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bigblu89 05/03/24 12:02:18 PM #101:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Im not. In the least. Just because you can explain one side without showing prejudice doesnt mean you support that side. People in here, that I assume didnt read the article, jumped to the conclusion that the union was suing because they made the rule. The union is suing because they werent allowed to negotiate what the punishment was. Thats it. No bias from me saying they should win the suit. No bias from me either way. I dont know a single NYPD officer to care how they get punished. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:980219938] in NYPD union... [t:80759975]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Im not. In the least. Just because you can explain one side without showing prejudice doesnt mean you support that side. People in here, that I assume didnt read the article, jumped to the conclusion that the union was suing because they made the rule. The union is suing because they werent allowed to negotiate what the punishment was. Thats it. No bias from me saying they should win the suit. No bias from me either way. I dont know a single NYPD officer to care how they get punished. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 05/03/24 1:17:02 PM #103:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I'm not even taking them at their word. I'm literally just repeating what is in the article for the people that seem to refuse to read it, despite it being posted in full twice in this thread. What the union does after then win (or lose) the suit is a different story. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:980221013] in NYPD union... [t:80759975]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I'm not even taking them at their word. I'm literally just repeating what is in the article for the people that seem to refuse to read it, despite it being posted in full twice in this thread.What the union does after then win (or lose) the suit is a different story. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 05/03/24 1:39:50 PM #105:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Quote me and tell me where I said they were being honest. All I was doing is parroting the information from the article, which states: The PBAs lawsuit alleges the new protocol is illegal because it unilaterally revokes the 2011 standard without bargaining. The union says it is not challenging the prohibition on illegal steroid use. That reads to me like, as of right now, they are not challenging the prohibition of illegal steroid use, they are challenging what the punishment should be. I'm literally just repeating what's in the article. Everyone is within their rights to read through the lines and make their own judgements, but I'm just parroting what the article stated, because people seemed to have skipped it. Its not about taking sides, its literally about reading comprehension, and how many CE users seem to not have it --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:980221356] in NYPD union... [t:80759975]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Quote me and tell me where I said they were being honest. All I was doing is parroting the information from the article, which states:<quote>The PBAs lawsuit alleges the new protocol is illegal because it unilaterally revokes the 2011 standard without bargaining. The union says it is not challenging the prohibition on illegal steroid use.</quote>That reads to me like, as of right now, they are not challenging the prohibition of illegal steroid use, they are challenging what the punishment should be.I'm literally just repeating what's in the article. Everyone is within their rights to read through the lines and make their own judgements, but I'm just parroting what the article stated, because people seemed to have skipped it.Its not about taking sides, its literally about reading comprehension, and how many CE users seem to not have it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 05/03/24 2:07:01 PM #107:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Your mind is already made up, so nothing I say after this will change anything. So Im going to cut it here. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:980221746] in NYPD union... [t:80759975]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Your mind is already made up, so nothing I say after this will change anything. So Im going to cut it here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 05/03/24 2:29:16 PM #109:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] You got me. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:980222078] in NYPD union... [t:80759975]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> You got me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 05/03/24 2:53:03 PM #111:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Youre right --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:980222429] in NYPD union... [t:80759975]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Youre right </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 05/03/24 3:48:11 PM #112:	The last thing the police need are drugs known for increasing irritability, anxiety, and aggression. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:980223262] in NYPD union... [t:80759975]...</cite> <quote>The last thing the police need are drugs known for increasing irritability, anxiety, and aggression. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 05/03/24 8:07:54 PM #113:	bigblu89 posted... The union is suing because they werent allowed to negotiate what the punishment was. And they shouldn't be. Fuck them. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:980227000] in NYPD union... [t:80759975]...</cite> <quote>bigblu89 posted... </cite><quote>The union is suing because they werent allowed to negotiate what the punishment was.</quote>And they shouldn't be. Fuck them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LonelyStoner 05/03/24 8:09:38 PM #114:	Police unions are a joke and need to be banned. --- He's all alone through the day and night. <cite>LonelyStoner posted [p:980227027] in NYPD union... [t:80759975]...</cite> <quote>Police unions are a joke and need to be banned. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 05/03/24 8:10:37 PM #115:	DarkChozoGhost posted... And they shouldn't be. Fuck them. yeah the government should just decide what unions are subject to thus undermining the entire point of unions --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:980227038] in NYPD union... [t:80759975]...</cite> <quote>DarkChozoGhost posted... </cite><quote>And they shouldn't be. Fuck them.</quote>yeah the government should just decide what unions are subject tothus undermining the entire point of unions </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LonelyStoner 05/03/24 8:12:36 PM #116:	thronedfire2 posted... yeah the government should just decide what unions are subject to thus undermining the entire point of unions Police unions undermine the entire point of unions. --- He's all alone through the day and night. <cite>LonelyStoner posted [p:980227070] in NYPD union... [t:80759975]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted... </cite><quote>yeah the government should just decide what unions are subject tothus undermining the entire point of unions</quote>Police unions undermine the entire point of unions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 05/04/24 3:15:03 AM #117:	Antifar posted... Cops are not members of the labor movement. Their unions are not good And no one should ever forget that they've played an active role in suppressing the labor movement on and off throughout the last century. Tyranthraxus posted... You mean medical necessity? because I've never heard of recreational steroids before ...really? Tyranthraxus posted... Bulking up is a legitimate medical use of steroids. It's not accepted in athletic associations but sports rules aren't the same thing as medical rules. There is next to zero reason for a cop to be on steroids without an injury indicating it. There's only one real reason a cop wants to roid up. And only one real reason why cops would oppose a policy that would require submitting a prescription. You should know better. Tyranthraxus posted... Just arrest them and charge them with unlawful possession of a schedule 3 controlled substance the same as you would any other criminal. Feels like wishful thinking. bigblu89 posted... You cant be arrested for failing a drug test at your job. If you're a cop using controlled substances... maybe you should be? --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:980231362] in NYPD union... [t:80759975]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted... </cite><quote>Cops are not members of the labor movement. Their unions are not good</quote>And no one should ever forget that they've played an active role in suppressing the labor movement on and off throughout the last century.Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>You mean medical necessity? because I've never heard of recreational steroids before</quote>...really?Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Bulking up is a legitimate medical use of steroids. It's not accepted in athletic associations but sports rules aren't the same thing as medical rules.</quote>There is next to zero reason for a cop to be on steroids without an injury indicating it.There's only one real reason a cop wants to roid up. And only one real reason why cops would oppose a policy that would require submitting a prescription. You should know better.Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Just arrest them and charge them with unlawful possession of a schedule 3 controlled substance the same as you would any other criminal.</quote>Feels like wishful thinking.bigblu89 posted... </cite><quote>You cant be arrested for failing a drug test at your job.</quote>If you're a cop using controlled substances... maybe you should be? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 05/04/24 3:15:16 AM #118:	thronedfire2 posted... thus undermining the entire point of unions Police unions undermine the entire point of unions. Their union just operates on a fundamentally different premise than any other labor union in the country. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:980231363] in NYPD union... [t:80759975]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted... </cite><quote>thus undermining the entire point of unions</quote>Police unions undermine the entire point of unions. Their union just operates on a fundamentally different premise than any other labor union in the country. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 05/04/24 10:19:19 AM #119:	DnDer posted... If you're a cop using controlled substances... maybe you should be? For real, is bigblu really arguing that cops, those allegedly charged with upholding and enforcing the law, shouldn't be arrested if they were to piss hot for say heroin? --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:980233796] in NYPD union... [t:80759975]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>If you're a cop using controlled substances... maybe you should be?</quote>For real, is bigblu really arguing that cops, those allegedly charged with upholding and enforcing the law, shouldn't be arrested if they were to piss hot for say heroin? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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