put it in my Amazon cart. Can't wait to read it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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