Current Events > 30000 upfront, or, get the skills and talent of the best Poker Player ever.

(+) Yeah! (+)

What would you choose?

I assume that says $30,000.

I'll take the skills. Might be a small grind, but I can make MUCH more that that hustling tourists in Atlantic City every few weekends

I hate poker and if you keep winning someone will probably kill you.

I'll take the skills tbh.

You'd have to make it 30,000,000 before I'd consider the money.

LeoRavus posted...

I hate poker and if you keep winning someone will probably kill you.

If you have the powers mentioned by the TC you would be wise to only use them every so often and in different cities. You could make a very comfortable living doing so.

LeoRavus posted...

I hate poker and if you keep winning someone will probably kill you.

Why? If you play in organized games sanctioned by the WSOP, and win the money legit, you just (at worse) become a famous poker player

bigblu89 posted...

Why? If you play in organized games sanctioned by the WSOP, and win the money legit, you just (at worse) become a famous poker player

I wouldn't want to be famous.

bigblu89 posted...

Why? If you play in organized games sanctioned by the WSOP, and win the money legit, you just (at worse) become a famous poker player

Fr. Its not like someone with this power would be playing in an underground poker tournament. Just work your way up in Vegas.

LeoRavus posted...

I wouldn't want to be famous.

Famous but only in the circle of the game.

Poker isnt what it was 15 years ago, where the best players became household names for a few years. Youll be well know within the gaming circles, and thats only if you play in the big tournaments.

If you bounce around casinos playing in the weekday tournaments where the prizes are 5 grand, no one will have any idea who you are.

You can easily make a nice mid 6 figure salary playing in $1-5 thousand buy in tournaments every week.

This topic is showing my ignorance, I don't even know how to play Poker but doesn't that game involve alot of baiting or something like that? That can be a very useful skill in other aspects of your life

MrFingers07 posted...

This topic is showing my ignorance, I don't even know how to play Poker but doesn't that game involve alot of baiting or something like that? That can be a very useful skill in other aspects of your life

Yeah, bluffing is a huge part of the game. Its why so many of the pros wear sunglasses and hoodies at the table. Theres a very significant psychological aspect to the game.

LonelyStoner posted...

Yeah, bluffing is a huge part of the game. Its why so many of the pros wear sunglasses and hoodies at the table. Theres a very significant psychological aspect to the game.

There's a reason why the greatest Anime I've -ever- seen that produced tension was Poker/Gamble-based Anime.

luigi33 posted...

There's a reason why the greatest Anime I've -ever- seen that produced tension was Poker/Gamble-based Anime.

Whats the name of this anime?

The best poker player is Usogui, so I'll take this deal.

Isn't Poker just a game of luck? I've only played computer Poker, but I'm pretty sure it's all about whoever has the better cards.

Best Poker player ability please

LeoRavus posted...

I hate poker and if you keep winning someone will probably kill you.

no that's blackjack

Poker is like roughly 80% luck, 20% skill. Sure, being skilled in poker can get you consistently a little far into tournaments, but there's also plenty of other skilled poker players out there and you really need to be lucky to get enough good hands to win tournaments.

Just give me the 30 grand.

The thirty grand

Skills, easily. Ignoring that you'd make that sort of money easy if you were to play poker, those are insanely useful skills for interacting with other people in general.

LonelyStoner posted...

Whats the name of this anime?

Kaiji

So I become @KidPoker?

Damn. Either that wasn't his full handle, or he gone

You can be a very talented content creator, but if the youtube algorithm doesn't like you then you're not going to get noticed.

ShaneMcComez posted...

Poker is like roughly 80% luck, 20% skill. Sure, being skilled in poker can get you consistently a little far into tournaments, but there's also plenty of other skilled poker players out there and you really need to be lucky to get enough good hands to win tournaments.

Just give me the 30 grand.

If you have the skills and talent of the best poker player ever, you can play in low level tournaments that the best of the best don't even bother playing in. You'd be playing against "weekend warrior" players and none of the big players you see on TV.

You can easily make 30 grand a month doing that.

And you probably have the Luck/Skill percentages reversed.

Why would anyone in their right mind take 30k? In the world of professional poker that's literal change. Even if you don't like Poker (I'm more of a Blackjack lover myself), you can earn more than 30k in a single night.

Ivany2008 posted...

Why would anyone in their right mind take 30k? In the world of professional poker that's literal change. Even if you don't like Poker (I'm more of a Blackjack lover myself), you can earn more than 30k in a single night.

People are lazy

30k

poker is a luck based game so there are no skills/talent to gain

bigblu89 posted...

People are lazy

And I'm lazier than all of them combined. I once left on Ron Polpeil infomercials because I was too lazy to bend over and change the channel, or get up, and this was over the course of 4 hours. It's still a manner of principle. You earn enough to live off of and then invest the rest.

MagiMarthKoopa posted...

30k

poker is a luck based game so there are no skills/talent to gain

This couldnt be further from the truth.

Do you think its a coincidence that the same guys are playing in the final weekend of the WS of Poker every year? Of the thousands that enter? Are they just the 40 luckiest guys in the world?

30k please

Poker may not be 100% luck, but luck definitely plays a role too and it's no trivial role.

Maybe I'm just stupid here but if what you guys are saying is correct that Poker is just 80% luck, then wouldn't you want to have that sort of luck on your side

I think people seem to forget that your not just getting Poker skills. Your getting the skills and abilities of the best Poker player ever. Ergo, bluffing, knowing when people are bullshitting you, keeping a straight face when your lying, card counting, being able to see things most people wouldn't, etc. A lot of which can be transferred into other fields.

Hell, many jobs these days will accept WoW guild leader as a viable skill these days because it shows leadership, problem solving etc. By gaining the skills and abilities of the best Poker player ever, your essentially turning into Monk from the tv show Monk.

Ivany2008 posted...

I think people seem to forget that your not just getting Poker skills. Your getting the skills and abilities of the best Poker player ever. Ergo, bluffing, knowing when people are bullshitting you, keeping a straight face when your lying, card counting, being able to see things most people wouldn't, etc. A lot of which can be transferred into other fields.

Hell, many jobs these days will accept WoW guild leader as a viable skill these days because it shows leadership, problem solving etc. By gaining the skills and abilities of the best Poker player ever, your essentially turning into Monk from the tv show Monk.

I think people were just blinded by the "$30k to do nothing" option and went with that.

Ivany2008 posted...

I think people seem to forget that your not just getting Poker skills. Your getting the skills and abilities of the best Poker player ever. Ergo, bluffing, knowing when people are bullshitting you, keeping a straight face when your lying, card counting, being able to see things most people wouldn't, etc. A lot of which can be transferred into other fields.

Hell, many jobs these days will accept WoW guild leader as a viable skill these days because it shows leadership, problem solving etc. By gaining the skills and abilities of the best Poker player ever, your essentially turning into Monk from the tv show Monk.

We aren't forgetting that, we just don't think it's worth it as the skills being associated to it is being romanticized a bit. Skill plays a factor in poker but so does luck. Being able to read people in a specific game doesn't mean it will translate to unrelated professions. Even the lying thing, lying is not a top notch skill..... and the skill at lying in a specific subject doesnt mean you can take that to any profession. In fact, it's entirely useless in my career and many other careers.

Like this idea that you can take poker talents and the no money average joe can go easily become rich off that is not some surefire or easy thing. Regardless if you work hard. Employers generally aren't jumping at the chance to employ some rando who can play poker well who has no particular skills that pertain to the specific profession and whatever poker skills they do have do not automatically translate well to the job they are seeking applicants for.

pick poker; stream poker

LightningThief posted...

We aren't forgetting that, we just don't think it's worth it as the skills being associated to it is being romanticized a bit. Skill plays a factor in poker but so does luck. Being able to read people in a specific game doesn't mean it will translate to unrelated professions. Even the lying thing, lying is not a top notch skill..... and the skill at lying in a specific subject doesnt mean you can take that to any profession. In fact, it's entirely useless in my career and many other careers.

Like this idea that you can take poker talents and the no money average joe can go easily become rich off that is not some surefire or easy thing. Regardless if you work hard. Employers generally aren't jumping at the chance to employ some rando who can play poker well who has no particular skills that pertain to the specific profession and whatever poker skills they do have do not automatically translate well to the job they are seeking applicants for.

You can literally make more than $30k in Atlantic City in a month, bouncing around from casino to casino, playing low-level $500 buy-in tournaments.

You don't even have to worry about bringing it into the "real life".

So, like I said, I think people were just blinded by the "$30k to do nothing" option and went with that.

Skills and Talent of the best Poker Player ever, for sure.

Id rather just have the money. The skill and talent is being able to read others, and hide your emotions, and Im not really looking to spend hours and hours or days and days at tournaments. Taking the lazy route with this one.

bigblu89 posted...

You can literally make more than $30k in Atlantic City in a month, bouncing around from casino to casino, playing low-level $500 buy-in tournaments.

You don't even have to worry about bringing it into the "real life".

So, like I said, I think people were just blinded by the "$30k to do nothing" option and went with that.

Like I said, romanticized it.

Your proposal assumes a lot of details that are not remotely a guaranteed.b including the idea that average person who barely makes 50k ayear will have enough to uproot their life and somehow be able to be at poker tables to make 30k a week.

Ya, I do have to worry about bringing it into real life. As there's more things to consider than just the romanticized idea that I'm guaranteed success just because I can play poker the best.

If the gamble is worth it to you, that's all fine and good. But no, not everyone is being "blinded by the 30k" for not choosing it.

LeoRavus posted...

I hate poker and if you keep winning someone will probably kill you.

Its not a magic "I win" button.

It is the skills and talent of the best poker player ever, who is still abiding by the laws of physics and non-magical human brains normally, and whose prowess can be safely diminished by merely shuffling 2 or 3 decks together to mitigate the card counting aspect.

Heck, the main abilities might really just be that you have incredible acting and an invincible poker face, along with just being able to easily calculate whatever math is necessary to determine whether to push or fold each round, and such.

This is not anime level stuff that will cause an anime like response where a secret anime organization decides you need to be anime assassinated now for winning at a card game.

Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted...

Heck, the main abilities might really just be that you have incredible acting and an invincible poker face, along with just being able to easily calculate whatever math is necessary to determine whether to push or fold each round, and such.

That's exactly it. While the cards you get obviously matter, what's much more important is the ability to act and to read your opponents. If we're talking a world class poker player, that means you're outstanding at reading people and can put on basically whatever air you want, you're great at bluffing.

Those are great skills to have for pretty much anything where you interact with other people.

Poker skills ez$

LightningThief posted...

Like I said, romanticized it.

Your proposal assumes a lot of details that are not remotely a guaranteed.b including the idea that average person who barely makes 50k ayear will have enough to uproot their life and somehow be able to be at poker tables to make 30k a week.

Maybe I was blinded by the fact that I could leave my house and be in Atlantic City in 2.5 hours, but Online Poker is a thing.

Assuming its legal in your state, you can play poker for money on your phone.

What if I'm already the best poker player ever?

Poker skills.

I gave it a little more thought. I think I'd still take the 30k.

Sure you'd definitely make a lot more money in the long run as a professional poker competing in all sorts of tournaments, but poker is so boring. It would be one of the most boring jobs ever sitting all day long playing hand after hand and counting cards. It just doesn't seem exciting at all, and I don't know how many hundreds of hours, maybe thousands, you have to sink in before you become a multi millionaire and can retire to live the rich lifestyle.

I think I'd rather be the top professional Esport StarCraft player, even if it means I might have to move to South Korea to compete for big money prizes. At least I'd find some enjoyment coming up with different ways of beating my opponent.