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BaphometFlux 07/29/24 8:03:17 PM #1: |
I personally love turn based combat and I wish it was the default combat system in every RPG, but that's just me. I am a little bummed that FF has seemingly abandoned it and I wish Square goes back to it in the future (though I doubt it will). --- "The Future Rules!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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K181 07/29/24 8:04:47 PM #2: |
They mostly feel like a prisoner of past gaming limitations that have been carried over to the modern day out of obligation more so than necessity. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bsp77 07/29/24 8:05:03 PM #4: |
More often than not, I find it boring Baldur's Gate 3 was awesome though --- Currently playing - Final Fantasy VII Rebirth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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firedoom666 07/29/24 8:05:20 PM #5: |
I really enjoy it, it is a shame too many classic series gave up on it --- We're on a journey to forever! Dreams eternal in a wondrous world without walls We are Forever, wondering what the future holds ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samm 07/29/24 8:05:33 PM #6: |
Great when done well. The last couple of yakuza games and Persona do it well ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 07/29/24 8:05:58 PM #7: |
When you say turn based, do you mean true traditional turn-based? Or do you include things like Active Time Battle and grandia's time-based system? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Accolon 07/29/24 8:06:29 PM #8: |
Good, I can't do much action gaming anymore --- http://i.imgur.com/XAMp8.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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archizzy 07/29/24 8:06:44 PM #9: |
I still love it and honestly its my preference in rpgs. Its what I fell in love with all those years and I just love that classic style gameplay. But I also still enjoy plenty of action based rpgs as well. --- PSN ID: sled_dogs76 60" Pioneer Kuro Elite PRO151FD, Yamaha RX-V3900 A/V Receiver, Oppo DV983-H player. Coming soon: 2 Seaton Submersives from Mark Seaton ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 07/29/24 8:07:15 PM #10: |
depends on the game --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CRON 07/29/24 8:07:57 PM #11: |
Outside of strategy-based games it's completely outdated and archaic. The only turn-based games I like are onces where timing is part of it, like the Mario RPGs. --- Thanks for reading! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheOtherMike 07/29/24 8:07:58 PM #12: |
I used to love it but now I get bored with turn based. I was never heavily into RPGs though, just the SNES-PSX era FFs with a few others here and there, most of which were also Square games. I recently finished a replay of FFVI, but aside from that it's been years since I finished a turn-based RPG. --- Only two things can end a Republican's career - a dead girl or a live boy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 07/29/24 8:08:11 PM #13: |
Turn based is the main games I play. Much better than action rpgs. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HighSeraph 07/29/24 8:08:55 PM #14: |
Almost universally better than other modes --- She/Her She rings like a bell through the night ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DodogamaRayBrst 07/29/24 8:09:34 PM #15: |
Expedition 33 is going to be fucking fire. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bsp77 07/29/24 8:10:31 PM #16: |
DodogamaRayBrst posted... Expedition 33 is going to be fucking fire.I hope so --- Currently playing - Final Fantasy VII Rebirth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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snae99 07/29/24 8:10:51 PM #17: |
Its great as long as it isnt grindy. --- Currently playing: Nothing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PowerOats 07/29/24 8:15:30 PM #18: |
I prefer action RPGs, but I'm not against turn based. However, my tolerance for slow paced turn based gets lower every year. If a game is gonna be turn based it needs to be SNAPPY One thing I appreciate about FFX is 80% of combat actions is nigh instant in animation Attack > Target > THWACK Blk.Magic > Thunder > Target > rumbleBZZT Its so quick. Although you lose out on cooler animations sometimes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Enclave 07/29/24 8:15:37 PM #19: |
K181 posted... They mostly feel like a prisoner of past gaming limitations that have been carried over to the modern day out of obligation more so than necessity. People sure like to say this but it's very much not true --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mad-Dogg 07/29/24 8:19:40 PM #20: |
I'm still fine with it for the most part, but I do think turn based systems in general can be a bit overhyped by some people that forever like to dwell on nostalgia. (Not trying to throw shade at any poster in particular, I mean in general in gaming communities across the net. Overhyped in a "this series is now absolutely ruined because its trying something new" kind of way). Timing based systems like with super mario rpg's, south park stick of truth and the indie rpg cris tales is my favorite innovation of turn based systems. Modern persona is fine, but I wouldn't hesitate to try a action-based variant like atlus did with the devil summoner raidou kuzunoha games. The ATB+action blend system square-enix came up with for final fantasy 7 remake+rebirth is by far one of the best rpg systems anyone ever came up with that I like and so I am glad square-enix is always willing to try something new compared to sticking with the same ol' same ol'. --- GTag:MadDogg730 PSN:lMadDogg NNID:xMadDoggx NS friend code:5313-0564-0819 Go buy cyber shadow like right now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bsp77 07/29/24 8:21:34 PM #21: |
Mad-Dogg posted... The ATB+action blend system square-enix came up with for final fantasy 7 remake+rebirth is by far one of the best rpg systems anyone ever came up with that I like and so I am glad square-enix is always willing to try something new compared to sticking with the same ol' same ol'.Yeah, whenever developers can successfully mix action and commands together, I find it pretty slick. --- Currently playing - Final Fantasy VII Rebirth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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a-c-a-b 07/29/24 8:23:07 PM #22: |
I've always loved turn-based RPGs and never lost interest in playing them. It sucks that the big name developers don't focus on it much these days, but thankfully there's some really wicked indie games out there. I also love the trend of HD remasters of older games and hope it continues. --- Save for your doomed future ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cemith 07/29/24 8:30:39 PM #23: |
Turn based is a time honored tried and true system. With plenty of room for the insertion of it's own submechanics. Press Turn / One More from SMT Baldur's Gate (and DnD as a whole's synergy) Mother's HP drain system Shit like that. Turn based is great and shouldn't go anywhere. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strider102 07/29/24 8:36:56 PM #24: |
My feelings are such: I don't hate it, but it just got kinda dull and boring after awhile and I used to love games that were turn based. I still play games with it, but I prefer more action oriented games now. --- "I dreamt I was a moron." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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luigi33 07/29/24 8:40:28 PM #25: |
The floor for Turn based combat is lower, but the ceiling is higher than action based rpg combat. I have yet to see a action rpg battle system that is more interactive and creative as say, BG3. With that said you can make the argrument that Deus Ex and other Immersive Sims are as interactive as BG3 but....iono. --- RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5700x,16GB DDR4, 700WGold PSU Switch FC: SW-3966-2111-8902, Proud Steam Deck Owner ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 07/29/24 8:44:25 PM #26: |
I enjoy most of them, so long as they bring in some fun mechanics. I burned out a bit on the Legend of Heroes/Trails games since I played all 4 Cold Steel games back to back. But I still love Persona, Grandia, Paper Mario, etc. Turn based strategy games are great as well --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198372263559/#sort=order ... Copied to Clipboard!
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anttttt 07/29/24 8:46:19 PM #27: |
nothing inherently wrong with them but they often feel super solved and overly simple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jupiter 07/29/24 8:46:44 PM #28: |
Absolutely love it. Dragon Quest is my favorite RPG series. Actually, it's one of my favorite series period. --- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/kid_prodigy23 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 07/29/24 8:48:56 PM #29: |
Definitely prefer it to "action" RPG systems. I can't believe how awful and boring the combat in most of those is. We get so many great action games with amazing combat and then when ever anyone makes an "action" RPG it seems the combat must be mashing buttons mindlessly while a damage sponge slowly dies. Some great exceptions are whatever you call what the FFVII remake is doing, NieR Automata, and Dragon's Dogma. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FL81 07/29/24 8:54:44 PM #30: |
wishing for it to have a big revival --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif https://i.imgur.com/8mWCvA4.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shotgunnova 07/29/24 8:56:00 PM #31: |
Love turn-based stuff. When a series forsakes it for action-oriented stuff, my wallet clams up tight. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darkninja42 07/29/24 8:56:46 PM #32: |
I enjoy it, but there's gotta be an extra layer to it besides just choosing from a menu. Timing, positioning, something like that --- I'm far from high end, I just know what suits me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChrisTaka 07/29/24 8:57:59 PM #33: |
To me a good turn based game is just as enjoyable as a good action game BUT I tend to find that turn based games are good more often than action games --- ChrisTaka's not-alt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Voidgolem 07/29/24 8:59:42 PM #34: |
it can be interesting when done well but a lot of the time it's as barebones as the engine lets the dev get away with. It's been decades we -can- do better than FF7-lite. If we can't have interesting systems within that turn based combat (e.g. Press Turn, interesting effects, or the grandia action gauge), they can at least make the attacks and spells within that system look cool. Most don't --- Variable General Veeg, at your service ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 07/29/24 8:59:58 PM #35: |
FL81 posted... wishing for it to have a big revival Hope it has already started, what with Yakuza and BG3. Though Trails worries me, Falcom adding action gameplay along with the default turn based is just asking to drop one of them due to the extra work. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bsp77 07/29/24 9:01:08 PM #36: |
LightHawKnight posted... Hope it has already started, what with Yakuza and BG3. Though Trails worries me, Falcom adding action gameplay along with the default turn based is just asking to drop one of them due to the extra work.Yeah, I think there already is a revival --- Currently playing - Final Fantasy VII Rebirth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FL81 07/29/24 9:01:29 PM #37: |
LightHawKnight posted... Though Trails worries me, Falcom adding action gameplay along with the default turn based is just asking to drop one of them due to the extra work.oof I actually started getting into the Trails games just to scratch this itch --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif https://i.imgur.com/8mWCvA4.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Joelypoely 07/29/24 9:05:31 PM #38: |
BaphometFlux posted... I personally love turn based combat and I wish it was the default combat system in every RPG. Same. A couple of my favourites from the past few years are Across the Obelisk and Slice & Dice. --- https://philoetryblog.wordpress.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mad-Dogg 07/29/24 9:07:56 PM #39: |
bsp77 posted... Yeah, whenever developers can successfully mix action and commands together, I find it pretty slick.I cannot stress just how much I love the system for remake+rebirth, lol. Each character's ability has a specific purpose with each character having a role beyond just their limit breaks. Saving your ATBs and knowing when to build them for those stagger building. damage multiplying+meter stalling for those team combos just feels so good, lol. Like I can easily agree with those that say final fantasy 15's all action attempt was basic as hell and that FF16's comes off as a devil may cry-light, but they absolutely nailed it with remake+rebirth's hybrid system. I am totally fine with it if square-enix feels like they want to go with another more normal ATB turned based system for FF17, but I am very grateful to get what I didn't ask for (like many I just assumed FF7 remake would be a graphic touch up with everything else copy and pasted. God I am glad to be wrong) with remake+rebirth+the 3rd game. --- GTag:MadDogg730 PSN:lMadDogg NNID:xMadDoggx NS friend code:5313-0564-0819 Go buy cyber shadow like right now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 07/29/24 9:08:25 PM #40: |
FL81 posted... oof Its only the latest games, so you should fine for most of the games. Trails is real good. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YugiNoob 07/29/24 9:09:13 PM #41: |
I like it a lot since I can do other stuff like eat/drink or watch tv while playing. Plus Im not negatively affected if Im playing on a bumpy road or something. I think Hyperdimension Neptunia had my favorite gameplay. You could move and position characters during their turn, and their attacks had various ranges. --- ( ^_^)/\(^_^ ) Maya High-Five! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cruorin 07/29/24 9:09:24 PM #42: |
Action based system tend to inflict computer controlled party members. Too many mistakes there. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChrisTaka 07/29/24 9:10:03 PM #43: |
LightHawKnight posted... Hope it has already started, what with Yakuza and BG3. Though Trails worries me, Falcom adding action gameplay along with the default turn based is just asking to drop one of them due to the extra work. Falcom won't make Trails action because one, Ys exists, and two, the series is like 80 to 90% done according to Kondo, they wouldn't do that to the series this late in The action combat is very minimal, if they were to drop one, it wouldn't be the turn based combat --- ChrisTaka's not-alt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_____Cait 07/29/24 9:10:21 PM #44: |
If done right, it can add a lot of strategy. If done lazily, its boring. FFX, Lost Odyssey, and tactical games do it best --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 07/29/24 9:12:01 PM #45: |
ChrisTaka posted... Falcom won't make Trails action because one, Ys exists, and two, the series is like 80 to 90% done according to Kondo, they wouldn't do that to the series this late in The series being done is a sad option. We have only really played on one continent. If they have Ys, why even bother adding action to Trails in the first place? That just worries me if they ever continue past what will currently be the end. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tripleh213 07/29/24 9:12:16 PM #46: |
firedoom666 posted... I really enjoy it, it is a shame too many classic series gave up on it --- Bucks World Champions 2021 PS4 looks great ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 07/29/24 9:17:12 PM #47: |
LightHawKnight posted... Hope it has already started, what with Yakuza and BG3. Though Trails worries me, Falcom adding action gameplay along with the default turn based is just asking to drop one of them due to the extra work.The worry about the "action" combat in Trails through Daybreak replacing the turn based combat is very overblown. In the Cold Steel games, if you hit an enemy before the battle started, then you started the battle with an advantage. The new system is just an expansion of that. You have a basic combo that you can hit enemies with and if you hit them enough, you stun them and then start the turn based combat with the enemy stunned at first. It's not a fully realized combat system. --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198372263559/#sort=order ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kai_Laguna 07/29/24 9:20:45 PM #48: |
It's the superior combat system for rpgs. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Valigarmanda_ 07/29/24 10:21:13 PM #49: |
I hate the action prompts in turn based games that they've been trying to do (Sea of Stars is the first that comes to mind) - it was cute in Super Mario RPG but if I want an action game, I'll play an action game --- aka TritochZERO ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sayoria 07/29/24 10:25:41 PM #50: |
It was one of the few types of games I enjoyed. And it was so enjoyed by me that the lack of them killed my interest in games and I stopped buying video games. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr ... Copied to Clipboard!
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