Current Events > Y'all ready for the nostalgia cycle to hit the brown and bloom shooter era?

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People should be getting pretty nostalgic for COD 4 any day now. We'll get a bunch of "retro shooters" with gritty protagonists and realistic gameplay.

We're still in the Build Engine nostalgia phase. Meaning we still need to go through the Half Life 1/2 era nostalgia phase before we hit the brown phase

That "USA invaded" storyline in COD4 2 was pretty cool.

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I've noticed. It's thanks to your topic that I discovered quite a few I missed when I was younger and a lot of new ones as well.
Though I still need to get around to actually playing them as I still need to finish up The Fractured But Whole's DLC.

Boomer shooters kinda crashed thanks to Slipgate Ironworks and 3D Realms. They spewed out three mediocre or incomplete shooters in a short timespan late last year and early this year that got mixed to poor reception, simply because they suddenly had a change of ownership so they need to get out their current projects ASAP.

At this rate, everything we will ever have nostalgia over, we already have.

"Hey man remember Assassin's Scrolls Auto 3?"
"... No."
"Me neither, since it's literally exactly like Assassin's Scrolls Auto 1,2 and 4-492, lol"

Pass. I didnt even like that shit when it was new. Give me UT 2004 any day.

I'd love to see a remaster of UT 1 or 2004. Too bad Epic is obsessed with Fortnite now and delisted all of the Unreal games. You know, the ones that gave the Unreal engine its name?

Fenriswolf posted...

Boomer shooters kinda crashed thanks to Slipgate Ironworks and 3D Realms. They spewed out three mediocre or incomplete shooters in a short timespan late last year and early this year that got mixed to poor reception, simply because they suddenly had a change of ownership so they need to get out their current projects ASAP.

They didn't crash at all lol. Slipgate games are garbage tier, but there's so many bangers in early access right now plus Cultic chapter 2 later this year. They'll be fine.

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I'd like to blame WoW for this. This game was the catalyst for when level design became about providing a curated experience as opposed to an interactive experience. Then a few years later Uncharted came out and cranked it up to 11 giving us this whole concept of "movie games" and I don't mean FMVs.

At some point we just lost track of what we were doing. A level was just going from point A to B and had no other meaning or purpose. It was filler for the "between levels" parts which is where all the interesting things happened, you just had no control over any of it.

I think a lot of the nostalgia for boomer shooters is less about how they look and more about how they play. The gameplay is quite different than modern FPS games. The shitty 3D graphics era of games hasn't been inducing much nostalgia in general. Some people are nostalgic for classic survival horror, but again that's for how they play (not an action game and not an all you can do is run spoopy jump scare simulator).

I thought people were nostalgic for COD4 like 3 COD iterations after it released lol

Fenriswolf posted...

Boomer shooters kinda crashed thanks to Slipgate Ironworks and 3D Realms. They spewed out three mediocre or incomplete shooters in a short timespan late last year and early this year that got mixed to poor reception, simply because they suddenly had a change of ownership so they need to get out their current projects ASAP.

Go look at the steam FPS fest going on right now. Boomer shooters are still are all there is

As in a good single player shooter along the lines of Bioshock and Portal, maybe.

Tyranthraxus posted...

I'd like to blame WoW for this. This game was the catalyst for when level design became about providing a curated experience as opposed to an interactive experience. Then a few years later Uncharted came out and cranked it up to 11 giving us this whole concept of "movie games" and I don't mean FMVs.

You may want to look into this obscure PS1 game titled Metal Gear Solid.

RetuenOfDevsman posted...

You may want to look into this obscure PS1 game titled Metal Gear Solid.

Metal Gear Solid wasn't a "movie" until 4.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Metal Gear Solid wasn't a "movie" until 4.

It definitely was.

I don't know what series you were playing, but MGS1 is a two hour game if you skip the cutscenes.

Fenriswolf posted...

I'd love to see a remaster of UT 1 or 2004. Too bad Epic is obsessed with Fortnite now and delisted all of the Unreal games. You know, the ones that gave the Unreal engine its name?

Yeah. I had them on GOG and had been waiting on them to go on sale on Steam, so I was so pissed. But I bought a UT 2004 key from G2A for like $45-50, and it turned out to be a key for the Unreal Retail Bundle, so I got all the games, which is well worth that price to me.

ssjevot posted...

The shitty 3D graphics era of games hasn't been inducing much nostalgia in general.

It's not as common as nostalgia for the 2D pixel era, but there are indie games that replicate the look of PS1 and N64 titles, and there are lots of drum and bass remixes on YouTube that use early 3D graphics for their visuals:

https://youtu.be/jsd2VSZVTF8?si=DhCZOvmEFSI6_q0b

For awhile, the narrative was "3D graohics haven't aged well" and I think more and more people are coming around to missing that low poly look.

ssjevot posted...

The shitty 3D graphics era of games hasn't been inducing much nostalgia in general

We're really starting to hit this era. There's a ton of indie games that have low poly styles and a lot that even throw pixel and low resolution filters on top of them to make it look extra shitty. I would much rather they take the gameaply they liked from these kinds of games and translate that into an actual modern game. There's enough cheap engines and assets out there that anyone can toss together a half decent looking game.

That unreal engine 3 of brown and grey muddy graphics is just too ugly.

specialkid8 posted...

I would much rather they take the gameaply they liked from these kinds of games and translate that into an actual modern game.

I'm of the opposite mind: make the games look like that but update their gameplay for modern quality-of-life improvements.

I do think there's a distinction to be made between downright ugly early 3D games like Tomb Raider or Bubsy vs games like Spyro or Banjo Kazooie that still look primitive but have also aged really nicely. It's probably a first wave vs second wave thing.

Pow_Pow_Punishment posted...

update their gameplay for modern quality-of-life improvements.

I think that goes without saying. I just mean the bones of the game. You can make an RE homage with fixed cameras and tank controls but you can make it a little smoother. There's really no reason to make a game look like RE1