Board 8 > Community Mafia Topic 10 - Night Kill School

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My best cop game is probably when Han was the actual cop and I was vanilla.

The other one I can think of scum shot my target n1 and me n2 lmao.

why didn't ulti scan blade btw

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Since he's ignoring the mass

changmas posted...

why didn't ulti scan blade btw

Ulti came into the day intending to mislynch me. Claiming a scan on me doesn't work.

Kirby321 posted...

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Claim or die.

How scary. Play better.

You said you don't think Ben is scum? If true you already got info out that should not get out once today. What do you actually need it for beyond greedy sake of completion?

PunishedBen posted...

I thought he was town so much that I convinced you not to target him night 2 lol

Ugh maybe but we practically town cleared everyone N2 except for Corrik and look how that turned out >_>

Maybe I'm just salty because Corrik really blundered big time.

But hey, I just had a thought. Ben, did you think there was any possibility you blocked the kill N1?

I dont even remember where I was with Red since I got sidewiped by Kirby, but I'm pretty sure I didnt talk about this, so -

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Red, what does Peaf's argument have to do with me?

I dont like this post because he jumps on me with Blade but not for the same reason as Blade

Kirby how can Ben block a kill

Kirby321 posted...

Ugh maybe but we practically town cleared everyone N2 except for Corrik and look how that turned out >_>

Maybe I'm just salty because Corrik really blundered big time.

But hey, I just had a thought. Ben, did you think there was any possibility you blocked the kill N1?

Not enough to ever say it out loud, but yes a man can dream that post game he learns he was a night 1 target.

But I'm pretty sure you blocked the kill sinze Wallz was a super ninja. And you said you blocked Wallz because of me, so maybe I did help stop the kill anyway!

oh as bulletproof nevermind ignore me

i am stupid

ctesjbuvf posted...

How scary. Play better.

You said you don't think Ben is scum? If true you already got info out that should not get out once today. What do you actually need it for beyond greedy sake of completion?

You have no reason to be so hostile in a game state where everybody has claimed except you, FD, and Red. A good chunk of town power has already been outed. What does "greedy sake of completion" even mean? It's a massclaim ffs.

Honestly though this is a kind of funny game of chicken between Ulti and I.

He can't mislynch me or people will immediately question why he's not dead tomorrow. The sooner he kills me at night, the sooner people question why he's not dead. He also can't risk killing Kirby, because I might stop the kill.

Though Ulti will almost certainly be sending the kills now, so Kirby cannot catch him doing it because he'll just claim he was saved instead.

Okay first of all you were the one being hostile

let's try positive reinforcement with ctes.

ctes, i would love it if you chose to claim today

Ctes is town because of the Wallz interactions, but I am okay with everyone massing today.

You mean you're claiming to scan someone who isn't actually townread by people this time got it

ctesjbuvf posted...

Okay first of all you were the one being hostile

Fair enough.

Okay, I think every player claiming right now is in our best interests, especially with a dead scum roleblocker and some super bizarre kills coming from scum.

I would like for you to claim, and I found it alarming when you initially refused to claim for "greedy completion" which was an extremely vague reason not to claim. Thus, I got suspicious of you and demanded that you claim or die.

Will you reconsider? Or at least elaborate on why you think the massclaim is a bad idea when over half of the players have already thrown out a claim?

Ctes and Death were great scans (Well, Ctes was for night 1, would have been less so day 2). And apparently the Sbell attraction runs deep because I dont think I convinced Mzero to not target Sbell last night lol

Yes, we got a handful claims that did what exactly, narrowed down where scum will now shoot? Then you made absolutely certain one of them if town will never be shot while that would be a good thing. Good job.

Greedy sake of completion means that you it just because you decided now you want every single claim and not because there is any use in me claiming in itself. You can't use "it's a massclaim" as an argument, I never said I thought that was a good idea.

I think Mzero stuck to Sbell because he made a post at the end of day 2 saying he would scan Sbell, and wanted to stick to it. >_>

If he didnt scan Sbell then yay, I convinced him. But he didnt say he was changing it

UltimaterializerX posted...

Did IGCD claim?

Yes sir

is it a day-vig shot or has to be a night igcd?

TotallyNotMI posted...

is it a day-vig shot or has to be a night igcd?

What the **** is this fishing

*taunt Sbell

MZero posted...

Suspicious as he may be, I implore you to not just stall the rest of the day on Corrik. Be sure to consider other options, like Peaf. Even though he didn't want the day to stall on Corrik either and proposed Red as his biggest scumread, he didn't even push him when he had votes. Look, the Corrik works in mysterious ways, and sometimes you just have to accept that's how he is, kind of like Lopen. Lynching town for playing the same way they always do is how town loses games.

Kirby321 posted...

I'm Jailer.
Blade is Doctor.
And you're apparently Bulletproof.

That feels like a lot of protection for town.

I keep referring back to the game where scum Marth won in final 3 vs Ulti and sbell. I was in your position then and too trusting of the scum that made a protection claim. There is no need to make the same mistake again.

Gonna have to check in on everything after page 5 later tonight.

Meow1000 posted...

What the **** is this fishing

Trying to figure out if we can confirm IGCD kills who he said he kills or if he can just claim a night kill

Like I have IGCD as town because of his claim and no other town killing roles but he hasn't exactly seemed like town based on claim

also how would that even be advantageous for scum to know?

If IGCD is town, after he gets his shot they can't block him at night so they can't prevent the kill no matter what

I'm just wondering what we'll get to see as confirmation

It is 19 players. That doesn't even feel like a lot of protection imo

Yes well, sorry if I came off hostile as well.

I fully believe that me giving out my claim at current state of the game is more beneficial to scum than town. I reconsider to some degree whenever it's brought up, but I do think giving scum information does worse than giving town information does good from me. I would prefer to not elaborate.

TotallyNotMI posted...

also how would that even be advantageous for scum to know?

If IGCD is town, after he gets his shot they can't block him at night so they can't prevent the kill no matter what

I'm just wondering what we'll get to see as confirmation

If he says he gets it during the day he just gets shot at night and we're stuck in the same standoff between Ulti and I.

Asking when he gets to fire the shot is basically asking him whether scum needs to kill him or not tonight.

TotallyNotMI posted...

also how would that even be advantageous for scum to know?

If IGCD is town, after he gets his shot they can't block him at night so they can't prevent the kill no matter what

I'm just wondering what we'll get to see as confirmation

Igcd isn't gambitting hammerer as scum.

Honestly it doesn't matter.

I still dont necessarily trust its not 3rd party shenanigans but it isn't a tree worth barking up now.

I suppose. If it could be fired at day I'd assume it could also be fired at night and scum would be in the same position of not being able to stop it.

So I guess it's best for it to not be known. I'll rescind my question and just hope that when he gets it it'll be clear that it wasn't a scum kill.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Yes, we got a handful claims that did what exactly, narrowed down where scum will now shoot? Then you made absolutely certain one of them if town will never be shot while that would be a good thing. Good job.

Greedy sake of completion means that you it just because you decided now you want every single claim and not because there is any use in me claiming in itself. You can't use "it's a massclaim" as an argument, I never said I thought that was a good idea.

Thank you for the explanation.

So here's the thing. I'm being a bit selfish here. Scum has kept me alive for whatever reason. I'm trying to suss out whether scum is going to try fakeclaiming vanilla or power to dissuade me from roleblocking them.

By getting a full picture of what the setup seems to be, I can make that judgement with a bit more accuracy.

We've also had three nights of information to collect from. I believe now is the time to reveal that info before scum silences those roles like they did with SBell. I'll admit that opening the game up like this is making it easier for scum to choose their nightkills, as opposed to the blind shooting they've had to do so far with a Role Cop gone D1. But I think we stand to lose a lot more from town not full claiming right now.

... But also, I want to reveal who I jailed last night and can't do that until everybody claims >_>

PunishedBen posted...

It is 19 players. That doesn't even feel like a lot of protection imo

For the record when Kirby claimed It was impossible for Corrik to be anything he was claiming he was in my eyes just due to setup meta.

Kirby's claim reopened the possibility that I could've been blocked without my knowledge but simultaneously made it extremely unlikely due to balance.

It is not to say I will never claim, but I think there is a sweet spot between nothing and mass. Mass has its benefits but also almost always outs some stuff that shouldn't be, I would much rather leave scum wondering about me right now than tell then what I am.

red i would love for you to claim for us <3

I think I'm ok with Ctes not claiming today.

Kirby321 posted...

Scum has kept me alive for whatever reason.

You have been my best guess of night kill the past two nights as well, but my best guess is watcher fear.

ctesjbuvf posted...

It is not to say I will never claim, but I think there is a sweet spot between nothing and mass. Mass has its benefits but also almost always outs some stuff that shouldn't be, I would much rather leave scum wondering about me right now than tell then what I am.

You know what
Fair enough

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Claim or die
... Please?

ctesjbuvf posted...

You have been my best guess of night kill the past two nights as well, but my best guess is watcher fear.

*looks at SBell*
... Well shit.

I hope I get lucky with roleblocking the killing scum tonight >_>
Otherwise, it was nice knowing you guys o7

changmas posted...

red i would love for you to claim for us <3

Vanilla

I must admit I am very curious for what reasoning Ulti has conjured up to completely ignore Peaf so far today.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Im a sucker for people being nice to me, plus I went back and checked the game I thought he was scum in and he was town.

Peaf has been a raging dick in this game since you said he's been acting too nice.

Yeah we have way too many vanillas

If FD claims vanilla we have a problem

FD pretty blatantly hinted not-vanilla a long time ago.