Board 8 > Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree

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Why fat roll? Feels like you should have enough points to spec heavy into endurance if you're using a character that completed main game

Also +3 Fire Res gets a lot of mileage overall in the DLC

I think I had that on for most of the DLC after I realized I was basically always fighting against fire

I will say if you are annoyed by the lack of healing windows with that boss...

Well, get ready for far worse

UltimaterializerX posted...

TBF I am using a fat roll tank build. I'm sure with dex he's a joke.

You can see my post earlier about it, but he gives you time for charged R2s on a Colossal weapon.

Looking back, curious what order others fought the main bosses in (aside from the final one, of course). For me:

1. Divine Beast Dancing Lion
2. Rellana, Twin Moon Knight
3. Putrescent Knight
4. Scadutree Avatar
5. Messmer The Impaler
6. Midra, Lord Of Frenzied Flame
7. Commander Gaius
8. Metyr, Mother Of Fingers
9. Bayle The Dread
10. Romina, Saint Of The Bud

1. Divine Beast Dancing Lion (With Blasphemous Blade special build) - Defeated on 3rd Attempt
2. Rellana, Twin Moon Knight (With Blasphemous Blade special build) - Defeated on 5th Attempt
3. Scadutree Avatar (Switched to Ancient Meteoric Ore Greatsword build and spec to try something new. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise, this sword is just total ass for bosses.) - Defeated after 50 minutes of attempts.
4. Messmer The Impaler (With Ancient Meteoric Ore shit Greatsword) - Defeated after 2 and a half hours of attempts
5. Putrescent Knight (Switched to Rock Heart Dragon Maw / Breath build) - Defeated on 7th Attempt
6. Metyr, Mother Of Fingers (Rock Heart Dragon Build) - Defeated on 1st Attempt
7. Midra, Lord Of Frenzied Flame (Rock Heart Dragon Build) - Defeated on 1st Attempt
8. Commander Gaius (Rock Heart Dragon Build) - Defeated on 3rd Attempt
9. Bayle The Dread (Rock Heart Dragon Build) - Defeated on 5th Attempt
10. Romina, Saint Of The Bud - (Rock Heart Dragon Build) - Defeated on 3rd Attempt

(As you can see, while I love the special of Ancient Meteoric Ore Greatsword, holy fuck was this thing holding me back.)

Is there a point to having an Arcane stat that high in a build like that, if anything those points would be better in Faith at the very least if you're using the Golden Halberd right

Bane_Of_Despair posted...

Is there a point to having an Arcane stat that high in a build like that, if anything those points would be better in Faith at the very least if you're using the Golden Halberd right

This, I'm not seeing why your Arc would need to be so high. Drop that and crank Faith to get more damage out of the halberd.

I feel like the mentality that using a tool openly available to you in the game is "cheating" is silly and holding you back tbqh.

Am I cheating because I use Giant Hunt on my Great Katana and outrange damn near everything? Nah.

The only way to cheat in Elden Ring is to take advantage of a glitch of some kind.

Fire Giant instant death was cheating. Things like that.

If it's a tool the game gives you legitimately, it is not cheating.

Yeah if you boost Faith you could just use the Blasphemous Blade instead

They nerfed it and yet it's still so broken

(By which I mean Blasphemous Blade instead of Rivers of Blood as a fallback weapon)

UltimaterializerX posted...

The northwest part of the map with the red forest. Is it possible to get there?

If I recall correctly you need to follow the river to get into that area

UltimaterializerX posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f52496f3.jpg

I also cant figure out how to get on that bridge. Do I kill the boss first?

Shortly before you go into the bug area that leads to the boss area, there's an area you can jump down onto with stone pillars/beams. If you follow those around they'll take you to another elevator.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

Oh never mind you can just walk out. Whew. I have more exploring to do.

Whenever you get warped one way the game makes you sit at a grace. It's even a different message saying as much if you try. Always been that way to prevent soft lock potential.

UltimaterializerX posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/0595654d.jpg

Does anyone know what this face is? Second or third time Ive seen it.

Godwyn's deathblight face

foolm0r0n posted...

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At least you have the option.

I'm really considering respeccing into Bloodfiend's Arm for the final boss. I've never been both stuck and not having fun on the grind.

Like I probably have spent far less time so far than I did on my first Malenia kill but I was having fun with that. But also I'm using the Anvil Hammer instead of dual katanas so I dunno.

I used Anvil Hammer for the final boss and thought it worked pretty well (switched to it from Blasphemous Blade because I read that the final boss resists slash)

You definitely need a lot of defense going in though.

My talismans were Crimson Seed +1, Erdtree's Favor +2, Dragoncrest Greatshield, Golden Braid. Before the fight I used Golden Vow and Physick with Opaline Hardtear + Opaline Bubbletear (to allow you to tank a hit when you summon at the beginning).

I typically don't spirit ash, but it's also less drastic than intentionally going with something I know is broken, so maybe I will. I also probably spent too much time trying to parry instead when I suck at it.

I did summon Ansbach a few times but that doubles his HP. I also tried Thollier and both of them together actually kinda rock, but he's literally only walked through the fog gate 2 times out of like 10. He is severely broken.

Then again I've been kinda been exhausted every time I've tried so maybe that's part of it.

Oh, does anyone know what the final boss' grab actually does? I know what the game wants me to do about it, but I've yet to actually figure out what it means.

Oh yeah, if you're doing it without spirit ashes, then you're gonna a have a rough time. The final boss is super aggressive.

The grab makes you auto-lose if it happens twice

Oh now I'm tempted to let it happen just to see it.

Probably better just to look it up.

It's pretty funny

I was flabbergasted when it happened

kevwaffles posted...

I did summon Ansbach a few times but that doubles his HP. I also tried Thollier and both of them together actually kinda rock, but he's literally only walked through the fog gate 2 times out of like 10. He is severely broken.

Thiollier was doing that for me too, I had more luck with him consistently entering the fight if I summoned Ansbach first.

UltimaterializerX posted...

The bright side is I cant WAIT for Vaatis lore video on this one. It changes everything we knew.

Didn't he already make one?

Finished the final boss. After a bunch of attempts I got sick of it and went with the greatshield approach and won my second try doing so. Fight definitely deserves the criticism it's getting, it can be a lot of fun at times, but then the boss does his lag the fuck out of the game attack or flood your screen with a billion particle effects that obscure everything and it just sucks. Camera is abysmal and the visual clutter makes it way too hard to even tell what's happening, so many times I was dying and not even sure what exactly I was doing wrong. Did I roll too early, too late, was I in hitstun and getting true combo'd, was that a multi-hit, etc? Various questions so often blocked out by screen filling flashes of light that make it impossible for me to tell exactly what happened and leaving me with pure trial and error to try to figure it out next time, which is brutal on a boss that obliterate your health so fast when things go wrong. I don't think I'll ever bother finishing a DLC playthrough ever again, I'll just stick to doing the good parts (almost everything but the final boss) and then moving on.

Gaius down. Once I figured out the trick to the start of the fight, it was generally a lot more enjoyable to figure out. I spent a lot of time fighting him along a back wall which seemed to punish his aggression. Free heal window and you can easily plan out your counter.

One thing that has helped - I've been holding onto upgrades (my great katanas were both +9, and almost always have a couple levels of scad blessing saved up) until I really hit a wall. In ER I found myself sucking against a boss, I'd go adventure elsewhere, and return only to walk all over the boss. Being able to give myself a little tune up really helps feel good about learning a fight.

Panthera posted...

Camera is abysmal

I think in the main game, the camera was mostly fine. Some issues here and there... only one boss really sticks out in my mind as being an issue (Maliketh). The DLC has too many bosses like that, too many effects, too big, too aggressive for what the camera can handle.

Panthera posted...

and went with the greatshield approach and won my second try doing so.

I've tried that a bit too and honestly it's been so long since I've used a shield I have trouble seeing a time to attack once I start.

I think the camera's fine for the most part; never had an issue with it in the base game and the only issues in Erdtree were Dancing Lion and the final boss, and the final boss I feel like was less of a camera issue and more the obnoxious light show.

Scadutree Avatar can be a bit wonky if you stay locked onto its head due to how much it moves its head during attacks, but you remedy that by staying locked on to the body and only switching to the head when you attack it.

I also regularly drop lock and switch to claw grip when fighting bosses so I can control the camera manually as needed but still run around, that helps a lot.