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saspa 07/01/24 8:42:47 AM #1:	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9f/The_New_52.jpg This was the cover of the first issue apparently. That sinister portrait of Superman in shadow is a pretty aptly prophetic image of things to come especially after zack snyder got his mittens on the character and tried to poorly emulate Nolan while missing the point (not to mention all the story beats) --- http://i.imgur.com/0UFI0T9.jpg <cite>saspa posted [p:981100419] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9f/The_New_52.jpgThis was the cover of the first issue apparently. That sinister portrait of Superman in shadow is a pretty aptly prophetic image of things to come especially after zack snyder got his mittens on the character and tried to poorly emulate Nolan while missing the point (not to mention all the story beats) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tanthalas 07/01/24 8:56:13 AM #2:	Is that supposed to be a redneck Superman or something? --- Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage". <cite>Tanthalas posted [p:981100515] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>Is that supposed to be a redneck Superman or something? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon 07/01/24 8:58:49 AM #3:	Tanthalas posted... Is that supposed to be a redneck Superman or something? No, the New 52 was an almost company wide reboot for DC. Action Comics at the time was set at the start of Superman's career. He wasn't as powerful nor did he have an actual costume at the time. <cite>TheSavageDragon posted [p:981100535] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>Tanthalas posted... </cite><quote>Is that supposed to be a redneck Superman or something?</quote>No, the New 52 was an almost company wide reboot for DC. Action Comics at the time was set at the start of Superman's career. He wasn't as powerful nor did he have an actual costume at the time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PeteyParker 07/01/24 9:04:30 AM #4:	Tanthalas posted... Is that supposed to be a redneck Superman or something? Grant Morrison was on Action Comics at the beginning of the New 52. He attempted to take Superman back to original 1938 version. His Superman couldn't fly and was pretty much how he was back then including being more focused on stopping more mundane threats. It didn't last very long and honestly the new 52 Superman sucks in general (not so much because of this but everything else that was done with him) and it was a blessing when they brought back the "true" Superman (even if the storyline to make it happen is ridiculous) --- "How can.. the Prime minister.. support a law.. that makes it illegal for people.. who....What I'm trying to say is.. Oasis rules!" <cite>PeteyParker posted [p:981100581] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>Tanthalas posted... </cite><quote>Is that supposed to be a redneck Superman or something?</quote>Grant Morrison was on Action Comics at the beginning of the New 52. He attempted to take Superman back to original 1938 version. His Superman couldn't fly and was pretty much how he was back then including being more focused on stopping more mundane threats. It didn't last very long and honestly the new 52 Superman sucks in general (not so much because of this but everything else that was done with him) and it was a blessing when they brought back the "true" Superman (even if the storyline to make it happen is ridiculous) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 07/01/24 10:13:36 AM #5:	There were a couple good titles out of New 52. Not many, though. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:981101221] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>There were a couple good titles out of New 52.Not many, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saspa 07/02/24 10:51:28 AM #6:	DnDer posted... There were a couple good titles out of New 52. Not many, though. Batgirl? --- http://i.imgur.com/0UFI0T9.jpg <cite>saspa posted [p:981116415] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted...</cite><quote>There were a couple good titles out of New 52.Not many, though.</quote>Batgirl? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon 07/02/24 11:00:49 AM #7:	saspa posted... Batgirl? Batgirl was "meh". It wasn't terrible or anything but it will always be covered with the stink of Barbara regressing to a role she outgrew ages ago. For me the best New 52 had to offer were Animal Man, Dial H, Azarello's Wonder Woman and Remire's Green Arrow. Though there are likely a few I enjoyed that I'm forgetting at this point. <cite>TheSavageDragon posted [p:981116516] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>saspa posted... </cite><quote>Batgirl?</quote>Batgirl was "meh". It wasn't terrible or anything but it will always be covered with the stink of Barbara regressing to a role she outgrew ages ago. For me the best New 52 had to offer were Animal Man, Dial H, Azarello's Wonder Woman and Remire's Green Arrow. Though there are likely a few I enjoyed that I'm forgetting at this point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFTHEWINNER 07/02/24 11:02:42 AM #8:	I hate reboots in general, and I definitely didn't like this one. --- WHO AM I?FFTHEWINNER. WHO ARE YOU?URTHELOSER http://i.imgur.com/xgSex.png <cite>FFTHEWINNER posted [p:981116542] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>I hate reboots in general, and I definitely didn't like this one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 07/02/24 11:15:38 AM #9:	saspa posted... Batgirl? I was a fan of Swamp Thing and Phantom Stranger. But hearing Azarello did a run on Wonder Woman (I wasn't paying attention to the Big Three, really), I may have to go pick it up. I think there were a couple GL issues that interested me... but not enough to do more than flip through. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:981116685] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>saspa posted... </cite><quote>Batgirl?</quote>I was a fan of Swamp Thing and Phantom Stranger.But hearing Azarello did a run on Wonder Woman (I wasn't paying attention to the Big Three, really), I may have to go pick it up.I think there were a couple GL issues that interested me... but not enough to do more than flip through. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon 07/02/24 11:25:47 AM #10:	DnDer posted... I was a fan of Swamp Thing and Phantom Stranger. See, I knew I was forgetting something. Swamp Thing was great and I love how it tied into Animal Man. DnDer posted... But hearing Azarello did a run on Wonder Woman (I wasn't paying attention to the Big Three, really), I may have to go pick it up. It focuses more heavily on Diana's connection to the Greek Pantheon. Was during the time she wasn't made of clay, but a straight up daughter of Zeus. I mostly loved it for the depictions of the Greek gods. Like Ares being a tired old man due to never ending wars. And I absolutely adore the depiction of Hades https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/46f7ba63.jpg DnDer posted... I think there were a couple GL issues that interested me... but not enough to do more than flip through. The GL books were decent as well, but mostly due to them still finishing up the storylines Geoff Johns set up before the reboot. <cite>TheSavageDragon posted [p:981116821] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>I was a fan of Swamp Thing and Phantom Stranger.</quote>See, I knew I was forgetting something. Swamp Thing was great and I love how it tied into Animal Man.DnDer posted... </cite><quote>But hearing Azarello did a run on Wonder Woman (I wasn't paying attention to the Big Three, really), I may have to go pick it up.</quote>It focuses more heavily on Diana's connection to the Greek Pantheon. Was during the time she wasn't made of clay, but a straight up daughter of Zeus. I mostly loved it for the depictions of the Greek gods. Like Ares being a tired old man due to never ending wars. And I absolutely adore the depiction of Hadeshttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/46f7ba63.jpgDnDer posted... </cite><quote>I think there were a couple GL issues that interested me... but not enough to do more than flip through.</quote>The GL books were decent as well, but mostly due to them still finishing up the storylines Geoff Johns set up before the reboot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saspa 07/02/24 11:51:36 AM #11:	Yeah I've noticed Swamp Thing is a cult fan favorite around the internet the past decade or so, but haven't really found out what people like about him or his stories specifically. Something about them being noir? --- http://i.imgur.com/0UFI0T9.jpg <cite>saspa posted [p:981117154] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I've noticed Swamp Thing is a cult fan favorite around the internet the past decade or so, but haven't really found out what people like about him or his stories specifically. Something about them being noir? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon 07/02/24 11:56:11 AM #12:	saspa posted... Yeah I've noticed Swamp Thing is a cult fan favorite around the internet the past decade or so, but haven't really found out what people like about him or his stories specifically. Something about them being noir? Haven't read much Swamp Thing myself beyond the New 52 run, but my guess is that the popularity primarily came from Alan Moore's run along with the fact that it was pretty much the catalyst for DC's Vertigo imprint which featured more mature books compared to the regular superhero antics of the main line. <cite>TheSavageDragon posted [p:981117228] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>saspa posted... </cite><quote>Yeah I've noticed Swamp Thing is a cult fan favorite around the internet the past decade or so, but haven't really found out what people like about him or his stories specifically. Something about them being noir?</quote>Haven't read much Swamp Thing myself beyond the New 52 run, but my guess is that the popularity primarily came from Alan Moore's run along with the fact that it was pretty much the catalyst for DC's Vertigo imprint which featured more mature books compared to the regular superhero antics of the main line.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PeteyParker 07/02/24 1:04:23 PM #13:	Some of the best New 52 titles were the ones that sold extremely poorly that went back to how DC used to be until the 80's with the different genre titles. I, Vampire and All-Star Western were my favorite things out of the New 52 and both didn't sell very well (both of which could have been done without rebooting everything as well). --- "How can.. the Prime minister.. support a law.. that makes it illegal for people.. who....What I'm trying to say is.. Oasis rules!" <cite>PeteyParker posted [p:981118165] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>Some of the best New 52 titles were the ones that sold extremely poorly that went back to how DC used to be until the 80's with the different genre titles. I, Vampire and All-Star Western were my favorite things out of the New 52 and both didn't sell very well (both of which could have been done without rebooting everything as well). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 07/02/24 1:05:59 PM #14:	"Evil Superman" had already been done 10 times before the New 52, this really isn't anything special. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:981118187] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>"Evil Superman" had already been done 10 times before the New 52, this really isn't anything special. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DaxNovalis 07/02/24 1:22:39 PM #16:	Garioshi posted... "Evil Superman" had already been done 10 times before the New 52, this really isn't anything special. And neither was this type of cover. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d5254d4d.jpg <cite>DaxNovalis posted [p:981118404] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>Garioshi posted... </cite><quote>"Evil Superman" had already been done 10 times before the New 52, this really isn't anything special.</quote>And neither was this type of cover.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d5254d4d.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tommybel89 07/02/24 1:23:24 PM #18:	Action Comics by Grant Morrison was pretty damn good. The main Superman book and the latter part of Action Comics got close. Then they both stepped up when the DC Rebirth era started. --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 <cite>tommybel89 posted [p:981118417] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>Action Comics by Grant Morrison was pretty damn good. The main Superman book and the latter part of Action Comics got close. Then they both stepped up when the DC Rebirth era started. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 07/02/24 1:27:47 PM #19:	Tanthalas posted... Is that supposed to be a redneck Superman or something? Well Clark is a simple farm boy. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:981118481] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>Tanthalas posted... </cite><quote>Is that supposed to be a redneck Superman or something?</quote>Well Clark is a simple farm boy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tommybel89 07/02/24 2:07:46 PM #20:	It's an early career tale. He didn't quite have the outfit down yet. --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 <cite>tommybel89 posted [p:981119064] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>It's an early career tale. He didn't quite have the outfit down yet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PeteyParker 07/02/24 2:17:39 PM #21:	DaxNovalis posted... And neither was this type of cover. ~~That's not Superman though~~ --- "How can.. the Prime minister.. support a law.. that makes it illegal for people.. who....What I'm trying to say is.. Oasis rules!" <cite>PeteyParker posted [p:981119223] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>DaxNovalis posted... </cite><quote>And neither was this type of cover.</quote>That's not Superman though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gray_Areas 07/02/24 2:27:48 PM #22:	That's from the earlier arcs of New 52 Action Comics about a Superman who hadn't really settled into the role yet. Whatever you think of the cover art, Grant Morrison's run is great and one of the best New 52 stories in my opinion. <cite>Gray_Areas posted [p:981119376] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>That's from the earlier arcs of New 52 Action Comics about a Superman who hadn't really settled into the role yet. Whatever you think of the cover art, Grant Morrison's run is great and one of the best New 52 stories in my opinion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 07/02/24 9:44:40 PM #23:	saspa posted... Yeah I've noticed Swamp Thing is a cult fan favorite around the internet the past decade or so, but haven't really found out what people like about him or his stories specifically. Something about them being noir? My love for Swamp Thing came out of being exposed to Vertigo. But, I was honestly pleased how not-bad the non-Vertigo one was for New 52. Except that last couple... Future's End or something? With The Metal? I barely remember it except, "Now this is silly, because that can't possibly be an Elemental force. The Grey was really pushing it, but it somehow worked. This? This is sharks and jumping territory." What an awful wrap on N52 Swampy. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:981125741] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>saspa posted... </cite><quote>Yeah I've noticed Swamp Thing is a cult fan favorite around the internet the past decade or so, but haven't really found out what people like about him or his stories specifically. Something about them being noir?</quote>My love for Swamp Thing came out of being exposed to Vertigo. But, I was honestly pleased how not-bad the non-Vertigo one was for New 52.Except that last couple... Future's End or something? With The Metal? I barely remember it except, "Now this is silly, because that can't possibly be an Elemental force. The Grey was really pushing it, but it somehow worked. This? This is sharks and jumping territory."What an awful wrap on N52 Swampy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tommybel89 07/03/24 8:21:21 AM #24:	Never read to the end of N52 Swamp Thing, but Futures End was an event where things went to hell 5 years from the present. There would have been a 1 shot issue of Swamp Thing of that alternate future, and it just expands on the Futures End series which was a weekly book for like 48 or 50 issues. --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 <cite>tommybel89 posted [p:981130201] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>Never read to the end of N52 Swamp Thing, but Futures End was an event where things went to hell 5 years from the present. There would have been a 1 shot issue of Swamp Thing of that alternate future, and it just expands on the Futures End series which was a weekly book for like 48 or 50 issues. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DaxNovalis 07/03/24 8:49:48 AM #25:	PeteyParker posted... ~~That's not Superman though~~ True, but no one would know that just looking at the cover. <cite>DaxNovalis posted [p:981130374] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>PeteyParker posted... </cite><quote>That's not Superman though</quote>True, but no one would know that just looking at the cover.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 07/03/24 11:02:58 AM #26:	tommybel89 posted... Never read to the end of N52 Swamp Thing, but Futures End was an event where things went to hell 5 years from the present. There would have been a 1 shot issue of Swamp Thing of that alternate future, and it just expands on the Futures End series which was a weekly book for like 48 or 50 issues. Maybe that's why. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:981131718] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>tommybel89 posted... </cite><quote>Never read to the end of N52 Swamp Thing, but Futures End was an event where things went to hell 5 years from the present. There would have been a 1 shot issue of Swamp Thing of that alternate future, and it just expands on the Futures End series which was a weekly book for like 48 or 50 issues.</quote>Maybe that's why. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/03/24 11:12:11 AM #27:	One of the first things DC did after Crisis on Earth One/Two was make Evil-everyone https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/236125b9.jpg --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:981131829] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>One of the first things DC did after Crisis on Earth One/Two was make Evil-everyone https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/236125b9.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saspa 07/05/24 4:37:54 PM #28:	Tyranthraxus posted... One of the first things DC did after Crisis on Earth One/Two was make Evil-everyone https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/236125b9.jpg This just makes me think DC really likes having their villain with a streak of white in their hair. Ras Al Ghul, Jason Hood, and now Superwoman? --- http://i.imgur.com/0UFI0T9.jpg <cite>saspa posted [p:981163843] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite><quote>One of the first things DC did after Crisis on Earth One/Two was make Evil-everyone https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/236125b9.jpg</quote>This just makes me think DC really likes having their villain with a streak of white in their hair. Ras Al Ghul, Jason Hood, and now Superwoman? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon 07/05/24 4:43:14 PM #29:	saspa posted... This just makes me think DC really likes having their villain with a streak of white in their hair. Ras Al Ghul, Jason Hood, and now Superwoman? AFAIK Jason Todd was never shown with a white streak in his hair. The image you're thinking of is from Hush ~~and that's Clayface hired by Hush to pose as an older, still alive Jason.~~ It's where they got the idea of bringing him back as Red Hood from due to the fan response to that moment. Every single comic I've read featuring Jason since his return had him with a full head of black hair, save for that period as a redhead when Dick was Batman. EDIT: Oh and IIRC he did have the white streak in the more recent Batman TAS comics as well. <cite>TheSavageDragon posted [p:981163908] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>saspa posted... </cite><quote>This just makes me think DC really likes having their villain with a streak of white in their hair. Ras Al Ghul, Jason Hood, and now Superwoman?</quote>AFAIK Jason Todd was never shown with a white streak in his hair. The image you're thinking of is from Hush and that's Clayface hired by Hush to pose as an older, still alive Jason. It's where they got the idea of bringing him back as Red Hood from due to the fan response to that moment. Every single comic I've read featuring Jason since his return had him with a full head of black hair, save for that period as a redhead when Dick was Batman.EDIT: Oh and IIRC he did have the white streak in the more recent Batman TAS comics as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saspa 07/06/24 1:16:23 AM #30:	TheSavageDragon posted... AFAIK Jason Todd was never shown with a white streak in his hair. The image you're thinking of is from Hush ~~and that's Clayface hired by Hush to pose as an older, still alive Jason.~~ It's where they got the idea of bringing him back as Red Hood from due to the fan response to that moment. Every single comic I've read featuring Jason since his return had him with a full head of black hair, save for that period as a redhead when Dick was Batman. EDIT: Oh and IIRC he did have the white streak in the more recent Batman TAS comics as well. That must be what I was thinking of because I've been reading the Batman adventure sequel comics the past year. I was like "why does he look like ras al ghul" and thought they were gonna do a similar story to what Young Justice season 3 was setting up, but nope they went in a completely different (and rather meh unfortunately) direction. --- http://i.imgur.com/0UFI0T9.jpg <cite>saspa posted [p:981170402] in We... shou... [t:80801264]...</cite> <quote>TheSavageDragon posted...</cite><quote>AFAIK Jason Todd was never shown with a white streak in his hair. The image you're thinking of is from Hush and that's Clayface hired by Hush to pose as an older, still alive Jason. It's where they got the idea of bringing him back as Red Hood from due to the fan response to that moment. Every single comic I've read featuring Jason since his return had him with a full head of black hair, save for that period as a redhead when Dick was Batman.EDIT: Oh and IIRC he did have the white streak in the more recent Batman TAS comics as well.</quote>That must be what I was thinking of because I've been reading the Batman adventure sequel comics the past year. I was like "why does he look like ras al ghul" and thought they were gonna do a similar story to what Young Justice season 3 was setting up, but nope they went in a completely different (and rather meh unfortunately) direction. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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