Board 8 > Best Pokemon Generation by Type, DAY 11: Gen 1 Water vs. Gen 8 Poison

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Inviso 04/26/24 5:23:59 PM #1:	Which of these two Pokemon generation rosters is better? - Results (40 votes) 11. Gen I: Water (Blastoise, Golduck, Poliwrath, Tentacruel, Slowbro, Dewgong, Cloyster, Kingler, Seadra, Seaking, Starmie, Gyarados, Lapras, Vaporeon, Omastar, Kabutops) 80% (32 votes) 32 22. Gen VIII: Poison (G-Slowbro, G-Weezing, G-Slowking, H-Qwilfish, H-Sneasel, Toxel, Toxtricity, Eternatus, Sneasler, Overqwil) 20% (8 votes) 8 I've done this style of poll contest once before, back in either Gen VII or Gen VIII, so why not try it again now? The rules are simple: each day, I'm going to post a poll for a given Pokemon typing, with each generation's roster of new Pokemon filling in that typing. You just need to look at what each generation had to offer, and select which generation you think brought the best new roster (for any reason; you could say that a single Pokemon was so good that it overwhelms everything else the generation spawned, or you could select a generation that may be more well-rounded that the one that created your personal favorite). At the end of the day, one generation will be crowned a champion (with potential tiebreakers if need be), and that generation will advance to a second round, where the eighteen winners, and fourteen strongest runner-ups will be sorted into a 32-entrant tournament to crown which generation produced the best overall roster of a single typing. The tournament has now begun. The discussion topic is here: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80744044 and the bracket is here: https://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=478370 Today's match features Gen I Water, which is so abundant that I couldn't even fit the word "line" alongside most of the Pokemon listed. It will be facing off against the first of two Gen VIII wild cards to make the field, this time with Gen VIII Poison. Poison didn't have a strong showing in its first appearance in the tournament, so we'll have to see if the underdog can dethrone Gen I for the second day in a row. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:980110237] in Best Pokem... [t:80756352]...</cite> <quote> Which of these two Pokemon generation rosters is better? - Results (40 votes) 11. Gen I: Water (Blastoise, Golduck, Poliwrath, Tentacruel, Slowbro, Dewgong, Cloyster, Kingler, Seadra, Seaking, Starmie, Gyarados, Lapras, Vaporeon, Omastar, Kabutops) 80% (32 votes) 32 22. Gen VIII: Poison (G-Slowbro, G-Weezing, G-Slowking, H-Qwilfish, H-Sneasel, Toxel, Toxtricity, Eternatus, Sneasler, Overqwil) 20% (8 votes) 8 Show Voting Form I've done this style of poll contest once before, back in either Gen VII or Gen VIII, so why not try it again now? The rules are simple: each day, I'm going to post a poll for a given Pokemon typing, with each generation's roster of new Pokemon filling in that typing. You just need to look at what each generation had to offer, and select which generation you think brought the best new roster (for any reason; you could say that a single Pokemon was so good that it overwhelms everything else the generation spawned, or you could select a generation that may be more well-rounded that the one that created your personal favorite). At the end of the day, one generation will be crowned a champion (with potential tiebreakers if need be), and that generation will advance to a second round, where the eighteen winners, and fourteen strongest runner-ups will be sorted into a 32-entrant tournament to crown which generation produced the best overall roster of a single typing.The tournament has now begun. The discussion topic is here: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80744044 and the bracket is here: https://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=478370Today's match features Gen I Water, which is so abundant that I couldn't even fit the word "line" alongside most of the Pokemon listed. It will be facing off against the first of two Gen VIII wild cards to make the field, this time with Gen VIII Poison. Poison didn't have a strong showing in its first appearance in the tournament, so we'll have to see if the underdog can dethrone Gen I for the second day in a row. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GenesisSaga 04/26/24 5:24:45 PM #2:	Easy I dub --- That girl is poison... Never trust a big butt and smile :> <cite>GenesisSaga posted [p:980110247] in Best Pokem... [t:80756352]...</cite> <quote>Easy I dub </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UF8 04/26/24 5:26:07 PM #3:	gen 8 poison was maybe in the running for my least favourite possible type-gen combinations even before the tournament phase so <cite>UF8 posted [p:980110267] in Best Pokem... [t:80756352]...</cite> <quote>gen 8 poison was maybe in the running for my least favourite possible type-gen combinations even before the tournament phase so</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sheep007 04/26/24 5:55:51 PM #4:	Gen 1 water is meh but Gen 8 Poison is actively bad aside from like, Toxtricity. Easy choice. --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. <cite>Sheep007 posted [p:980110676] in Best Pokem... [t:80756352]...</cite> <quote>Gen 1 water is meh but Gen 8 Poison is actively bad aside from like, Toxtricity. Easy choice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OrangeCrush980 04/26/24 6:08:51 PM #5:	Ew, how did Gen 8 Poison even get here again? --- "Foolishness, Dante. Foolishness... Might controls everything. And without strength, you cannot protect anything. Let alone yourself." - Vergil, DMC3 <cite>OrangeCrush980 posted [p:980110872] in Best Pokem... [t:80756352]...</cite> <quote>Ew, how did Gen 8 Poison even get here again? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 04/26/24 6:09:16 PM #6:	Toxel is the only bad Pokemon for Gen VIII's poison roster, and it's easily one of the best typings Gen VIII has going for it. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:980110874] in Best Pokem... [t:80756352]...</cite> <quote>Toxel is the only bad Pokemon for Gen VIII's poison roster, and it's easily one of the best typings Gen VIII has going for it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UF8 04/26/24 6:11:20 PM #7:	if we ignore all the gross galarian variants and sneasler and arguably overqwil sure <cite>UF8 posted [p:980110905] in Best Pokem... [t:80756352]...</cite> <quote>if we ignore all the gross galarian variants and sneasler and arguably overqwil sure</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andylt 04/26/24 6:13:08 PM #8:	UF8 posted... if we ignore all the gross galarian variants and sneasler and arguably overqwil sure I think the Galarian variants are the best thing in gen 8's roster here! <cite>andylt posted [p:980110925] in Best Pokem... [t:80756352]...</cite> <quote>UF8 posted... </cite><quote>if we ignore all the gross galarian variants and sneasler and arguably overqwil sure</quote>I think the Galarian variants are the best thing in gen 8's roster here!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 04/26/24 6:13:38 PM #9:	Galarian Slowbro is better than the original, Hisuian Qwilfish and Overqwil are WAY better than the original. Hisuian Sneasel and Sneasler, while not better than the original duo, are still awesome in their own rights. Galarian Weezing is a hilarious take on Weezing and makes it stand out more. And then Toxtricity and Eternatus are just badass. Galarian Slowking is a step down, but it's still pretty good. And then Toxel's just...yeah. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:980110928] in Best Pokem... [t:80756352]...</cite> <quote>Galarian Slowbro is better than the original, Hisuian Qwilfish and Overqwil are WAY better than the original. Hisuian Sneasel and Sneasler, while not better than the original duo, are still awesome in their own rights. Galarian Weezing is a hilarious take on Weezing and makes it stand out more. And then Toxtricity and Eternatus are just badass.Galarian Slowking is a step down, but it's still pretty good. And then Toxel's just...yeah. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skulltrumpets 04/26/24 9:51:13 PM #10:	Seeing the gen 8 slander making me feel bad for voting gen 1. But the Seel line is the only one that is worse than "that's pretty okay I guess" tier, though idk if I'd like the Goldeen and Krabby lines so much if I didn't like fish and crabs so much... <cite>skulltrumpets posted [p:980114671] in Best Pokem... [t:80756352]...</cite> <quote>Seeing the gen 8 slander making me feel bad for voting gen 1. But the Seel line is the only one that is worse than "that's pretty okay I guess" tier, though idk if I'd like the Goldeen and Krabby lines so much if I didn't like fish and crabs so much... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 04/27/24 6:01:50 AM #11:	Morning bump. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever http://i.imgur.com/SSw6M9E.gif <cite>Espeon posted [p:980118707] in Best Pokem... [t:80756352]...</cite> <quote>Morning bump. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 04/27/24 9:50:51 AM #12:	Late morning bump. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever http://i.imgur.com/SSw6M9E.gif <cite>Espeon posted [p:980120308] in Best Pokem... [t:80756352]...</cite> <quote>Late morning bump. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GenesisSaga 04/27/24 9:55:00 AM #13:	andylt posted... I think the Galarian variants are the best thing in gen 8's roster here! Going to have to agree with this, but that's a point against the roster, not a point in favor of it! When the best thing you've got going on is variants on pokmon that already exist you've got to make MARKED improvements on them to justify their inclusions, and most of these regional formes are more lateral movements than improvements. Here's how I'd break it down: Improvements: Claw hammer Slowbro- actually has a bit more going for it over Kanto original. Galarian Forme is the best thing to happen to Slowbro lest we forget the nightmare that is its mega evolution (let's do just that) Gentleman Weezing- I mean how could you know love this smokestack top hat guy? ... ... And that's it. Qwilfish and Sneasel are pallet- and type-swaps of the original versions so unless they play WAY different than their Johto originals (which I imagine they'd have to at least play a tad different with the typing changes, but I've never played Legends Arceus so I lack the first hand experience to determine that for myself) these are just lateral moves. No updates or marked improvements to their appearances, barely even a physical change at all other than what was made with a paintbrush, and frankly I prefer the originals. Also Weavile is way cooler than Sneasler don't @ me on that- you're just wasting your time. Overqwil is a cool name. That's the best I can give it. Shadow Cloak Slowking is a marked STEP DOWN from the glory that is the original King and that makes me sad. I want to like it so much, but I just don't vibe with this goober at all. Taking all that into account, all you're left with is an Arceus-forsaken baby, the most Ultra Beast looking ass thing that is not (yet confirmed to be) an UB, and Toxtricity who, is honestly kind of cool, but can't carry all the weight of the entire generation almost entirely by itself. Just... not a good roster as a whole. Naw Gen I got this hands down and I'm not even an original game/generation loyalist. FYI the first game I played and beat was Crystal and my favorite game is Black. I'm usually pretty quick to call the first generation's pokmon kinda lackluster, but with certain typings (e.g. Water, Fire, and Bug among a few others) simplicity is best. --- That girl is poison... Never trust a big butt and smile :> <cite>GenesisSaga posted [p:980120356] in Best Pokem... [t:80756352]...</cite> <quote>andylt posted...</cite><quote>I think the Galarian variants are the best thing in gen 8's roster here!</quote>Going to have to agree with this, but that's a point against the roster, not a point in favor of it! When the best thing you've got going on is variants on pokmon that already exist you've got to make MARKED improvements on them to justify their inclusions, and most of these regional formes are more lateral movements than improvements. Here's how I'd break it down: Improvements: Claw hammer Slowbro- actually has a bit more going for it over Kanto original. Galarian Forme is the best thing to happen to Slowbro lest we forget the nightmare that is its mega evolution (let's do just that)Gentleman Weezing- I mean how could you know love this smokestack top hat guy?......And that's it.Qwilfish and Sneasel are pallet- and type-swaps of the original versions so unless they play WAY different than their Johto originals (which I imagine they'd have to at least play a tad different with the typing changes, but I've never played Legends Arceus so I lack the first hand experience to determine that for myself) these are just lateral moves. No updates or marked improvements to their appearances, barely even a physical change at all other than what was made with a paintbrush, and frankly I prefer the originals. Also Weavile is way cooler than Sneasler don't @ me on that- you're just wasting your time. Overqwil is a cool name. That's the best I can give it.Shadow Cloak Slowking is a marked STEP DOWN from the glory that is the original King and that makes me sad. I want to like it so much, but I just don't vibe with this goober at all.Taking all that into account, all you're left with is an Arceus-forsaken baby, the most Ultra Beast looking ass thing that is not (yet confirmed to be) an UB, and Toxtricity who, is honestly kind of cool, but can't carry all the weight of the entire generation almost entirely by itself. Just... not a good roster as a whole.Naw Gen I got this hands down and I'm not even an original game/generation loyalist. FYI the first game I played and beat was Crystal and my favorite game is Black. I'm usually pretty quick to call the first generation's pokmon kinda lackluster, but with certain typings (e.g. Water, Fire, and Bug among a few others) simplicity is best. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 04/28/24 8:59:41 AM #14:	Bump for a little while longer. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever http://i.imgur.com/SSw6M9E.gif <cite>Espeon posted [p:980135103] in Best Pokem... [t:80756352]...</cite> <quote>Bump for a little while longer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Board 8 > Best Pokemon Generation by Type, DAY 11: Gen 1 Water vs. Gen 8 Poison