Current Events > White House issues statement opposing gender-affirming surgery for minors.

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CyricZ 07/02/24 8:39:41 PM #1:	https://19thnews.org/2024/07/white-house-statement-gender-affirming-surgery-minors/ Note that this is very specifically surgery, not other forms of gender-affirming care. And yet this will affect the very small number of transgender minors (in the very low hundreds) who wish to get mastectomies prior to turning 18. Just why. --- CyricZ He/him http://twitch.tv/cyricz42 <cite>CyricZ posted [p:981124801] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>https://19thnews.org/2024/07/white-house-statement-gender-affirming-surgery-minors/Note that this is very specifically surgery, not other forms of gender-affirming care.And yet this will affect the very small number of transgender minors (in the very low hundreds) who wish to get mastectomies prior to turning 18.Just why. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robot2600 07/02/24 8:41:17 PM #2:	fucking why. --- April 15, 2024: The Day the Internet Died <cite>Robot2600 posted [p:981124832] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>fucking why. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 07/02/24 8:41:36 PM #3:	Seems like a political move. Most people seem to support kids transitioning, but Republicans make outlandish claims that doctors are cutting off 5 year old's members and other deplorable shit and literally nobody supports or does that, just like their post birth abortion shit. Also, I'm not seeing any actual news reporting this. Surely someone would cover this, right? --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:981124840] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>Seems like a political move. Most people seem to support kids transitioning, but Republicans make outlandish claims that doctors are cutting off 5 year old's members and other deplorable shit and literally nobody supports or does that, just like their post birth abortion shit. Also, I'm not seeing any actual news reporting this. Surely someone would cover this, right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/02/24 8:42:39 PM #4:	ClayGuida posted... Seems like a political move. 2023 elections demonstrated that trans issues are not on voters' minds on any side. --- CyricZ He/him http://twitch.tv/cyricz42 <cite>CyricZ posted [p:981124853] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>ClayGuida posted... </cite><quote>Seems like a political move.</quote>2023 elections demonstrated that trans issues are not on voters' minds on any side. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ItsNotA2Mer 07/02/24 8:44:05 PM #5:	What is even the fucking point of this? --- It is impossible to live in the past, difficult to live in the present, and a waste to live in the future. (He/Him). <cite>ItsNotA2Mer posted [p:981124886] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>What is even the fucking point of this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 07/02/24 8:44:19 PM #6:	Just think, they could have said nothing --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:981124889] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>Just think, they could have said nothing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 07/02/24 8:46:32 PM #7:	https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/25/health/transgender-minors-surgeries.html Health officials in the Biden administration pressed an international group of medical experts to remove age limits for adolescent surgeries from guidelines for care of transgender minors, according to newly unsealed court documents. Age minimums, officials feared, could fuel growing political opposition to such treatments. There you go. Fox pounced. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-officials-pushed-drop-age-limit-trans-surgeries-minors-report So yea, there's your reasons. --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:981124924] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/25/health/transgender-minors-surgeries.html<quote>Health officials in the Biden administration pressed an international group of medical experts to remove age limits for adolescent surgeries from guidelines for care of transgender minors, according to newly unsealed court documents.Age minimums, officials feared, could fuel growing political opposition to such treatments.</quote>There you go. Fox pounced. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-officials-pushed-drop-age-limit-trans-surgeries-minors-reportSo yea, there's your reasons. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GiftedACIII 07/02/24 8:50:16 PM #9:	It's imperative they must let people know they're not one of those darn far leftists --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:981124983] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>It's imperative they must let people know they're not one of those darn far leftists </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_Gear_Raxis 07/02/24 8:50:46 PM #10:	My understanding is that surgery is something that happens very late in the transitioning process. Now if they start saying the same for hormone treatment that'd be when it gets really fucked up. --- As the morning sun rises, my lingering memories fade. I no longer see your silhouette. It's too far gone into the haze. <cite>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted [p:981124996] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>My understanding is that surgery is something that happens very late in the transitioning process. Now if they start saying the same for hormone treatment that'd be when it gets really fucked up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BrohammedAli 07/02/24 8:50:47 PM #11:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Bigots. --- https://www.discogs.com/user/Nocoasts <cite>BrohammedAli posted [p:981124997] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Bigots. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BrohammedAli 07/02/24 8:53:07 PM #12:	Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... My understanding is that surgery is something that happens very late in the transitioning process. Now if they start saying the same for hormone treatment that'd be when it gets really fucked up. One of Trumps Day 1 action points is prohibiting any medicinal institution that receives government funding in any way (so, all of them) from providing gender affirming care for all age groups. --- https://www.discogs.com/user/Nocoasts <cite>BrohammedAli posted [p:981125029] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... </cite><quote>My understanding is that surgery is something that happens very late in the transitioning process. Now if they start saying the same for hormone treatment that'd be when it gets really fucked up.</quote>One of Trumps Day 1 action points is prohibiting any medicinal institution that receives government funding in any way (so, all of them) from providing gender affirming care for all age groups. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_Gear_Raxis 07/02/24 8:55:06 PM #13:	BrohammedAli posted... One of Trumps Day 1 action points is prohibiting any medicinal institution that receives government funding in any way (so, all of them) from providing gender affirming care for all age groups. Oh, 100%, but I'm talking about Biden's administration, not a potential Trump administration. --- As the morning sun rises, my lingering memories fade. I no longer see your silhouette. It's too far gone into the haze. <cite>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted [p:981125054] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>BrohammedAli posted... </cite><quote>One of Trumps Day 1 action points is prohibiting any medicinal institution that receives government funding in any way (so, all of them) from providing gender affirming care for all age groups.</quote>Oh, 100%, but I'm talking about Biden's administration, not a potential Trump administration. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BrohammedAli 07/02/24 8:56:12 PM #14:	Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... Oh, 100%, but I'm talking about Biden's administration, not a potential Trump administration. Yeah, Im just expressing the issue with your last comment. It is already fucked up. --- https://www.discogs.com/user/Nocoasts <cite>BrohammedAli posted [p:981125063] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... </cite><quote>Oh, 100%, but I'm talking about Biden's administration, not a potential Trump administration.</quote>Yeah, Im just expressing the issue with your last comment. It is already fucked up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChocoboMogALT 07/02/24 8:56:59 PM #15:	What about cis-women who want preventative mastectomies or cosmetic ones? --- "We live in a country Hasire.." ~ yosouf06 REVOLVER STAKE! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v717/ChocoboMog123/AltEisenRChocoboMog.png <cite>ChocoboMogALT posted [p:981125074] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>What about cis-women who want preventative mastectomies or cosmetic ones? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 07/02/24 8:58:01 PM #17:	What minors are receiving such surgery in the first place? Is this something that actually happens? --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:981125092] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>What minors are receiving such surgery in the first place? Is this something that actually happens? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BewmHedshot 07/02/24 8:58:41 PM #18:	CableZL posted... What minors are receiving such surgery in the first place? Extremely few, but right wing talking points don't have to be legitimate. <cite>BewmHedshot posted [p:981125100] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite><quote>What minors are receiving such surgery in the first place?</quote>Extremely few, but right wing talking points don't have to be legitimate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_Gear_Raxis 07/02/24 9:10:53 PM #19:	BewmHedshot posted... Extremely few, but right wing talking points don't have to be legitimate. Yeah, that's why it's weird the WH is weighing in on this in the first place. --- As the morning sun rises, my lingering memories fade. I no longer see your silhouette. It's too far gone into the haze. <cite>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted [p:981125273] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>BewmHedshot posted... </cite><quote>Extremely few, but right wing talking points don't have to be legitimate.</quote>Yeah, that's why it's weird the WH is weighing in on this in the first place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cartoon_Quoter 07/02/24 9:13:17 PM #20:	Let me guess, gynecomastia surgery is exempted. --- I apologize for nothing! <cite>Cartoon_Quoter posted [p:981125314] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>Let me guess, gynecomastia surgery is exempted. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 07/02/24 9:14:11 PM #21:	Democrats are really bad at PR. This isn't going to strike down a republican talking point or whatever, if anything it's going to strengthen it by acknowledging it. This is like when biden gave them what they wanted for the border and people claimed it would show just how hypocritical republicans are for opposing it. No, it's giving republicans what they want and they complain about it anyway because they can keep pushing to the right by always saying it's not good enough. Democrats have been playing into these games for decades now. They've got to be either grossly incompetent or doing it on purpose. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:981125326] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>Democrats are really bad at PR. This isn't going to strike down a republican talking point or whatever, if anything it's going to strengthen it by acknowledging it. This is like when biden gave them what they wanted for the border and people claimed it would show just how hypocritical republicans are for opposing it. No, it's giving republicans what they want and they complain about it anyway because they can keep pushing to the right by always saying it's not good enough.Democrats have been playing into these games for decades now. They've got to be either grossly incompetent or doing it on purpose. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 07/02/24 9:16:00 PM #22:	CyricZ posted... 2023 elections demonstrated that trans issues are not on voters' minds on any side. Dude, youre smarter than this. Right wing media has been using gender affirming surgeries for minors as a boogeyman lately. --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:981125357] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite><quote>2023 elections demonstrated that trans issues are not on voters' minds on any side.</quote>Dude, youre smarter than this. Right wing media has been using gender affirming surgeries for minors as a boogeyman lately. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Agent_Stroud 07/02/24 9:18:45 PM #25:	Really baffling decision, and I say that as a rightie since who exactly is this supposed to appeal to? Joe and his advisors should already know by now that most if not all of the right would gladly vote for the Devil himself if he happened to have an R by his name, and folks on the left arent the ones overly concerned about this last time I checked, so why even bother publicly announcing their position on this since it doesnt do anything other than potentially upset people who were already on their side to begin with? Seriously, make it make sense, someone. --- "We're going to shake things up, Morgan. Like old times." -- Alex Yu, Prey (2017) <cite>Agent_Stroud posted [p:981125397] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>Really baffling decision, and I say that as a rightie since who exactly is this supposed to appeal to?Joe and his advisors should already know by now that most if not all of the right would gladly vote for the Devil himself if he happened to have an R by his name, and folks on the left arent the ones overly concerned about this last time I checked, so why even bother publicly announcing their position on this since it doesnt do anything other than potentially upset people who were already on their side to begin with?Seriously, make it make sense, someone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/02/24 9:50:21 PM #26:	JuanCarlos1 posted... Dude, youre smarter than this. Right wing media has been using gender affirming surgeries for minors as a boogeyman lately. Dude I read on the results of the 2023 local elections. Polled voters had trans issues very low on their priorities. Candidates who ran on banning gender-affirming care lost. The media can fluff up the issue as much as they want, but the people do end up speaking and I would expect the White House to be paying attention to that. --- CyricZ He/him http://twitch.tv/cyricz42 <cite>CyricZ posted [p:981125810] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>JuanCarlos1 posted... </cite><quote>Dude, youre smarter than this. Right wing media has been using gender affirming surgeries for minors as a boogeyman lately.</quote>Dude I read on the results of the 2023 local elections. Polled voters had trans issues very low on their priorities. Candidates who ran on banning gender-affirming care lost.The media can fluff up the issue as much as they want, but the people do end up speaking and I would expect the White House to be paying attention to that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ooooooranges 07/02/24 10:03:46 PM #27:	This seems like a good thing and is in line with AAP recommendations. --- http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/2011/10/10/pujols_85507.jpg <cite>Ooooooranges posted [p:981125966] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>This seems like a good thing and is in line with AAP recommendations. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 07/03/24 1:25:43 AM #28:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] They sure didn't wait very long <cite>Zikten posted [p:981128052] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> They sure didn't wait very long</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/03/24 1:27:56 AM #29:	CyricZ posted... https://19thnews.org/2024/07/white-house-statement-gender-affirming-surgery-minors/ Note that this is very specifically surgery, not other forms of gender-affirming care. And yet this will affect the very small number of transgender minors (in the very low hundreds) who wish to get mastectomies prior to turning 18. Just why. Why is a mastectomy considered gender affirming? Plenty of cis women get them. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:981128067] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite><quote>https://19thnews.org/2024/07/white-house-statement-gender-affirming-surgery-minors/Note that this is very specifically surgery, not other forms of gender-affirming care.And yet this will affect the very small number of transgender minors (in the very low hundreds) who wish to get mastectomies prior to turning 18.Just why.</quote>Why is a mastectomy considered gender affirming? Plenty of cis women get them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/03/24 8:52:17 AM #30:	Ooooooranges posted... in line with AAP recommendations. Immaterial. Those are recommendations, not rules, and much like many other medical procedures and decisions between doctor and patient, there is no need for the government to intercede on this. --- CyricZ He/him http://twitch.tv/cyricz42 <cite>CyricZ posted [p:981130397] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>Ooooooranges posted... </cite><quote>in line with AAP recommendations.</quote>Immaterial. Those are recommendations, not rules, and much like many other medical procedures and decisions between doctor and patient, there is no need for the government to intercede on this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 07/03/24 8:59:39 AM #31:	Tyranthraxus posted... Why is a mastectomy considered gender affirming? Plenty of cis women get them. It can be gender affirming, no? Sometimes it is performed for other reasons. Same goes for puberty blockers. They are also used to treat precocious puberty and cancer. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. <cite>ai123 posted [p:981130464] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Why is a mastectomy considered gender affirming? Plenty of cis women get them.</quote>It can be gender affirming, no? Sometimes it is performed for other reasons.Same goes for puberty blockers. They are also used to treat precocious puberty and cancer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corbenik 07/03/24 10:20:13 AM #33:	They must be scared of losing. SMH, man why are they such cowards. --- The power it holds can bring either salvation or destruction at the whim of the user - Aura <cite>Corbenik posted [p:981131236] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>They must be scared of losing. SMH, man why are they such cowards. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlazingFireFist 07/03/24 10:30:30 AM #34:	B-but Joe Rogan and one detransitioner Chloe Cole said doctors/hospitals are doing this to every child that experiences issues during puberty!!! <cite>BlazingFireFist posted [p:981131340] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>B-but Joe Rogan and one detransitioner Chloe Cole said doctors/hospitals are doing this to every child that experiences issues during puberty!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem-man 07/03/24 10:41:03 AM #35:	The Biden administration said this week that it opposed gender-affirming surgery for minors, the most explicit statement to date on the subject from a president who has been a staunch supporter of transgender rights. The White House announcement was sent to The New York Times on Wednesday in response to an article reporting that staff in the office of Adm. Rachel Levine, an assistant secretary at the Department of Health and Human Services, had urged an influential international transgender health organization to remove age minimums for surgery from its treatment guidelines for minors. The draft guidelines would have lowered the age minimums to 14 for hormonal treatments, 15 for mastectomies, 16 for breast augmentation or facial surgeries, and 17 for genital surgeries or hysterectomies. The final guidelines, released in 2022, removed the age-based recommendations altogether. Adm. Levine shared her view with her staff that publishing the proposed lower ages for gender transition surgeries was not supported by science or research, and could lead to an onslaught of attacks on the transgender community, an H.H.S. spokesman said in a statement on Friday evening. Federal officials did not elaborate further on the administrations position regarding the scientific research or on Adm. Levines role in having the age minimums removed. The administration, which has been supportive of gender-affirming care for transgender youth, expressed opposition only to surgeries for minors, not other treatments. The procedures are usually irreversible, critics have said. The Biden administrations previous statements on gender-affirming care for minors have not in the past explicitly opposed surgery. A two-page explainer on gender-affirming care that is frequently cited by federal officials stated that gender-affirming surgeries were typically used in adulthood or case-by-case in adolescence, leaving the door open to surgery for minors in some instances. I'm kind of confused. Doesn't them removing minimum age recommendations make it so there's no age limit? Or is the idea that no lower age minimum implies an recommendation of 18? --- Biden-Harris 2024 https://imgur.com/gallery/o47SI9Y <cite>emblem-man posted [p:981131459] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote><quote>The Biden administration said this week that it opposed gender-affirming surgery for minors, the most explicit statement to date on the subject from a president who has been a staunch supporter of transgender rights.The White House announcement was sent to The New York Times on Wednesday in response to an article reporting that staff in the office of Adm. Rachel Levine, an assistant secretary at the Department of Health and Human Services, had urged an influential international transgender health organization to remove age minimums for surgery from its treatment guidelines for minors.The draft guidelines would have lowered the age minimums to 14 for hormonal treatments, 15 for mastectomies, 16 for breast augmentation or facial surgeries, and 17 for genital surgeries or hysterectomies. The final guidelines, released in 2022, removed the age-based recommendations altogether.Adm. Levine shared her view with her staff that publishing the proposed lower ages for gender transition surgeries was not supported by science or research, and could lead to an onslaught of attacks on the transgender community, an H.H.S. spokesman said in a statement on Friday evening.</quote><quote>Federal officials did not elaborate further on the administrations position regarding the scientific research or on Adm. Levines role in having the age minimums removed.The administration, which has been supportive of gender-affirming care for transgender youth, expressed opposition only to surgeries for minors, not other treatments. The procedures are usually irreversible, critics have said.</quote><quote>The Biden administrations previous statements on gender-affirming care for minors have not in the past explicitly opposed surgery.A two-page explainer on gender-affirming care that is frequently cited by federal officials stated that gender-affirming surgeries were typically used in adulthood or case-by-case in adolescence, leaving the door open to surgery for minors in some instances.</quote>I'm kind of confused. Doesn't them removing minimum age recommendations make it so there's no age limit? Or is the idea that no lower age minimum implies an recommendation of 18? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Euripides 07/03/24 11:24:03 AM #36:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Fuck off with your gimmicky bullshit posts. There is nothing funny about this and you should be ashamed of yourself --- he/him/his <cite>Euripides posted [p:981131975] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Fuck off with your gimmicky bullshit posts. There is nothing funny about this and you should be ashamed of yourself </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Euripides 07/03/24 11:25:12 AM #37:	Tyranthraxus posted... Why is a mastectomy considered gender affirming? Plenty of cis women get them. That's where this won't hold up in court. Your either allow doctor-informed mastectomies for minors or you don't, regardless of the reason --- he/him/his <cite>Euripides posted [p:981131984] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Why is a mastectomy considered gender affirming? Plenty of cis women get them.</quote>That's where this won't hold up in court. Your either allow doctor-informed mastectomies for minors or you don't, regardless of the reason </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/03/24 11:34:08 AM #38:	Euripides posted... That's where this won't hold up in court. Your either allow doctor-informed mastectomies for minors or you don't, regardless of the reason The white house issuing a statement of opinion doesn't have any legal weight in the first place, nor do any published guidelines. They're guidelines not laws. You don't get punished for not following them. It's obviously a calculated political move to win over some dumbass undecided bloc who thinks Biden wants to mutilate every baby's genitals. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:981132087] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>Euripides posted... </cite><quote>That's where this won't hold up in court. Your either allow doctor-informed mastectomies for minors or you don't, regardless of the reason</quote>The white house issuing a statement of opinion doesn't have any legal weight in the first place, nor do any published guidelines. They're guidelines not laws. You don't get punished for not following them. It's obviously a calculated political move to win over some dumbass undecided bloc who thinks Biden wants to mutilate every baby's genitals. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 07/03/24 11:39:37 AM #39:	JuanCarlos1 posted... Dude, youre smarter than this. Right wing media has been using gender affirming surgeries for minors as a boogeyman lately. They've actually backed way off after their efforts to demonize the transgender community proved to be non-issues in the '22 and '23 elections. Their new focuses are immigration, inflation, and Biden's age. <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:981132171] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>JuanCarlos1 posted... </cite><quote>Dude, youre smarter than this. Right wing media has been using gender affirming surgeries for minors as a boogeyman lately.</quote>They've actually backed way off after their efforts to demonize the transgender community proved to be non-issues in the '22 and '23 elections. Their new focuses are immigration, inflation, and Biden's age.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Euripides 07/03/24 11:41:11 AM #40:	darkace77450 posted... They've actually backed way off after their efforts to demonize the transgender community proved to be non-issues in the '22 and '23 elections. Their new focuses are immigration, inflation, and Biden's age. Who is "they"? Trump has said out loud that he's going hard after trans people and gender-affirming care on day one --- he/him/his <cite>Euripides posted [p:981132191] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>darkace77450 posted... </cite><quote>They've actually backed way off after their efforts to demonize the transgender community proved to be non-issues in the '22 and '23 elections. Their new focuses are immigration, inflation, and Biden's age.</quote>Who is "they"? Trump has said out loud that he's going hard after trans people and gender-affirming care on day one </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 07/03/24 11:55:40 AM #41:	Euripides posted... Who is "they"? Trump has said out loud that he's going hard after trans people and gender-affirming care on day one They is the right wing media. In the past two election cycles, they were running an anti-LGBT story once an hour every hour 'round the clock. That isn't the case anymore as they finally realized voters are more concerned about the economy, national security, and abortion than they are drag queen story hour (their conflation, not mine). <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:981132358] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>Euripides posted... </cite><quote>Who is "they"? Trump has said out loud that he's going hard after trans people and gender-affirming care on day one</quote>They is the right wing media. In the past two election cycles, they were running an anti-LGBT story once an hour every hour 'round the clock. That isn't the case anymore as they finally realized voters are more concerned about the economy, national security, and abortion than they are drag queen story hour (their conflation, not mine).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 07/03/24 12:23:29 PM #42:	emblem-man posted... I'm kind of confused. Doesn't them removing minimum age recommendations make it so there's no age limit? Or is the idea that no lower age minimum implies an recommendation of 18? Your last bolded paragraph answers your own question. If Republicans see anything about trans kids and treatment mentioned, let alone any surgical guidelines, no matter how well considered or credible or science based or sane they might be... Republicans are likely to start calling in bomb threats to hospitals (again) or worse, endangering trans kids and health care workers. Asking the group remove those guidelines was an effort to prevent hate crimes that would be nigh-inevitable if they got published. (And now, in a nuanced and measured explanation, as Biden and the left do, they're getting attacked as being unsupportive of trans people as a result because no one's doing a deep read and media literacy is shit these days. As usual.) --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:981132701] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>emblem-man posted... </cite><quote>I'm kind of confused. Doesn't them removing minimum age recommendations make it so there's no age limit? Or is the idea that no lower age minimum implies an recommendation of 18?</quote>Your last bolded paragraph answers your own question.If Republicans see anything about trans kids and treatment mentioned, let alone any surgical guidelines, no matter how well considered or credible or science based or sane they might be... Republicans are likely to start calling in bomb threats to hospitals (again) or worse, endangering trans kids and health care workers.Asking the group remove those guidelines was an effort to prevent hate crimes that would be nigh-inevitable if they got published.(And now, in a nuanced and measured explanation, as Biden and the left do, they're getting attacked as being unsupportive of trans people as a result because no one's doing a deep read and media literacy is shit these days. As usual.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/03/24 2:42:33 PM #43:	Anyone who says "we shouldn't do this because of the hate crimes that would be committed" is clearly in a hostage situation and we need to check on if they're safe. --- CyricZ He/him http://twitch.tv/cyricz42 <cite>CyricZ posted [p:981134557] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>Anyone who says "we shouldn't do this because of the hate crimes that would be committed" is clearly in a hostage situation and we need to check on if they're safe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gritty 07/03/24 2:43:26 PM #44:	For some reason, I read that as gerrymandering surgeries <cite>Gritty posted [p:981134563] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>For some reason, I read that as gerrymandering surgeries</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 07/03/24 3:17:26 PM #45:	Republicans getting their fascist christmas early and Democrats as usual, are all aboard. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:981134954] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>Republicans getting their fascist christmas early and Democrats as usual, are all aboard. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 07/04/24 7:12:05 PM #46:	Dont criticize the president guys, Trump might win if you do! --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:981152595] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>Dont criticize the president guys, Trump might win if you do! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 07/07/24 12:18:02 AM #48:	refmon posted... Dont criticize the president guys, Trump might win if you do! Nobody says this. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:981185156] in White Hous... [t:80802315]...</cite> <quote>refmon posted... </cite><quote>Dont criticize the president guys, Trump might win if you do!</quote>Nobody says this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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